Let The 2017 Hype Begin

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#126
VolFootballIsLife said:
I would agree that there's a ceiling or barrier that Butch hasn't broken through but I do believe he's made changes in an attempt to get better. The one constant has been the offensive scheme. But I believe the offensive has been pretty damn effective. Defense and Strength/Conditioning scream for the most attention. He made an attempt to rectify those things. You can hate the guy but he has made efforts to put this team in a better position to compete.
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All he has to do is string 68+ qtrs of great football together and we are 16-1 NC.

Release the Beast!
 
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wildorange said:
We can win the east but we will have to work our butt off in this off season in the weight room and stay focused and together as a team. I just have a feeling this group will be more of a team unit and will be a exciting group to watch. I think this team will exceed expectations. 9-3 or 10-2 and we win the east this year. GBO!!!!!
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Last season during the off season there was a lot of trash talk by bammer fans.. for some reason there has been a lack there of. Between then not winning the NC and our coaching changes.. we got them worried. We come into 2017 with an unproven QB and OC. BUT we also come bearing an experienced defense.. an experienced DB/ special teams coordinator. A proven S & C coordinator and a QB coach. So many things happening on Rocky top.. for the good for once.



GBO!! 2017
 
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#128
No hype, just play the games. I think we've done something if we go 8-4. Anything better than that will tell me maybe Butch has figured out how to manage a game better and the coordinators are working out. No way to know if Shoop will get the defense squared away. We really have no idea how Scott will do as OC. Lost a ton on defense anyway and what we do have left up front seem to be perpetually injured. Throw in two unproven QB's behind what may still be a suspect OL and it's anyone's guess.
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
I would agree that there's a ceiling or barrier that Butch hasn't broken through but I do believe he's made changes in an attempt to get better. The one constant has been the offensive scheme. But I believe the offensive has been pretty damn effective. Defense and Strength/Conditioning scream for the most attention. He made an attempt to rectify those things. You can hate the guy but he has made efforts to put this team in a better position to compete.
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I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he is a very good football coach. He has done a good job recruiting and been a good representative for the school despite some awful pr blunders. His record with off the field stuff is exemplary. So no, I don't hate him.

However, on to the reason he makes four million a year, he just isn't that good. Maybe those coaching changes will save him. That's not much different than any other coach but the issue is that it never seems to mesh well under CBJ. The Offense has been good and really picked up when Debord got here. However, there are several ongoing problems with the OLine. Without going into too much detail, I think some are scheme related and some are manpower management related. It may also be the inability to develop talent (which I think is the overall issue on the team). The WR have underwhelmed as a whole, not hiring a SC coach immediately, not having a full time QB coach, etc all problems with Offense that has been pretty good.
On Defense we get one of the top names for a coordinator and have the worst defense in Tennessee history. Injuries also played a role. In addressing that, Jones admitted he eased up during practice to avoid injuries.

These types of points can have endless discussions either way, but the overall theme to me is that CBJ cannot seem to manage a season to lead the Vols to be considered a top echelon SEC team. His record against rank teams is awful, 0 wins against the West and an overall losing SEC record. I good coach figures out how to win a game a two he shouldn't most years. CBJ trends the other directions. Yeah I know people will point to the Florida win. IMO it was a great comeback that never should have been. We should have won at least 2 of the last 3, which would take a bit of the excitement out of this years win. I could list the same for a couple other games but you get the point.

As I have said before, if Tennessee fields a fundamentally sound team that gets the most out of the talent and drops a game they shouldn't but is at the 9-10 win mark and wins the east every few years, then I don't give a crap if the coach is Princess Belle or Kermit the Frog. Just don't be Paterno or Briles and I'm good.
 
#133
#133
Since we're expecting a down year we will probably have a great season and meet back here to talk about 2016 and what could've been over 3d Doritos and mountain dew.
 
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#134
dduncan4163 said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5787rNE-EE[/youtube]

I think we can exceed expectations barring injuries in 2017. The tough games are spread out and I just got a gut feeling JG will not only win the QB competition but he will lighting it up by November. My optimism is sky high for team 121 and I am going to pump the hell out of some sunshine from here to September.
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Oh, lookie, here we go again...
 
#136
#136
volfannbama said:
Apparently, its mean to say fantasy or delusional so right on guys. 15-0 we go........:crazy::),
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volfannbama said:
Its funny, i get slammed for replying to someone as they clarify that they mad a joke, yet i cant do the same. I even added the stupid little smiley face
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(Insert Double Facepalm Here)

Your definition of "slammed" and mine, is way different.

Reviewing your "post resume", I believe you were trying to be funny, but you were also being serious. (Sarcasm) am I right?

