M. Griffiths thinks Hurd should return

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TNnative said:
Not doubting his talent. I think everyone questions his heart, or more specifically, how the "leadership" of those in his family has effected it.

Not surprising one of the Sports 180 hosts are stirring this up. All they seem to do anymore is dump steaming manure in a crowded area, and see how people react for giggles.
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That's all anyone does anymore. The entire political process, media, and discussing anything online (see flat-earth morons movement) has devolved to this.
 

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n_huffhines said:
Utah's RB walked out on his team 2-3 years ago...the coaches asked him to come back last year and he dominated the PAC 12.
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I think he was only gone a few months and he left on mutual terms. Worried about his health and wanted to focus on his degree, plus he was burnt out with football if I remember correctly. The absence did wonders for him though.
 
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Who's to say he couldn't come back and be everything we always wanted from him?

Who's to say that he could come back and poison 121 too?

Either could happen.

He is talented enough to recover from the mistakes he has made so far.

121 is talented enough to allow him to leave.

Turn the page.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Who's to say he couldn't come back and be everything we always wanted from him?

Who's to say that he could come back and poison 121 too?

Either could happen.

He is talented enough to recover from the mistakes he has made so far.

121 is talented enough to allow him to leave.

Turn the page.
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Bob Seager
 
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eskimovol said:
I think he was only gone a few months and he left on mutual terms. Worried about his health and wanted to focus on his degree, plus he was burnt out with football if I remember correctly. The absence did wonders for him though.
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So was Hurd.

It was not on mutual terms, but it wasn't on bad terms. The fact of the matter is Joe Williams walked on people who depended on him and they asked him back because it made sense for both parties.
 
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He quit on an undefeated team (he actually quit in Athens, just finalized it in Columbia). He wasn't a homesick freshman or disappointed about playing time (hell, he was playing more than he deserved), he was an upperclassman and key player on the team. I would say "leader" but I don't think that is true.

Truth is he's looked around and found that the world isn't falling all over themselves to get Jalen Hurd. No way should Jones allow him back. If CBJ does, it would be his worst coaching decision yet.

Grif just writing something to stir interest...JMO
 
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wmcovol said:
He quit on an undefeated team (he actually quit in Athens, just finalized it in Columbia). He wasn't a homesick freshman or disappointed about playing time (hell, he was playing more than he deserved), he was an upperclassman and key player on the team. I would say "leader" but I don't think that is true.

Truth is he's looked around and found that the world isn't falling all over themselves to get Jalen Hurd. No way should Jones allow him back. If CBJ does, it would be his worst coaching decision yet.

Grif just writing something to stir interest...JMO
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He quit in the womb and that's a valid opinion because I hate him. Rabble rabble
 
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n_huffhines said:
Utah's RB walked out on his team 2-3 years ago...the coaches asked him to come back last year and he dominated the PAC 12.
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Joe Williams quit over issues with prescription drugs and depression over the death of his sister. Jalen Hurd quit because he got his feelings hurt and felt like he was lied to (and perhaps there is some truth to that). In any case, the two cases are apples and oranges.
 
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wmcovol said:
He quit on an undefeated team (he actually quit in Athens, just finalized it in Columbia). He wasn't a homesick freshman or disappointed about playing time (hell, he was playing more than he deserved), he was an upperclassman and key player on the team. I would say "leader" but I don't think that is true.

Truth is he's looked around and found that the world isn't falling all over themselves to get Jalen Hurd. No way should Jones allow him back. If CBJ does, it would be his worst coaching decision yet.

Grif just writing something to stir interest...JMO
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He would be a non scholarship walk on. He's not coming back and paying his own way. I would ask 1 person and 1 person only about letting him return (if it was even assumable). Josh Dobbs. He would give the straight up answer based off what he knows happened in the locker room (cause we dont)
 
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So does a kid deserve a second chance? I may be wrong but you can tell that he had people in his ear telling him the wrong things. So what if he came back to Butch and asked back on the team? For what he did for this program thru his first 2 years, I say give him the chance to earn the respect of his teammates. Was he a locker room problem? Maybe. But who hasn't made a dumb decision as a kid? If he comes back like a man and owns up to his selfish ways then Im all for it.
 
