Looks like Coach Jeremy Pruitt wasn't the only one

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Stacmot said:
I just heard on the radio urban meyer is reported to be flying to Lincoln tomorrow. 10 year $120 million. Have no idea if that’s true or not. It was local radio
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I just don't think he wants to play against Ohio State(regularly). So I feel he wouldn't take any B1G job.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
As bad as hiring Pruitt turned out to be, Frost may end up being one of the worst hires of all-time. Which is crazy! No one thought that at the time.
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I agree, Dooley was my top choice but He did start the VFL program so........Pruitt finally is a winner. ( the worst coach in UT history)
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
Scott Frost was the guy I wanted most after Lyle. His resume at the time checked all the boxes for an up-and-coming Coach on his way to being the next big thing.
  • College QB under 2 Hall of Fame Coaches
  • Won 2 Nat'l Championships
  • Played in the NFL on Defense
  • Coached on 4 teams that played in BCS bowls
  • Developed multiple players that went to the NFL, including a Heisman trophy winner
  • Coached as both an Offensive and Defensive Coordinator
  • Took over an 0-12 team and had them at 11-0 in 2 years w/a national ranking and a win over #7 Auburn in a bowl game
What an absolute flame-out and disappointment.
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He had many accomplishments. He “looked” like a can’t miss…….however 2 years as a HC……in reality is FAR from a can’t miss.

In 7 seasons as a HC he certainly had the undefeated one which was amazing…….he also has a losing record in EVERY other season.

People always bring up the 0-12 season; however they almost always forget to mention the UCF had been really close before Frost ever got there…….before the 0-12 season UCF had went 9-4 and 12-1.

UCF played (at the time) in a very weak conference and the 13-0 season they also played a weak ocs. Yes they beat Auburn…..they had a good team and they had some talent.

However in NO way does that 1 season translate to Frost being a good HC…….given everything we’ve seen since. He’s made a ton of bad coaching decisions, he’s ran off multiple star players and recruits, he’s trashed multiple assistants (which he hired)…….and simply hasn’t been able to coach himself or his team out of a freakin paper bag.

They started this season with their easiest 3 games…….going 1-2……with the lone win coming against an FCS team.

Yes Frost had……in the past done some great things…….however now as a head coach……he is garbage!
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
Scott Frost was the guy I wanted most after Lyle. His resume at the time checked all the boxes for an up-and-coming Coach on his way to being the next big thing.
  • College QB under 2 Hall of Fame Coaches
  • Won 2 Nat'l Championships
  • Played in the NFL on Defense
  • Coached on 4 teams that played in BCS bowls
  • Developed multiple players that went to the NFL, including a Heisman trophy winner
  • Coached as both an Offensive and Defensive Coordinator
  • Took over an 0-12 team and had them at 11-0 in 2 years w/a national ranking and a win over #7 Auburn in a bowl game
What an absolute flame-out and disappointment.
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It will be interesting to see over the next few years how that NE job pans out with the next HC. Was the issue Frost or his resources? I am sure they have meddling donors like everywhere. It is not like Frost just woke up and forgot how to coach. We have seen the meddling donors situation front and center too many times ourselves.
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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At one time Nebraska recruited nationally as well as any program in the country. They are in the middle of nowhere in terms of the campus, however; during their championship run under Tom Osborne they would have huge amounts of players from Texas, California, etc. They also were in the Big 12 (originally the Big 8) that gave them more natural ties to Texas, Oklahoma, etc for recruiting purposes. Lots of things have contributed to Nebraska's downfall much like Tennessee's downfall. The difference seems to be that Tennessee may have finally gotten an AD that has a real vision for leading it out of the darkness with the right combination of coach, resources, and administration. IMO, Nebraska has yet to find that combination. The NIL deal just added an additional layer of complexity for all schools.
 
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JoAllan said:
UCF played (at the time) in a very weak conference and the 13-0 season they also played a weak ocs. Yes they beat Auburn…..they had a good team and they had some talent.
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Yeah, no sh!t he did a lousy job at Nebraska. That's why they fired him. Duh.

But if you're trying to downgrade the job he did at UCF by pointing out seasons from 2-3 years prior to his hire, but not the 0-12 one one immediately preceding it, that's reaching. As is trying to write-off the schedule he played. Not only did UCF beat #7 Auburn in a Bowl Game that year (who had beaten Nat'l Champ Alabama the game before) but they also beat #21 South Florida and #25 Memphis (2x) that season.
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
Yeah, no sh!t he did a lousy job at Nebraska. That's why they fired him. Duh.

