Let’s appreciate what we have with Josh Heupel

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Tnphil said:
3 points away from playing in the NC game 10 months ago....and he's fired. AD said it wasn't enough....ouch!
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In 11 seasons...

4-21 against top 10 teams
1-10 vs OSU
3-7 against Michigan

No nattys. No conference championships.

Sorry, but coaches at major college programs are hired to win championships, not just rack up a bunch of wins against lesser opponents and lose the ones that matter most. Too much money is being spent now to just allow coaches to meander year after year after year.
 
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Grateful for CJH. Does he make a mistake here and there? Yes he does because like the rest of us he is human. He was put in a near impossible situation when he was hired and has certainly exceeded expectations. Every fan base has the portion that are just miserable and can’t be made happy no matter what. I tend to ignore those types at all cost. Love this team and nothing but gratitude to our coach.
 
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barrylee said:
Average?? Recruiting is getting better each year! He imo has surpassed what most of us expected!

When he got here we barely had a roster, not easy to get elite recruits to buy in to that situation..
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Tennessee is the youngest team in the SEC. The recruiting class of 2021 was a disaster. The ‘22 class had Pearce, Sampson, Josephs, West & Ross. The rest really didn’t pan out. Those classes were really hurt with the negative recruiting, (“NCAA is gonna shut them down”). The portal has reduced the impact but everyone else has the portal also. Last year & this year should be the thinnest rosters Heupel will have going forward.
 
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We have a good, not great coach who is a vast improvement in where we were and has done far too well to want fired or to put on a hot seat or anything like that. He has not done so well that he is above criticism though. There are several correctable things keeping him from being great, but he seems uninterested in correcting any of them.
 
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Heupel's Offseason Beard said:
You'd be surprised. There are MANY on here that just don't like Josh Heupel for some reason. Some don't like him because his offense is "gimmicky", some don't like him because he isn't a mouthy coach like Kiffin and is a little awkward in front of the camera, some don't like him because they expect coaches to come into an absolute dumpster fire of a program and immediately recruit top 3 classes, and most are just ungrateful/ drank themselves into forgetting the last 15 years.
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I don’t think there are that many of them but chronic complainers are always the loudest in any situation. The opinions of those whiners are irrelevant. Josh, Danny White and Donde Plowman are the best things that have happened to this program in 25 years. If the whiners don’t realize that, tough Schlitz.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
For now, yes. But at SOME point, not saying this year, not saying next year, but at some point, fans will no longer be content with simply winning 8-10 games a year and getting into the playoffs once every 3-4 years. Eventually Huepel will need to win something significant. A conference championship, a natty, something. Otherwise he could wind up in a James Franklin situation.
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With the parity that’s is/going to be the way of the world due to NIL and the portal, folks better be happy with consistent 8 to 10 win seasons. I believe the days of consistent unbeaten/1 loss seasons are over for everybody.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
For now, yes. But at SOME point, not saying this year, not saying next year, but at some point, fans will no longer be content with simply winning 8-10 games a year and getting into the playoffs once every 3-4 years. Eventually Huepel will need to win something significant. A conference championship, a natty, something. Otherwise he could wind up in a James Franklin situation.
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If that's your standard, then go ahead and fire him now. That means you would get rid of greater than 90% of the current coaches, including Kiffin.
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Brave Volunteer said:
In 11 seasons...

4-21 against top 10 teams
1-10 vs OSU
3-7 against Michigan

No nattys. No conference championships.

Sorry, but coaches at major college programs are hired to win championships, not just rack up a bunch of wins against lesser opponents and lose the ones that matter most. Too much money is being spent now to just allow coaches to meander year after year after year.
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Go on ahead and fire him then considering we could always go back to winning 4-5 games a year then the same old crowd will complain about that.

Rinse & repeat.
 
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Big Orange Captain said:
Not sure if Heup will ever win a natty but he’s the best coach UT has had since Fulmer, 42-16 thru 58 games. He’s been consistent and stable and Tennessee was in dire need of that after Dooley , Butch and Pruitt. Heupel has exceeded mine and im pretty sure everyones expectations since he became coach in 2021. Heupel walked into a dumpster fire and has made us a relevant program again while programs like Auburn and Florida are still in the dumpster trying to get out. i think sometimes cause im a kinda spoiled and entitled fan that i don’t stop and appreciate the great job that Josh has done here in 4 and a half seasons.
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I'm old enough to remember 9 wins being the floor. So , I definitely appreciate Heupel
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Go on ahead and fire him then considering we could always go back to winning 4-5 games a year then the same old crowd will complain about that.

Rinse & repeat.
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Georgia got rid of a coach (Richt) that won 9-10 games a year. They hired a pretty decent replacement.

Any coach can be replaced, you just gotta find the right one. Keep the faith with DW and his hiring capabilities.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
In 11 seasons...

4-21 against top 10 teams
1-10 vs OSU
3-7 against Michigan

No nattys. No conference championships.

Sorry, but coaches at major college programs are hired to win championships, not just rack up a bunch of wins against lesser opponents and lose the ones that matter most. Too much money is being spent now to just allow coaches to meander year after year after year.
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True...as it should be....And it's the same here at Tennessee, or should be...But Penn State didn't get to within 3 points from playing for a national championship 10 months ago from just beating up on lesser opponents.
 
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Tnphil said:
True...as it should be....And it's the same here at Tennessee, or should be...But Penn State didn't get to within 3 points from playing for a national championship 10 months ago from just beating up on lesser opponents.
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Well you saw his record against top 10 opponents and his two biggest rivals, right there in black and white. Who else has he beaten? I wonder what his record is in games where they were the underdog.
 
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Hurley Mooncalf said:
I think something that gets not so much lost but maybe overlooked by us when we think about our appreciation/loyalty/disgust/love/hate of a coach is that the game and the system has changed so dramatically in the last few years that it's almost hard to know what the standards to measure against should be.

Transfer portal, NIL and playoffs were not something that existed before recently. Not to mention conferences swelling in size and in the SEC's case, adding some pretty good competition.
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Very good point
 
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Delmar said:
With the parity that’s is/going to be the way of the world due to NIL and the portal, folks better be happy with consistent 8 to 10 win seasons. I believe the days of consistent unbeaten/1 loss seasons are over for everybody.
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This - the expectations of the past are not going to be the expectations of the future.
 
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