M. Griffiths thinks Hurd should return

#76
#76
let the Seniors decide.... my gut reaction is not a chance,, but let the players decide

NO. I think this is one of those times where the wagon doesn't need to pull the horse. I don't even think this is the coach's decision. This is bigger than that and should fall on the AD, and for me the answer is a resounding NO.
 
#77
#77
I thought he wanted to switch positions to TE?? The article talks as though he comes back as a RB but is that what he wants? Seems to me if he just wants to be a RB, some other school would already have offered him a scholarship to do that.

Athletic wise, I have no doubt he would be an excellent TE. I have doubts however about whether his attitude would adjust to the change. It is very different carrying the ball 20-30 times a game to being a TE.
 
#79
#79
I thought he wanted to switch positions to TE?? The article talks as though he comes back as a RB but is that what he wants? Seems to me if he just wants to be a RB, some other school would already have offered him a scholarship to do that.

Athletic wise, I have no doubt he would be an excellent TE. I have doubts however about whether his attitude would adjust to the change. It is very different carrying the ball 20-30 times a game to being a TE.

Do we know that that hasn't happened?

I think he might have realized he doesn't want to sit out a year and is hoping for a better solution.
 
#80
#80
He would be a non scholarship walk on. He's not coming back and paying his own way. I would ask 1 person and 1 person only about letting him return (if it was even assumable). Josh Dobbs. He would give the straight up answer based off what he knows happened in the locker room (cause we dont)

Why would you but Dobbs, or anyone that was on the team for that matter, on such a spot. His action speaks for itself.
 
#82
#82
Do we know that that hasn't happened?

I think he might have realized he doesn't want to sit out a year and is hoping for a better solution.

I don't know. Just seems that if he was offered by someone like UL or Cal, he should have grabbed it even if it meant sitting out a year. Surely he/his family know that being allowed back to UT would be a LONG, LONG, ........ LONG shot.
 
#83
#83
An apologetic Hurd returning back to the Vols with a heavy heart? C'mon VN, surely some of yall are intrigued?

He was a problem from both an attitude and chemistry perspective even before he quit on the team in the middle of an important game. You just don't come back from that. He's a kid with lots of potential, but I doubt he ever earns the success he probably could have. Sad, sad, sad.

What coach would bring in a possible chemistry issue to such an important season?
 
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#84
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. . .What coach would bring in a possible chemistry issue to such an important season?

It's no different than the countless other issues that coaches deal with all the time. Drugs, violence, academic fraud, etc. For every player there is a risk/reward evaluation that has to happen.

If Hurd really does want to play at UT again (I would be surprised), he'll get that same evaluation. The coaches may be willing to take the risks because the potential rewards are pretty dang high.
 
#85
#85
Nah, we dont need that....he will get another chance somewhere else or in a different league that will be his second chance, not in Knoxville
 
#86
#86
So does a kid deserve a second chance?

I think he had a second chance during the season. He obviously did not decide at halftime of the USC game to quit. He was reportedly in the dog house already giving him ample time to make amends with the coaching staff and his fellow players.
 
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#87
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#88
#88
I don't want him back because I don't think his attitude is going to change anytime soon. If the coaches and players decide they want to give him another shot then I'd support it. Preferably at TE and not RB.
 
#89
#89
At this point it doesn't appear that any major school has any interest in him. Too bad that his decision making process is so flawed.
 
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#93
#93
Ok so I've seen how a bunch are saying giving him a second chance, the problem with that is, what kind of example does that set to the rest of the team?

Oh look Hurd and his family acted like asses so now I can get a second chance too. No you don't bring him back for numerous reasons.

1.) You already have John Kelly ready to go, he's the defacto starter, you bring Hurd back and put him in as the starter and you lose Kelly.

2.) Can't really move him to TE cause then you're just gonna take away from another player there.

3.) WR? He's not fast enough, could be a good possession WR but we have enough WRs.

If he wants to play so badly he can drop down a level and play right away, but there's too much baggage and drama with his family to allow him to come back, and if I'm a player on that team I'd be pissed if this was even discussed.
 
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#94
#94
Does he make our team better....

If yes and he has learned from mistakes, you take him back.

It is very hard to believe no one is willing to take him because as we have learned in recruiting THEORETICALLY...kids can have murder charges reduced and still find a school willing to better their team...
 
#96
#96
I think if Hurd got up in front of the team and took ownership for what he did wrong and then was accepted back by his peers I would be ok with his return. Also, a very strict 1 strike policy of no bs, just keep your head down, go to class and listen to the coaches. Basically be the model of a good teammate.
 
#97
#97
I think if Hurd got up in front of the team and took ownership for what he did wrong and then was accepted back by his peers I would be ok with his return. Also, a very strict 1 strike policy of no bs, just keep your head down, go to class and listen to the coaches. Basically be the model of a good teammate.

This. I would also add, let his teammates vote on it.
 
#98
#98
let the Seniors decide.... my gut reaction is not a chance,, but let the players decide

That was my initial reaction, but that is like letting the patients run the asylum. Coach just needs to act like he has a pair, and not set a bad precedence.

Someone blamed Hurd for the Carolina loss costing us the SEC East. I feel letting players have too much power led not only to Hurd's nonsense but a whole lot more than the SEC East.
 
From all accounts it sounds like he was a locker room cancer. You cut cancer out and pray to God it doesn't return. No way he should come back.
 
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