I never said calling others "delusional " or saying they live in "fantasy land" was "mean". Chargervol and myself only offered the reason others call you names, is because you say those things about them, frequently.

It ain't rocket surgery, but sometimes you make it seem like it is. Hence the Facepalm gif.

JMO.
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K-town Vol Fan said:
We have a top 10 class already with some big names still on the board.
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14th according to 247 and dropping. Ryan Callahan told Swain yesterday that he thinks the class finishes in the 15-18 range. Average star rating per player is 21st right now, so we have more quantity than quality. Certainly have some very good to potentially outstanding players in this class,but on the whole it's not one you can compete for an SEC title with on paper. Just not enough elite players in the class.

Also, one big name still on the board who has 100% crystal balls to Alabama.
 
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Behr said:
(Insert Double Facepalm Here)

Your definition of "slammed" and mine, is way different.

Reviewing your "post resume", I believe you were trying to be funny, but you were also being serious. (Sarcasm) am I right?

I never said calling others "delusional " or saying they live in "fantasy land" was "mean". Chargervol and myself only offered the reason others call you names, is because you say those things about them, frequently.

It ain't rocket surgery, but sometimes you make it seem like it is. Hence the Facepalm gif.

JMO.
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Yeah, my point is that the only person allowed make a joke is the person making it. Also, what I mean by delusional or fantasy land is those that offer nothing behind the thinking we are going 15-0. Or those that said we were going to the playoffs after losing to USC. Sorry if it seems mean, but sometimes the truth hurts. We can all have a group hug if you want.
 
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volfannbama said:
Yeah, my point is that the only person allowed make a joke is the person making it. Also, what I mean by delusional or fantasy land is those that offer nothing behind the thinking we are going 15-0. Or those that said we were going to the playoffs after losing to USC. Sorry if it seems mean, but sometimes the truth hurts. We can all have a group hug if you want.
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No, I'll just be more sensitive to your feelings by adding a "stupid little smiley" when responding to you so you'll know I'm not "slamming" you. Cool?

:)
 
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Behr said:
No, I'll just be more sensitive to your feelings by adding a "stupid little smiley" when responding to you so you'll know I'm not "slamming" you. Cool?

:)
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You, just like everyone else on this board, have not effected my feelings in the slightest bit and never will. Simply internet talk. Its like I tell my son when he says something stupid. I had to teach him that saying something stupid is not the same as being stupid.

Weird though, I have defended you several times in the past few days as being one of the better posters on the board.
 
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#143
volfannbama said:
You, just like everyone else on this board, have not effected my feelings in the slightest bit and never will. Simply internet talk. Its like I tell my son when he says something stupid. I had to teach him that saying something stupid is not the same as being stupid.

Weird though, I have defended you several times in the past few days as being one of the better posters on the board.
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I really don't know the best way to respond to this. I don't think Im anywhere near one of the "better posters", and I don't need anyone defending me, but I genuinely appreciate you saying that.

I think I'll just leave it at that.

:hi:
 
#144
#144
SlyStone said:
Keys to 2017-18 Vols:
-Solid to spectacular QB play
-Defensive line play
-Staying Healthy overall
-Secondary and Special Teams play
- Turnover creation

7 to 8 wins. Anything less CBJ may be in the hottest of water.
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Hard to believe no mention of the off line.
 
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#146
KBVol said:
14th according to 247 and dropping. Ryan Callahan told Swain yesterday that he thinks the class finishes in the 15-18 range. Average star rating per player is 21st right now, so we have more quantity than quality. Certainly have some very good to potentially outstanding players in this class,but on the whole it's not one you can compete for an SEC title with on paper. Just not enough elite players in the class.

Also, one big name still on the board who has 100% crystal balls to Alabama.
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They are trying to put cake icing on a turd

This recruiting class will be the bulk of your 2019 team

Unless they all overachieve, then that isnt looking good

Even Dooley didnt recruit more than 65% of a class as 3*s. Butch is at about 80% right now
 
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#147
Behr said:
I really don't know the best way to respond to this. I don't think Im anywhere near one of the "better posters", and I don't need anyone defending me, but I genuinely appreciate you saying that.

I think I'll just leave it at that.

:hi:
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Well then, you suck:)
 
#148
#148
Iam4utalways said:
All he has to do is string 68+ qtrs of great football together and we are 16-1 NC.

Release the Beast!
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@Behr see what I mean by delusional or fantasy land? Through four years CBJ has yet to string together 4 consecutive quarters of football yet we are talking about 68 quarters of good football.

When someone says something dumb, patting them on the head and saying Bless your heart is not doing the person any favors. :)
 
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