Lack of talent??

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#76
lostsheep said:
Regardless of talent level, 2 things good coaches generally can do with teams, IMO, is 1) Make sure they develop between seasons and improve, and 2) Make sure they are sound defensively. Any player or team should be able to achieve these 2 things, regardless of how many shots they can make.

The only player I see who looks better than last season is Richardson. Stokes has regressed or maybe wasn't as good as we all thought in the first place. Golden, McRae & McBee...are playing at the same level (or worse) than they did last season.

I thought CCM's coaching philosophy was all about 'defense?' If it is, then we are in trouble. Yes, some of our guys are out-talented, but our team defense as a whole is miserable right now. We're not handling ball screens well on the perimeter and our interior D is atrocius. This is only remedied through good scouting and knowing what to anticipate from the other team offensively and in teaching your players how to handle the situations...and apparently we are doing either very well right now.
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While I agree with the majority of your post, I must take exception to your notion that McRae is playing at the same level (or worse) as last year. If not Richardson, then McRae is the most improved player on the team. Following two seasons of maddening inconsistency, he has finally put together a string of games where he has lived up to his billing, and appears to be getting better as the season progresses.
 
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#79
this is my virgin post...but i have followed volnation and read most of your posts for quite a while...just never really wanted to spend even more time away from my kids and such to actually take the time to type. my wife says volnation is my mistress allready, but I have a question?? how much longer does CBP have to show cause? could he still be hanging in K-town to get his job back?
just a thought!
 
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allvolrat said:
this is my virgin post...but i have followed volnation and read most of your posts for quite a while...just never really wanted to spend even more time away from my kids and such to actually take the time to type. my wife says volnation is my mistress allready, but I have a question?? how much longer does CBP have to show cause? could he still be hanging in K-town to get his job back?
just a thought!
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He lives in Knoxville and his show cause runs at the end of this season, I believe. I can't recall whether he got 2 years or 3.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
He lives in Knoxville and his show cause runs at the end of this season, I believe. I can't recall whether he got 2 years or 3.
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He got 4 years. And his show cause ends in late summer/ fall month iirc making it a 5 year show cause in essence.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
He got 4 years. And his show cause ends in late summer/ fall month iirc making it a 5 year show cause in essence.
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Well, if any university could show just cause for hiring Pearl it would be us, just send a tape to the NCAA office of the game last night...


And I'M JUST KIDDING. Pearl will never coach at UT again.
 
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I'm not sure what some people are seeing, but if you don't think Jordan and Richardson have gotten better from last year to this, or even from the first game of the season to now then you are blind. Now, Other players look like they are regressing (Stokes, Hall, Golden, McBee), but some kids are getting better.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
Pearl had Watson (NBA), Lofton, J Smith. Big difference in having Hall, McBee, and Golden.
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J Smith wasn't even ranked coming out of high school. Lofton was a 3* coming out of high school. Watson was a 3* . Martin is doing less with more .
 
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tnvols72 said:
Who had better players when they took the job Pearl or Martin ? And I'm talking about as far as stars rankings goes. Buzz didn't even have enough sense to start Lofton as a freshmen. Your boy Martin sucks. He looks as lost as his team looks.
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Mad cause I proved you wrong hoss?
 
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tnvols72 said:
Who had better players when they took the job Pearl or Martin ? And I'm talking about as far as stars rankings goes. Buzz didn't even have enough sense to start Lofton as a freshmen. Your boy Martin sucks. He looks as lost as his team looks.
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If you are talking just star ratings, Watson, Lofton, Bradshaw, and Jordan Howell were all 3 stars. I thought Watson was a 4 star somewhere because I remember him being one of Buzz's better recruits. Wingate and I believe Andre Patterson were 4 stars. I can't remember when Wingate was dismissed. Patterson transferred from UCLA. Of course, we all know Jujuan Smith's story. If re-evaluated, he would have probably been a 3-4 star.

Pearl did an incredible job with that team, but it all goes back to guard play. He had a very gifted Watson at point, a 2 guard in Smith who could handle and shoot, and a sharpshooter in Lofton.

