Lance Leipold (Buffalo)

How would you feel if we hired Lance Leipold?

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#151
#151
bleedorange9995 said:
He’s not proven he can beat top tier coaches, if you want to say he’s a top tier choice then Chadwell would top him because Chadwell beat BYU, it’s a no brainer, like I’ve said before with butch, Dooley and cornbread, he’s not ready for a power 5 program like UT
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Dude, try reading. Literally typed "wouldn't be my top choice" in what you quoted. :rolleyes:

And you've no idea if he's ready for a power 5 program or not. Nobody ever knows for sure until it happens. He is however 2-0 against Kiffin and smoked him both times, by 20 and 34 points.
 
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#154
goldvol said:
Yes, you obviously don't realize they're in different sports. It's a lot easier to win basketball games than nfl games.
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You brought up the comparison cornbread, not me. And no, it's not literally not easier to win basketball games than football games, each one has exactly the same number of winners and losers at the end of each contest, genius.
 
#155
#155
WilcoVolsFan said:
Dude, try reading. Literally typed "wouldn't be my top choice" in what you quoted. :rolleyes:

And you've no idea if he's ready for a power 5 program or not. Nobody ever knows for sure until it happens. He is however 2-0 against Kiffin and smoked him both times, by 20 and 34 points.
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Is Kiffin a top tier coach? We are at a point where we can’t speculate if they would be good, we have to hit the home run this time no buts about it, we have to hit it, we can’t take risks on we never know unless approach
 
#161
#161
CAVPUT said:
I'm excited to see who he picks. Guy obviously knows a good coach when he sees one. Comforting thought and refreshing.
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I am too, but I'm nervous about our know-everything(nothing) fanbase not being able to. Before Frost arrived at UCF, he'd only been an OC for 2 years at Oregon. Leipold was a DIII coach prior to Buffalo and had didn't have a winning season until year 3.

If White goes the up-and-comer route again and that person needs a couple seasons to right the sinking ship, like Matt Ruhle at Baylor for example, our fans will be calling for his head after year two.
 
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I don't think Kiffin or Freeze are necessarily out of the question because of Plowman. White doesn't agree to come here if he's told he has to get approval for his coach hire. I think it's entirely up to him...and he was told as much to get him to take the job. If he was told he had to run everything by administration he says no thanks...and he isn't here.
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
I am too, but I'm nervous about our know-everything(nothing) fanbase not being able to. Before Frost arrived at UCF, he'd only been an OC for 2 years at Oregon. Leipold was a DIII coach prior to Buffalo and had didn't have a winning season until year 3.

If White goes the up-and-comer route again and that person needs a couple seasons to right the sinking ship, like Matt Ruhle at Baylor for example, our fans will be calling for his head after year two.
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Why I say it will not be an up and coming coach, too much of a risk for that coach, it’ll be a seasoned coach for sure
 
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#165
PruitthasLanded16 said:
It was getting pretty stocked, if all these people actually leave in the portal like Eric Gray, Morris, Henry T, Chandler, and so on. It could be a much harder start in the SEC for whoever the new coach is.
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We have SEC caliber guys who haven't developed. They are sitting there for a coach to break and rebuild. UT Football still has good bones, even after this.
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
You brought up the comparison cornbread, not me. And no, it's not literally not easier to win basketball games than football games, each one has exactly the same number of winners and losers at the end of each contest, genius.
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This is perhaps dumbest post of the year. I really hope you are being argumentative, and dont really believe that it's just as easy to win nfl football games (or mlb baseball games) than it is to win college basketball games. Have you never heard of parity?
 
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Majors said:
Butch and Dooley were a given even to the casual fan.
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That's some awfully nice revisionist history right there. Butch was dumpster fire in hindsight, but when he was hired in 2012, most thought it a pretty good hire. Six years as a head coach, turned around two programs, Big East Coach of the Year, and upset James Franklin in the Liberty Bowl. Any UT fan telling you they weren't on the Butch Bandwagon going into the '16 season after beating #19 UGA, nearly upsetting 'Bama in Tuscaloosa, and finishing 22nd in the AP Poll is full of $hit.

Anyone who says "they know" how a new coach will work out is also full of $hit. How bad did Tennessee fans want Charlie Strong in 2014? Nobody ever knows for sure if the hot shot up-and-comer du jor will be the next Urban Meyer out of Utah or Justin Fuentes out of Memphis.
 
