LSU beats Bama

#51
#51
Electric Orange said:
Tua has never played in Death Valley at night. The way some of you talk makes it sound like Bama should just be declared the champs and not bother playing anyone else since they're the finest most invincible team to ever step foot on a field. Gimme a break. That defense is good but not even Saban's best. Tua is a little gimpy, and if the crowd and press coverage can throw off his rhythm, LSU has a shot. Stranger things have happened.
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  • LSU has never beaten a #1 ranked Alabama team - 1979 (lost, 3-0); 2008 (lost, 27-21 in OT); 2012 (lost, 21-17), 2013 (lost, 38-17) and 2016 (lost, 10-0).
  • From 1970-to 2000, a period of 30 years, Alabama never lost a game in Baton Rouge.
  • Alabama has an all-time higher winning percentage in Death Valley than LSU.
 
#52
#52
diehardvolsfan said:
Pac 12 ain’t all that this year. Plus not all the P5 conferences get a spot in the final four. I’m betting it’s gonna be Bama Clemson UM/OSU winner and probably OU...
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The point is that you said it should be limited to SEC, ACC, Big XII, and Big 10 champs. The reason you can't limit it to only conference champs is because you can't handle 5 conference champs in a four team playoff. As such, the only way to handle the issue is to take the 4 best teams regardless of conference. You can argue whether or not Bama was one of the four best last year, or tOSU the year before, but it's the way it has to be until we get down to just four conferences (which will happen before too long).
 
#53
#53
I predict that LSU won't be coughing up 21 or28 points in the first 7 minutes like everyone else. That will make it Bama's lowest scoring venture of the year. LSU will be in this game for a full 4 quarters.
 
#54
#54
I don't know if it matters if bama loses. They will still get in the playoff. Bama has to lose twice. Everybody else has to lose once. Could be another back door title for the gumps.
 
#55
#55
LibertyVol said:
I don't know if it matters if bama loses. They will still get in the playoff. Bama has to lose twice. Everybody else has to lose once. Could be another back door title for the gumps.
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Everyone in the playoff had 1 loss last year. In fact, of the 16 teams that have made the playoff, only 3 came in undefeated.
 
#58
#58
diehardvolsfan said:
Only happened once in his tenure as coach in 2009. 14-0. Yes I agree it’s very tough to go undefeated in football. If it happens again with Bama this year that might be the last unbeaten season for Saban...
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Or it could be the beginning of a streak which hasn't been seen since OU won 47 straight. Considering how far ahead they are and that the rest of the conference doesn't appear to be gaining ground, it's possible.
 
#61
#61
LibertyVol said:
But not the best team in their state. Auburn was.
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Yes Auburn beat them head to head during the regular season, but no one could say with a straight face that Auburn was a better team last year. The point of the playoffs and the playoff committee is to get the top 4 teams in there.
 
#67
#67
LSU-SIU said:
LSU runs a good mix of RPO so he will be running the ball, we'll see if its effective or not.... my guess is he will be running more than the normal 5-7 runs a game. I would be very surprised if Alabama's defense is better than Mississippi State, but they probably don't have to be. Mississippi State has the best defense in the country, probably by a good margin over everybody. imo (Don't get me wrong, I would pick Bama in this one.) Burrow is a decent runner, he's made teams pay for not respecting the RPO.

Generally if he makes it to the line of scrimmage with a good head of steam, good chance you need 2 guys to take him down... he's a big guy. He's not Michael Vick but yes, he can get yardage even in a crowd.


https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/w8N...set/file/13107869/Burrow_Owl_bash_counter.jpg
He is basically a power runner, but if the RPO is not respected he has enough speed to break them. He is an effective runner but they like to limit the number due to only one other scholarship QB on the roster, for LSU to have a chance.. good decisions and he is going to have a great game. LSU probably wishes they could run him 15-20 a game, its just not a real smart move with the QB roster.

It would be good if limits taking sacks (which he had issues with early) and can get some key runs, but don't be surprised if he is running straight up the gut on power runs... basically what they started doing against Ole Miss and Georgia.
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I'm pulling for you all and the cookie monster. But Burrow running over guys on the Bama defense, not gonna happen.
 
#68
#68
bamawriter said:
The point is that you said it should be limited to SEC, ACC, Big XII, and Big 10 champs. The reason you can't limit it to only conference champs is because you can't handle 5 conference champs in a four team playoff. As such, the only way to handle the issue is to take the 4 best teams regardless of conference. You can argue whether or not Bama was one of the four best last year, or tOSU the year before, but it's the way it has to be until we get down to just four conferences (which will happen before too long).
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What will eventually happen is they expand to 8 team playoff. That would determine the true NC. Idk how long it would be before this happens but it’s almist guaranteed to happen...
 
#69
#69
diehardvolsfan said:
What will eventually happen is they expand to 8 team playoff. That would determine the true NC. Idk how long it would be before this happens but it’s almist guaranteed to happen...
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Who would the 8 teams be? I mean, how would they be selected?
 
#70
#70
Orange_Vol1321 said:
I'm pulling for you all and the cookie monster. But Burrow running over guys on the Bama defense, not gonna happen.
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Well I think you are taking what I said out of context. When I say run over guys, I'm not saying he will run thru 3 guys all it once, generally speaking if he gets to the line of scrimmage in the clear, one guy taking him out is not an easy job, most likely he wins. (of course, if he is caught and has to dance in the backfield, he's not going to make people miss back there) He is the wildcard in the running game, LSU actually has one of the worse RB duos since probably the 70s. (their solid but very average in many ways... below average for LSU... the RPO has somewhat helped) I would not be surprised by more of what they did against Ole Miss... basically designed runs for Burrow. If I had a concern with Burrow its taking sacks especially from the left side of the line. Of course, if the defense doesn't keep Bama in check 20-32ish area its not going to matter, that seems like a very big task with White, let alone without him.

My take is LSU is a year away personnel wise, my window for them has always been 2019-2020, so I wouldn't bet the house on this game. :)

I would say if there is a few things going in LSU's favor is they are more or less battle tested, and Bama more or less hasn't been.... it will be interesting to see how the game goes if its more then a 1 or 2 quarter game.
 
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#71
#71
Zues1 said:
Red Tide again, close in the first half. Bama pulls away to win by 17.

I will say this, Orgeron comes off as a buffoon in the sideline interviews with his shtick ( grumble, grumble) but
If you watch his pressers he is very knowledgeable in all aspects of the game.

He's been one of the luckiest guys in the business, always dodging the NCAA but in the right place at the right time. How many schools has he been an interim coach, three at least. Maybe he's finally found his spot.
LSU is loaded with talent, have been for years. look out if they can land a couple of truly stud QB's back to back.
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People in Louisiana may be the only people on the planet that can understand what he's saying......
 
#72
#72
So, bama can't win the state championship, they can't win the division championship and they can't win an SEC championship, but they are the best team in the nation. Ok. So if they lose to LSU that game don't count. Just like the Auburn game didn't count last year.
 
#74
#74
BearCat204 said:
Yes Auburn beat them head to head during the regular season, but no one could say with a straight face that Auburn was a better team last year. The point of the playoffs and the playoff committee is to get the top 4 teams in there.
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I can. Auburn beat them. They were the better team.

Auburn wasn't the best team in the country though.
 
#75
#75
bamawriter said:
Who would the 8 teams be? I mean, how would they be selected?
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5 conference champs, 2 FBS at large and 1 FCS at large would address much of the controversy now. Not all, but most of it.

Under that scenario Bama still would have made it every year they did, minus some of the controversy. And UCF would have been humbled last year.
 
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