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Coachmike17 said:
He would be a non scholarship walk on. He's not coming back and paying his own way. I would ask 1 person and 1 person only about letting him return (if it was even assumable). Josh Dobbs. He would give the straight up answer based off what he knows happened in the locker room (cause we dont)
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Josh Dobbs wasn't the only one in the locker room, so he isn't the only source of knowledge. Why would you leave it to a former player who won't be around to monitor Hurd and his behavior, or perhaps deal with the potentially negative ramifications of his hypothetical return? That isn't fair to the 2017 team.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Joe Williams quit over issues with prescription drugs and depression over the death of his sister. Jalen Hurd quit because he got his feelings hurt and felt like he was lied to (and perhaps there is some truth to that). In any case, the two cases are apples and oranges.
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The reason for quitting does not matter. You take him back if he makes you better. That is the bottom line.

Ironically, our feelings are hurt, which is why we won't act like adults about it.
 
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SupremeVol said:
So does a kid deserve a second chance? I may be wrong but you can tell that he had people in his ear telling him the wrong things. So what if he came back to Butch and asked back on the team? For what he did for this program thru his first 2 years, I say give him the chance to earn the respect of his teammates. Was he a locker room problem? Maybe. But who hasn't made a dumb decision as a kid? If he comes back like a man and owns up to his selfish ways then Im all for it.
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He doesn't deserve it but he also didn't do something unforgivable. I hope the coaches will look at this with an open mind and make the best decision for the team.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The reason for quitting does not matter. You take him back if he makes you better. That is the bottom line.

Ironically, our feelings are hurt, which is why we won't act like adults about it.
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Well, I disagree. Quitting because of a mental illness and a recognized drug problem is different than quitting because you don't like how you're being used. You can agree to disagree if you'd like.

And I don't say that because I 100% believe he doesn't deserve a second chance.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Well, I disagree. Quitting because of a mental illness and a recognized drug problem is different than quitting because you don't like how you're being used. You can agree to disagree if you'd like.

And I don't say that because I 100% believe he doesn't deserve a second chance.
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You have to think economically. Do you want revenge or do you want to win?
 
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n_huffhines said:
He doesn't deserve it but he also didn't do something unforgivable. I hope the coaches will look at this with an open mind and make the best decision for the team.
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You are right. He did quit. But I think that choice haunts him now. Im not saying give him a call to come back. But if he does attempt it, then he should have a fair chance. Once a Vol, always a Vol. #wearefamily
 
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I have a hard time denying grace to young people. I know I sure got a lot of it when I was that age. If not, my life would have turned out much differently.

As a coach, if the other players were okay with it, I'd roll the dice on him knowing that he'd be on a short leash.

I'd even go so far as to develop a fork of the offense that uses him in a slot/TE/Hback roll with even a few two back sets with him and Jelly. If you could get him 12-15 touches a game, he'd definitely cause problems for the other side. When his head is right, he's a man among boys on the field.
 
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There is plenty of teams out there, go find one that will take you. Hell to the NO, I don't want him back. I wish him well, but if he felt so strong about leaving after what he did why should Tennessee take him back. His mother just the other day put down one of our players on twitter for the whole world too see. It's time to move on we don't need the drama. GBO!!!!
 
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wildorange said:
There is plenty of teams out there, go find one that will take you. Hell to the NO, I don't want him back. I wish him well, but if he felt so strong about leaving after what he did why should Tennessee take him back. His mother just the other day put down one of our players on twitter for the whole world too see. It's time to move on we don't need the drama. GBO!!!!
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"we don't need the drama." Well put.
 
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