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#171
butchna said:
Where is Dooley’s recruiting reputation “DOCUMENTED”? He was Saban’s recruiting coordinator at LSU...I can read that. Far be it for me to defend him in any way, but his declining classes at UT were a result of his declining reputation as a HC...and display the folly of relying on UT “selling itself”.
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So you don’t think the fact that Tennessee high school coaches having so much to say about the lack of relationship with Dooley, isn’t an indication of his recruiting prowess? The fact that he didn’t sign one single O-lineman in a class? The guy was a terrible recruiter that did not value the relationship aspect of recruiting, but yet, signed top 25 classes. If I had to guess, and that’s purely what I’m doing, Sabans recruiting coordinators probably do little more than put together an itinerary of things such as, rental cars, flight plans, hotel reservations...
There is no way, with a straight face, that I could give Dooley any credit, towards Sabans early recruiting success. With that said, you kinda made my point for me, Dooley had success early, as a relative unknown, which tells me that “Tennessee” played a huge part in his recruiting wins. But yes, as we got a better idea of his coaching and leading abilities, recruiting declined.
Some schools do sell themselves, to a certain extent and yes, I think Tennessee does that.
GBO!!
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
That's some awfully nice revisionist history right there. Butch was dumpster fire in hindsight, but when he was hired in 2012, most thought it a pretty good hire. Six years as a head coach, turned around two programs, Big East Coach of the Year, and upset James Franklin in the Liberty Bowl. Any UT fan telling you they weren't on the Butch Bandwagon going into the '16 season after beating #19 UGA, nearly upsetting 'Bama in Tuscaloosa, and finishing 22nd in the AP Poll is full of $hit.

Anyone who says "they know" how a new coach will work out is also full of $hit. How bad did Tennessee fans want Charlie Strong in 2014? Nobody ever knows for sure if the hot shot up-and-comer du jor will be the next Urban Meyer out of Utah or Justin Fuentes out of Memphis.
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No, many thought it was a train wreck hire Jones out of desperation yet again. Fools bought into the gimmicks because it distracted from his inability of coaching. I didn't renew my season tickets after his first year. For a few reasons but his inability to beat Vandy was what tipped it. Anyone following Butch before he got here was aware he rode the coattails of Kelly in his previous two stops, so not sure he turned programs around but benefitted from being tabbed next.
 
#173
#173
golfballs said:
Heupel inherited a top 10 team which has progressed to get worse. Leipold inherited a garbage program and has improved them significantly
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Leipold also had the common sense to let his unstoppable running back have almost 90 carries over 3 games and got 1000+ yards and over 15 touchdowns. Pruitt would have given the kid 8-9 touches a game.
 
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#174
GUNTERSVOL said:
NO, you have to blame that on the ten people that got fired. Guilt by association has it's limit. You think Plowman was not also fooled by and signed off on the Pruitt hire? I really really hope the details of the acts become public. I especially want to know what the LENGTHS were that they used to try and hide the issues. Without that I don' t know how to asses blame and responsibility. I have a guess or two what motivated the coaches involved, not a clue on the ops people.
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Plowman was appointed Chancellor on 7/1/19. Pruitt was hired on 12/7/17, so no, she didn’t sign off on the Pruitt hire.

Fulmer was AD for SIX days when he hired Pruitt. Pruitt personally hired Niedermeyer, Felton, and DPP Stiff for sure, have to research the rest.

A coach’s success is largely dependent on the quality of his staff. An AD‘s success is largely dependent on the quality of the coaches he hires.

Epic fail.
 
#175
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WilcoVolsFan said:
That's some awfully nice revisionist history right there. Butch was dumpster fire in hindsight, but when he was hired in 2012, most thought it a pretty good hire. Six years as a head coach, turned around two programs, Big East Coach of the Year, and upset James Franklin in the Liberty Bowl. Any UT fan telling you they weren't on the Butch Bandwagon going into the '16 season after beating #19 UGA, nearly upsetting 'Bama in Tuscaloosa, and finishing 22nd in the AP Poll is full of $hit.

Anyone who says "they know" how a new coach will work out is also full of $hit. How bad did Tennessee fans want Charlie Strong in 2014? Nobody ever knows for sure if the hot shot up-and-comer du jor will be the next Urban Meyer out of Utah or Justin Fuentes out of Memphis.
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Honestly I’ve always been on the Peterson bandwagon, I look t proven head coaches not up and comers, Meyer was a 1 out of 10 shot IMO, I wasn’t sold on Kiffin either
 
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