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0nelilreb said:
I’m curious, how does a group of countries contain a virus 🦠 with open borders?
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No your not, you wanna shift the discussion. But how does one contain it that has airports?

But go ahead, tell us how Trump should have been the top scientist at the CDC.
 
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Stew Cook said:
So, Italy is at 7% fatality rate of confirmed cases. I guess that number is inflated considerably, given that healthy infected probably aren't being tested.

Even so, this ain't the flu, folks.
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I think it was posted elsewhere in the thread maybe. Can't remember but it was numbers for Italy that looked like most of the people documented so far were elderly which would help explain the abnormally high mortality rate.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I think it was posted elsewhere in the thread maybe. Can't remember but it was numbers for Italy that looked like most of the people documented so far were elderly which would help explain the abnormally high mortality rate.
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Without a doubt, but it's showing how vulnerable those people are. Hopefully we can learn from what they're dealing with.
 
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Stew Cook said:
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No your not, you wanna shift the discussion. But how does one contain it that has airports?

But go ahead, tell us how Trump should have been the top scientist at the CDC.
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No I truly am because I just read where the great union of countries in Europe will probably go ahead and keep their borders open during the Coronavirus. Now I’m not a highly educated man but ... my dad taught us when I was but a wee lad to close the front door when I came in the house to keep the bugs outside, Seems applicable.
 
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0nelilreb said:
No I truly am because I just read where the great union of countries in Europe will probably go ahead and keep their borders open during the Coronavirus. Now I’m not an educated man but ... my dad taught us when I was but a wee lad to close the front door when I came in the house to keep the bugs outside, Seems applicable.
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I don't know. Submit a suggestion to those countries. But, hopefully our refurbished southern border wall can contain the Modelo virus.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I don't know. Submit a suggestion to those countries. But, hopefully our refurbished southern border wall can contain the Modelo virus.
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I’ll submit a suggestion in general , they are to worried about immigration, hurt feelings and god forbid any ism to look at logical solutions. You can’t make a screen door hold water , that’s pure logic . You asked how does one fix a problem when one has airports , why would you worry about airports when both doors and all the windows to the house are open for people to come and go as they please ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’ll submit a suggestion in general , they are to worried about immigration, hurt feelings and god forbid any ism to look at logical solutions. You can’t make a screen door hold water , that’s pure logic . You asked how does one fix a problem when one has airports , why would you worry about airports when both doors and all the windows to the house are open for people to come and go as they please ?
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So, close all the borders. close all the airports, shut off shipping... anything else?
 
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volfanhill said:
I can’t believe how many of you want to compare this to the flu. Let’s understand some things:

When you cite number of deaths you are using a yearly number. We are only 3 months in at the epicenter which is China. I guarantee you the number of deaths from this will dwarf those.

There is no vaccine for this. We can debate all we want about the efficacy of the flu shot but it certainly helps.

We have no antibodies to fight this. It’s a new disease our body doesn’t know how to take. That’s a problem.

People who fell healthy will make others sick. Which is why some on here who claim they will not do anything different in their lives as long as they don’t feel ill are dangerous dumb F’s.


We love freedom. Show you have the maturity to use it responsibly.
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While you are quarantined do you want running water, power, toilet paper, ...? Then a lot of people need to go to work to make that happen. And if we shut down that doesn't happen. Just cancelling schools strains that.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I think it was posted elsewhere in the thread maybe. Can't remember but it was numbers for Italy that looked like most of the people documented so far were elderly which would help explain the abnormally high mortality rate.
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Considering that some of the most beloved people in my life are elderly, that doesn't make me feel better.
 
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Stew Cook said:
So, close all the borders. close all the airports, shut off shipping... anything else?
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I don’t know , bows the time for these highly educated Europeans that I hear so much about to start doing something logical. The Screen door theory doesn’t seem to be working for them . You can’t punch holes in the boat and then wine because the water is sinking you .. you logically know there’s a correlation between rampant viral spread and open borders between countries so close together . Got to start somewhere .
 
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volfanhill said:
We shall see. When I see big business making drastic moves it’s a sign. For example Disney.

What’s going on in Italy hog? They are slightly ahead of us in this. You want to live in that world? Are they over reacting?
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People like Disney are just part of the panic reaction and a product of decision by others.

We cut international air travel for 30 days. Do you understand how many cancellations that created for Disney? They arent going to operate for 20% capacity.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I don’t know , bows the time for these highly educated Europeans that I hear so much about to start doing something logical. The Screen door theory doesn’t seem to be working for them . You can’t punch holes in the boat and then wine because the water is sinking you .. you logically know there’s a correlation between rampant viral spread and open borders between countries so close together . Got to start somewhere .
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Yet the majority of ingress comes through our airports.
 
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hog88 said:
You’re not pragmatic you are believing the BS. This bug has been in the US since at least Dec, probably since November and when it’s all said and done it will be another case of media induced hysteria.
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It will be the worst case ever. People should be hanged for this nonsense.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I see, you are trying to solve their problems, not ours.
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No I asked a question because I had just read an article on Italy and the E.U.that made no sense to me . I didn’t know NOW we are all about nationalism , I was told for three years that was bad .
 
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0nelilreb said:
No I asked a question because I had just read an article on Italy and the E.U.that made no sense to me . I didn’t know NOW we are all about nationalism , I was told for three years that was bad .
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Nationalism is on the rise in Europe, I'm sure this will add some fuel. As far as how practical closing borders is in stopping the spread of a virus, I'd say not as effective as closing airports, but doing both might help.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Nationalism is on the rise in Europe, I'm sure this will add some fuel. As far as how practical closing borders is in stopping the spread of a virus, I'd say not as effective as closing airports, but doing both might help.
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That’s what I was thinking and the reason why I even asked , they don’t seem to be that concerned about it in reality or actions taken but they seem to like to wag their fingers and tongues at the rest of us . They are better at hosting grand get togethers and global meetings than they are at taking action .
 
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Stew Cook said:
So, Italy is at 7% fatality rate of confirmed cases. I guess that number is inflated considerably, given that healthy infected probably aren't being tested.

Even so, this ain't the flu, folks.
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This is what I don't get. this is not logic no matter how many experts spout it. As an individual, you'd rather have the flu no doubt. Unfortunately the flu can kill too, and it's is exponentially more prevalent, so it is going to kill far more people, and there was never a chance that it wasn't even if no one ever did a thing about the coronavirus. If we could forever eradicate the flu today, or we could forever eradicate coronavirus it would be a remarkably easy decision. The flu, btw.
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Now this thing may kill a lot more people with compromised immune systems and weak lungs, but it still largely only kills those people. So make them stay home. If you can tell 20 year olds not to smoke because after a million cigarettes they might die, you can tell 70 year olds, they cant leave the house because there is a deadly virus on the loose. The problem is also that when you wreak havoc on our economic system, people die in a domino effect as a result of that as well.
 
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JCP201 said:
Considering that some of the most beloved people in my life are elderly, that doesn't make me feel better.
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Just about anything will affect them more severely unfortunately. I'm just saying a 7% mortality rate doesnt appear to be the norm.
 
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