But if you're trying to downgrade the job he did at UCF by pointing out seasons from 2-3 years prior to his hire, but not the 0-12 one one immediately preceding it, that's reaching. As is trying to write-off the schedule he played. Not only did UCF beat #7 Auburn in a Bowl Game that year (who had beaten Nat'l Champ Alabama the game before) but they also beat #21 South Florida and #25 Memphis (2x) that season.
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I’m not downloading a 1 year scenario I mentioned it multiple times and stated it was amazing. Just also showing there were other factors at play…….which “might” have contributed…….other than maybe he was a genius……because he clearly isn’t.

I’m downgrading the “totality” of his HC career…….as it should be.

I’ve also stated “I” thought he was a no brainer……but for different reasons……not just his time and UCF……however lots of “other” folks (not yourself) simply thought the 0-12 to 13-0 was enough…..,…it clearly wasn’t.
 
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GregAmsler said:
I mean...Pruitt had a great resume as a coordinator, even if you don't count his time at Bama (and you should count his time at Bama). Kirby Smart and Bob Stoops had never been head coaches at any level, either. Bill Snyder had been an assistant at various levels for 25+ years, but never a HC, when KState hired him. That's why ADs have to look beyond a resume, I guess. Pruitt didn't have the mental makeup to be a HC. But plenty of coordinators become great head coaches.
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Pruitt is just plain dumb. Might be a good defensive coordinator, at least when he has 7 or 8 NFL players out of his starting 11....but he is dumb as heck and anyone paying attention could see it. If Fulmer couldnt tell that this guy couldn't even speak with the grammar of a backwoods 5th grader nor count to 20 without taking both shoes off....then Fulmer was blind and not qualified to be AD sadly.

Then you add the dirty stuff causing NCAA sanctions....he couldn't even cheat correctly or intelligently like everyone else does.

2 worst seasons in UT history...courtesy of a Gump. Nice
 
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Raebo said:
Article didn’t say much except he was late to meetings and didn’t pay attention to details.
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Click on the reddit link in the article. Lots of rumors make it sound like Frost didn't give a **** about Nebraska football and used his hero status to full advantage partying it up with coeds and drinking all the time. Of course people can say whatever on the internet. I think Jeremy Pruitt still hangs on to the worst hire ever crown.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Pruitt is just plain dumb. Might be a good defensive coordinator, at least when he has 7 or 8 NFL players out of his starting 11....but he is dumb as heck and anyone paying attention could see it. If Fulmer couldnt tell that this guy couldn't even speak with the grammar of a backwoods 5th grader nor count to 20 without taking both shoes off....then Fulmer was blind and not qualified to be AD sadly.

Then you add the dirty stuff causing NCAA sanctions....he couldn't even cheat correctly or intelligently like everyone else does.

2 worst seasons in UT history...courtesy of a Gump. Nice
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Honestly I think Phil wanted a coach he could control. He was still bitter about being fired and he was gonna prove to everyone that his way was the correct way. He game passed him by and he couldn't accept it.
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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You don’t. Neb as a program in my opinion is screwed. Frost did the best he could do. What kid wants to be stuck in the middle of no where to play football. They will have a hard time finding a name coach to go there. Sound familiar?
 
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CR-vol said:
Click on the reddit link in the article. Lots of rumors make it sound like Frost didn't give a **** about Nebraska football and used his hero status to full advantage partying it up with coeds and drinking all the time. Of course people can say whatever on the internet. I think Jeremy Pruitt still hangs on to the worst hire ever crown.
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Frost lost in ways I never thought possible. He was just more likeable than Cornbread.
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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They caught "lightning in a bottle" for 40 years??? I don't think you understand the concept of what lightning in a bottle is.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Frost laost in ways I never thought possible. He was just more likeable than Cornbread.
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Yeah that's the public image. Nebraska football hero adored by the fans and could do no wrong. He should have been fired a long time ago. Read the reddit link in that article. Lots of anecdotes people seeing him in public at a grocery store or whatever and he was a jerk.
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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Ummm…Uncle Warren money
 
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Defcon5 said:
You don’t. Neb as a program in my opinion is screwed. Frost did the best he could do. What kid wants to be stuck in the middle of no where to play football. They will have a hard time finding a name coach to go there. Sound familiar?
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correct…but in all fairness many were saying the same things about UT until we found what appears to finally be our guy. There’s also plenty of schools which are in remotely populated areas…wvu, Penn st, even Iowa…no reason Nebraska can’t at least get back to Iowa type level of competition.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Honestly I think Phil wanted a coach he could control. He was still bitter about being fired and he was gonna prove to everyone that his way was the correct way. He game passed him by and he couldn't accept it.
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Let’s move on. Fulmer went into retirement after he won the natty. He was bad. Coaching staff was bad. Recruiting was bad.
 
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Would be cautious on believing these reporters. Probably are being fed information from assistance who want to blame all their lack of success on coach frost. These coaches are going to need new jobs next year and deflecting blame serves their interests.
 
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