Lance Leipold (Buffalo)

How would you feel if we hired Lance Leipold?

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#176
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HSTVol said:
Plowman was appointed Chancellor on 7/1/19. Pruitt was hired on 12/7/17, so no, she didn’t sign off on the Pruitt hire.

Fulmer was AD for SIX days when he hired Pruitt. Pruitt personally hired Niedermeyer, Felton, and DPP Stiff for sure, have to research the rest.

A coach’s success is largely dependent on the quality of his staff. An AD‘s success is largely dependent on the quality of the coaches he hires.

Epic fail.
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This+100 why I’m saying he will hire a proven head coach with power 5 success and somebody he feels can get him and the university through the sanctions, why I believe it WILL NOT be a up and coming head coach or OC
 
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butchna said:
Where is Dooley’s recruiting reputation “DOCUMENTED”? He was Saban’s recruiting coordinator at LSU...I can read that. Far be it for me to defend him in any way, but his declining classes at UT were a result of his declining reputation as a HC...and display the folly of relying on UT “selling itself”.
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Dooley and his staff were the worst collection of recruiters I've ever seen. They had no plan/pitch for individual recruits. They didn't try to reach out and cultivate ANY relationships with high school coaches. It was a "throw it against the wall and see what sticks" approach to recruiting, and the results speak for themselves. It was a double whammy that we had to deal with Franklin at Vandy during this time with in-state recruits. It was like a night and day difference between the 2 staffs.
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
So you don’t think the fact that Tennessee high school coaches having so much to say about the lack of relationship with Dooley, isn’t an indication of his recruiting prowess? The fact that he didn’t sign one single O-lineman in a class? The guy was a terrible recruiter that did not value the relationship aspect of recruiting, but yet, signed top 25 classes. If I had to guess, and that’s purely what I’m doing, Sabans recruiting coordinators probably do little more than put together an itinerary of things such as, rental cars, flight plans, hotel reservations...
There is no way, with a straight face, that I could give Dooley any credit, towards Sabans early recruiting success. With that said, you kinda made my point for me, Dooley had success early, as a relative unknown, which tells me that “Tennessee” played a huge part in his recruiting wins. But yes, as we got a better idea of his coaching and leading abilities, recruiting declined.
Some schools do sell themselves, to a certain extent and yes, I think Tennessee does that.
GBO!!
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He made bad decisions as a HC. Hence him being fired. If the program sells itself you shouldn’t see declining results. I made my own points for me.
 
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butchna said:
He made bad decisions as a HC. Hence him being fired. If the program sells itself you shouldn’t see declining results. I made my own points for me.
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I didn’t say that you dont need coaches to recruit.
There are plenty of examples. Kentucky basketball for one. Billy Gillespie was a terrible coach and recruiter, but yet Kentucky had some nice classes. Do you think they were going to Kentucky to be coached by Billy Gillespie? He wasn’t exactly a charmer either, so I don’t think he that going for him. Hell, Tennessee is a fine example. We’ve been garbage for 10+ years yet our numerous coaches have consistently brought in too 25 classes. Who among those coaches were considered elite recruiters? The same coaches have been subpar as far as development also.
Who would you like to see as Tennessee’s next coach and why?
I’m not being a smartass, just engaging in conversation.
GBO!!
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
I didn’t say that you dont need coaches to recruit.
There are plenty of examples. Kentucky basketball for one. Billy Gillespie was a terrible coach and recruiter, but yet Kentucky had some nice classes. Do you think they were going to Kentucky to be coached by Billy Gillespie? He wasn’t exactly a charmer either, so I don’t think he that going for him. Hell, Tennessee is a fine example. We’ve been garbage for 10+ years yet our numerous coaches have consistently brought in too 25 classes. Who among those coaches were considered elite recruiters? The same coaches have been subpar as far as development also.
Who would you like to see as Tennessee’s next coach and why?
I’m not being a smartass, just engaging in conversation.
GBO!!
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I’m definitely not a Dooley defender, just not interested in reinventing history. I’ll wait to see what our final ranking is in this class before exploring the “sells itself” theory further. If Dylan Brooks stays gone, that number drops.

Was grounded in reality coaches wise...this new AD broadens that reality. Could see Fickell now but Kiffin would save more faster.
 