CCM didn't inherit any of that and to make it worse, his PG recruiting has been atrocius. Golden is too slow footed and certainly cannot be compared to Watson or Smith, and Cam Tatum was very inconsistent. CCM actually inherited a better inside game.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Mad cause I proved you wrong hoss?
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You have not proved nothing or nobody wrong. You have been riding Martins jock all year. You running around these boards defending him and making excuses for him. Tell everybody how Tn still going to be a 6-9 seed. Tenn still going to make the tourney ?

You still didn't answer the question.
 
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tnvols72 said:
You have not proved nothing or nobody wrong. You have been riding Martins jock all year. You running around these boards defending him and making excuses for him. Tell everybody how Tn still going to be a 6-9 seed. Tenn still going to make the tourney ?

You still didn't answer the question.
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You said he didn't have a 4 star, you were wrong.

It's really pretty simple bruh.

Once you grasp this first issue we can move on to the next, but I think for your sake we should take things one step at a time.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You said he didn't have a 4 star, you were wrong.

It's really pretty simple bruh.

Once you grasp this first issue we can move on to the next, but I think for your sake we should take things one step at a time.
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I never said I know for a fact he didn't have a 4* , I said he probably didn't have one but that's all he had was 1 , how many does Martin have? Plus he has a 5* that is not getting any better.
 
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#95
bleedingTNorange said:
He was a mid major HC?
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Even less; asst coach who became HC and, in his second yr, had a top 5 recruiting class. Came in with a pending NCAA investigation/probation and turned it around.

Without bringing any committed recruits with him, Pastner could make UTK relevant with two recruiting classes. And, before the naysayers start, a huge part of becoming a good/great coach is great recruiting. Watch and you'll see.

The point is, Martin didn't bring recruits with him, and no follow-on "relationship" has committed to the Vols. While I am on the "give him more time" side, it's easy to see that the critics may have a point. Hubbs is the only true high-level recruit to-date. Will be interesting to see where Vol recruiting is for 2013/2014 in 6 - 9 months.
 
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dixiebullfrog said:
Even less; asst coach who became HC and, in his second yr, had a top 5 recruiting class. Came in with a pending NCAA investigation/probation and turned it around.

Without bringing any committed recruits with him, Pastner could make UTK relevant with two recruiting classes. And, before the naysayers start, a huge part of becoming a good/great coach is great recruiting. Watch and you'll see.

The point is, Martin didn't bring recruits with him, and no follow-on "relationship" has committed to the Vols. While I am on the "give him more time" side, it's easy to see that the critics may have a point. Hubbs is the only true high-level recruit to-date. Will be interesting to see where Vol recruiting is for 2013/2014 in 6 - 9 months.
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While we can debate the open scholarship, Stokes is on record as saying that he didn't want to take Martin's call but accidentally did. He fell in love with him after that. Martin recruited great players to Purdue. His guard recruiting has been bad though, and that is where he needs it most. This team needs solid guard play.
 
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#98
#98
Can somebody please tell me why our coaches are not teaching Stokes to use that huge frame he has to clear space with the defender? He(like myself let me add) is vertically challenged when he is in traffic. So why not put his backside in the other guys hip and CLEAR SO FREAKIN SPACE. He has too much talent to be getting blocked 5 times a game.
 
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Lefteye said:
Can somebody please tell me why our coaches are not teaching Stokes to use that huge frame he has to clear space with the defender? He(like myself let me add) is vertically challenged when he is in traffic. So why not put his backside in the other guys hip and CLEAR SO FREAKIN SPACE. He has too much talent to be getting blocked 5 times a game.
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Don't seem to be able to teach him to play with his back to the basket.
 
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#100
Lefteye said:
Can somebody please tell me why our coaches are not teaching Stokes to use that huge frame he has to clear space with the defender? He(like myself let me add) is vertically challenged when he is in traffic. So why not put his backside in the other guys hip and CLEAR SO FREAKIN SPACE. He has too much talent to be getting blocked 5 times a game.
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Good question. I'm wondering what he picked up in a big man camp this summer, or if he went to one.

When Stokes gets the ball on the block, he dribbles once and chicken-wing hooks his way into the lane.
 
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