Les Miles year 3

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He bombed out at recruit rich LSU. Why would anyone think he could have done better at UT? In the end he caught at LSU what PF caught at UT, complacency. The drive to be on top no longer was a fire burning within them. Being just a cut below the top was alright and we all know you just cannot remain there by happenstance you probably have to work harder to maintain being top dog than it took to get there and few can do it. Saban can and does, PF & Les Myles could not.
 
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Remy said:
He bombed out at recruit rich LSU. Why would anyone think he could have done better at UT? In the end he caught at LSU what PF caught at UT, complacency. The drive to be on top no longer was a fire burning within them. Being just a cut below the top was alright and we all know you just cannot remain there by happenstance you probably have to work harder to maintain being top dog than it took to get there and few can do it. Saban can and does, PF & Les Myles could not.
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Bombed? 😂
 
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Yes. . . yes. . . let's pass on a national championship coach for Jeremy, who's never been a head coach. . . ever. Nearly any coach would've been better than Jeremy.
 
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N.ohio vol said:
Where would we be right now in year 3 with Les Miles? I thought for a moment Fulmer was going after him in the beginning. I know people are going to bring up kansas. But where do we fair at this point record wise? Would we be in better shape?
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Probably better because no learning curve on how to run a program. He was my choice when Mullen fell off the board
 
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escapegoat2 said:
I’m not sure who I wanted when Pruitt was hired that was realistic. I wanted Gruden, but wasn’t realistic.
I was honestly happy with the Pruitt hire, and thought we lucked into a great situation with him. Oops

I remember now. I wanted Leach. Another oops.
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The jury remains out on Leach. Give him time to build his team.
 
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N.ohio vol said:
Where would we be right now in year 3 with Les Miles? I thought for a moment Fulmer was going after him in the beginning. I know people are going to bring up kansas. But where do we fair at this point record wise? Would we be in better shape?
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Les at Tennessee would have been defined by the coordinator hires he would have made. I also think our recruiting would have been just as good at minimum as Pruitt.

I think a few roster moves and management Pruitt has done is simply because he’s inexperienced as a first time head coach.
 
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I still think Les Miles would've been the better hire. Certainly much more justifable. I would have trusted Miles to put a better staff in place.

Don't think Les would have given his best Friend nearly 1 million dollars a year to not coach and develop players. Les would not have hired a Defensive Coordinator that's never been in that position......

Would Les have been the long term solution? Probably not. But, stability and a better foundation? Yes.

It was a complete fiasco and Les would've jumped all over the opportunity. He actually WANTED the job.....
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Yes. . . yes. . . let's pass on a national championship coach for Jeremy, who's never been a head coach. . . ever. Nearly any coach would've been better than Jeremy.
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You overhear anymore shouting matches that you're going to turn into teases that letdown?
 
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wmcovol said:
I think les can motivate his team, something Pruitt is unable to do.
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I would hv thought Miles would hv been successful just like Coach Barnes in b-ball has been... would hv been a great hire imo....

But then I see Kansas and they suck.. so that makes me think maybe he’s lost it! 😂
 
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N.ohio vol said:
Where would we be right now in year 3 with Les Miles? I thought for a moment Fulmer was going after him in the beginning. I know people are going to bring up kansas. But where do we fair at this point record wise? Would we be in better shape?
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Fulmer wouldn’t hire someone that beat his ass. Even though he’d built a sound defense and power run game like Fulmer loves. LSU the last few years Miles was there had a bunch of JG QB busts. Who knows at this point though. At that time he was the most proven HC available.
BTW....people talk smack about him, he was complacent, not motivated...Texas fans said the same things about Rick Barnes when he was told to get to stepping...sometimes you just need a change of scenery to ignite that spark in you...just saying.
 
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Remy said:
Yes, bombed as in FIREd.
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90% of SEC coaches eventually get fired. Maybe more. Only like 5% win a natty. I completely made that stat up but sounds about right.

It’s hard to predict how Miles would’ve done because he’s a guy who relies on his players and coaches to get it done. How well would he have recruited and and who would’ve been on his staff? No way to know
 
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It really is a nuanced question. I think we would recruit about the same level of talent. Yes, Les, like all SEC coaches except Saban, is destined to be as good or bad as his coordinators.
AshG said:
How has he done at Kansas?
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A: Saban could neither recruit at nor win at Kansas. You can argue, but think about it. It is true. No one will win there except one or two seasons per generation.
Les is simply doing what he loves at a place where football is played for obligation. He is better than Kansas deserves. His record there is not a reflection of him as a coach.

Remy said:
He bombed out at recruit rich LSU. Why would anyone think he could have done better at UT? In the end he caught at LSU what PF caught at UT, complacency. The drive to be on top no longer was a fire burning within them. Being just a cut below the top was alright and we all know you just cannot remain there by happenstance you probably have to work harder to maintain being top dog than it took to get there and few can do it. Saban can and does, PF & Les Myles could not.
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He did stagnate at LSU, but he would have managed a Natty with Joe Burrow. His legacy will be determined when we see Coach O go forward with LSU level talent. He will never beat Saban without Joe Burrow. Simple as that. Orgeron can coach, but he is not great. LSU is on par with UGA talent-wise, but that is a loser against Saban 9 out of 10 times.

Guess what, I read Hugh Freeze beat Saban twice with the high octane offense. Well now Saban has that offense, and Freeze could never beat him now. It takes a freak season like Cam Newton or Joe Burrow to do that now. Unless you are Gus Malzahn. He beat BAMA with teams that had no business doing it. Can't explain it, but it happened.
 
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DULL_BOY said:
Fulmer wouldn’t hire someone that beat his ass. Even though he’d built a sound defense and power run game like Fulmer loves. LSU the last few years Miles was there had a bunch of JG QB busts. Who knows at this point though. At that time he was the most proven HC available.
BTW....people talk smack about him, he was complacent, not motivated...Texas fans said the same things about Rick Barnes when he was told to get to stepping...sometimes you just need a change of scenery to ignite that spark in you...just saying.
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I can only think of one coach, who might mismanage the QB room less effectively than CJP. That is Les Miles. But, to be fair, Les Miles had no idea how to recruit a QB. Unless you want a 6'8" 270 lbs tub of lard, with a cannon arm, incredible wheels, and a football IQ of 13.
 
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