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MiramarVol said:
Sounds like the previous coaches players' were graduating and his were playing as the record trends down.
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Sounds like a pretty damn good record. I don’t see him as a candidate but not because of what he’s done at his first HC gig.
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
I didn’t say that you dont need coaches to recruit.
There are plenty of examples. Kentucky basketball for one. Billy Gillespie was a terrible coach and recruiter, but yet Kentucky had some nice classes. Do you think they were going to Kentucky to be coached by Billy Gillespie? He wasn’t exactly a charmer either, so I don’t think he that going for him. Hell, Tennessee is a fine example. We’ve been garbage for 10+ years yet our numerous coaches have consistently brought in too 25 classes. Who among those coaches were considered elite recruiters? The same coaches have been subpar as far as development also.
Who would you like to see as Tennessee’s next coach and why?
I’m not being a smartass, just engaging in conversation.
GBO!!
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Fact is, it doesn’t matter who you, me, or any other poster on this board wants as head +oak or assistant coaches. They have hired a Proven AD and I will accept with open arms the person selected and the assistant coaches who are hired. No need in getting your panties in a wad because it will not make a difference who is selected. I would have loved to have seen Mark Ingram hired as AD, but I fully support Dr. White. I will also fully support whomever our new coaches are.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
Fact is, it doesn’t matter who you, me, or any other poster on this board wants as head +oak or assistant coaches. They have hired a Proven AD and I will accept with open arms the person selected and the assistant coaches who are hired. No need in getting your panties in a wad because it will not make a difference who is selected. I would have loved to have seen Mark Ingram hired as AD, but I fully support Dr. White. I will also fully support whomever our new coaches are.
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My panties aren’t wadded at all. I’ve been in this mindset for a while, as far as whoever the next guy is. I tend to go back n forth on who I’d like to see hired. I’m feeling pretty good about the AD hire but have mixed emotions on all the Tony Elliott talk. I just like to get other people’s thoughts because I like to stay open minded.
GBO!!
 
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HSTVol said:
Plowman was appointed Chancellor on 7/1/19. Pruitt was hired on 12/7/17, so no, she didn’t sign off on the Pruitt hire.

Fulmer was AD for SIX days when he hired Pruitt. Pruitt personally hired Niedermeyer, Felton, and DPP Stiff for sure, have to research the rest.

A coach’s success is largely dependent on the quality of his staff. An AD‘s success is largely dependent on the quality of the coaches he hires.

Epic fail.
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YEP sorry it was the other lady Davenport at that time....
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
YEP sorry it was the other lady Davenport at that time....
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Got no problem with calling out anybody in knowledge of the transgressions that have been uncovered. Just think they worked hard to keep them out of view of those upstream and that includes her and CPF. They would not have provided cover for CPF unless the evidence was solid that he did not have to be just turning a blind eye. Looking forward to the custody chain of the information provided to kick off the investigations. I have no problem with JP being held responsible as called out by the NCAA rules. Just hope there is evidence not only that he should have known, but did know and did not initiate the corrections and inform the compliance department. We get whacked by the NCAA either way, but our contractual liability to Pruitt is probably dependent on connecting him to the issues directly. I hope I am wrong or they have what they need.
 
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volinSmyrna said:
Dooley and his staff were the worst collection of recruiters I've ever seen. They had no plan/pitch for individual recruits. They didn't try to reach out and cultivate ANY relationships with high school coaches. It was a "throw it against the wall and see what sticks" approach to recruiting, and the results speak for themselves. It was a double whammy that we had to deal with Franklin at Vandy during this time with in-state recruits. It was like a night and day difference between the 2 staffs.
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It’s a testament to our facilities, fans, and traditions that even with their lackluster recruiting we still had a top 15 recruiting class each year with Dooley.
 
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ENGRVOL said:
It’s a testament to our facilities, fans, and traditions that even with their lackluster recruiting we still had a top 15 recruiting class each year with Dooley.
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Yep. If he would have spent half as much time on recruiting as he did looking at and adjusting blueprints, who knows what would have happened.
 
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aredfox28 said:
See.... I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and was saying division 2, okay my bad division 3, Don't matter still don't want him.
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I understand why, but he is a heck of a coach. This is just a different level, it’d be another gamble and those haven’t been going our way.
 
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Biggest concern was that it took 4 years at Buffalo to show results on the field. While Buffalo isnt a power, it was 13-11 the 2 years before Leipold and they regressed recordwise years 1-3 of his tenure.

If he shows a similar learning curve here, he wont get a Y4.
 
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White has made made amazing hires for the schools he has been at.

What was a great hire at Buffalo......probably wouldn’t be an awesome hire at Tennessee.

I highly doubt he even looks in that direction.

He even said “this is the first time I had an opportunity to work at a big time program.”

He’s not going to come in and do a retread of someone he hired for a “small time” program.......doesn’t even make sense.

Not saying he won’t look at smaller program coaches.....but it “seems” he views this is a much bigger job and will treat it as such.
 
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djohnnyg said:
I don't think Kiffin or Freeze are necessarily out of the question because of Plowman. White doesn't agree to come here if he's told he has to get approval for his coach hire. I think it's entirely up to him...and he was told as much to get him to take the job. If he was told he had to run everything by administration he says no thanks...and he isn't here.
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Agree,
Plowman already stated that fact about White during the presser, but you sure can scratch Freeze off White's list.
 
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Here's my concern about Leipold.

Yes, he won championships at Wisconsin-Whitewater, and did very well there.

However, he took over in 2007. They were undefeated in the regular season in 2005 and 2006. He walked in to a juggernaut already. The guy who took over after him has a record of 57-9.

I say that to say, that as impressive as his resume looks at Wisconsin-Whitewater, it isn't unique to that school. Apparently, it's just a powerhouse, and has been for decades now.

It may be that Leipold is an amazing coach. But his years at Buffalo aren't a large enough sample size for me to say that he is a program builder, and a solid coach. He is slowly having success there, but he is not yet someone that I think would be a good hire at UT yet.
 
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