Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes

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hndog609 said:
Just went back through your posts in this thread and saw speculation and opinion. If that's the "support" of which you speak so be it. I'll stick with finding it unpersuasive.

FWIW I'd have much preferred this particular incident hadn't occurred. Not because I think it made one jot of a difference in the actual trial but it would have avoided the distraction. (Or at the very least there had been anyone else there that was a veteran, preferably someone that had anything to do with the prosecution)
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So you have facts to back up your position that the judge should have done this? What are they? It was Veterans Day, so it doesn't count? My reasoning is my reasoning, you don't have to agree with it. Do you have any factual "support" for why the judge should have done this other than your opinion?

Edit: you're more than welcome to find my reasoning unpersuasive, but its based on opinion, just like your opinion based reasoning.
 
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hndog609 said:
Just went back through your posts in this thread and saw speculation and opinion. If that's the "support" of which you speak so be it. I'll stick with finding it unpersuasive.

FWIW I'd have much preferred this particular incident hadn't occurred. Not because I think it made one jot of a difference in the actual trial but it would have avoided the distraction. (Or at the very least there had been anyone else there that was a veteran, preferably someone that had anything to do with the prosecution)
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I'm sure judges all over the country instruct jury members to applaud witnesses, just as they're taking the stand. Why not? Happens all the time, doesn't it?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
So you have facts to back up your position that the judge should have done this? What are they? It was Veterans Day, so it doesn't count?
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Are you confusing me with another poster? I've not once so much as alluded to why the judge "should" have done anything. I've been amused by how bent some (not just here) have been about there being a judge calling for recognition of veterans on Veterans Day.
 
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hndog609 said:
Are you confusing me with another poster? I've not once so much as alluded to why the judge "should" have done anything. I've been amused by how bent some (not just here) have been about there being a judge calling for recognition of veterans on Veterans Day.
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I don't recall anyone saying he should have done it including you.
 
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hndog609 said:
Are you confusing me with another poster? I've not once so much as alluded to why the judge "should" have done anything. I've been amused by how bent some (not just here) have been about there being a judge calling for recognition of veterans on Veterans Day.
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You've attacked my opinion as to why the judge shouldn't have done what he did. My opinion is my opinion and you claim its based on speculation. Is your reasoning just your opinion or do you have some factual basis for claiming the judge was in the right?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm sure judges all over the country instruct jury members to applaud witnesses, just as they're taking the stand. Why not? Happens all the time, doesn't it?
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Not a clue. Don't care. Have even stated it'd have been nice if when he asked there had been multiple veterans there, if only for the optics.

What would have been really nice is if everyone else had forgotten about it as quickly as the jury almost certainly did since they had, you know, actual trial stuff to consider.
 
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hndog609 said:
Not a clue. Don't care. Have even stated it'd have been nice if when he asked there had been multiple veterans there, if only for the optics.

What would have been really nice is if everyone else had forgotten about it as quickly as the jury almost certainly did since they had, you know, actual trial stuff to consider.
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Its a criminal trial, not a parade. You talk about speculation, then you speculate on its effect on the jury.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You've attacked my opinion as to why the judge shouldn't have done what he did. My opinion is my opinion and you claim its based on speculation. Is your reasoning just your opinion or do you have some factual basis for claiming the judge was in the right?
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I've been (and will remain) dismissive of any stance suggesting there's some big deal to be made of a judge taking a moment at the opening of the days proceedings to recognize veterans on Veterans Day.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
This is a whole lot of Pearl clutching over nothing.
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you have to ask is the prosecutor asking questions of Rittenhouse he is not supposed to (eg. remaining silent when confronted by the police) or the judge asking for applause for a (the only one in the room) veteran on Veteran's Day more likely to impact the jury?

I notice the people most aggrieved by the latter are silent on the former even though the former is considered a violation of the defendant's Constitutional rights.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Its a criminal trial, not a parade. You talk about speculation, then you speculate on its effect on the jury.
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If you look closely at how I worded what you reference you'll notice it was intentionally couched as speculative except for the very end. (Unless you're going to assert the jurors did not, in fact, have "actual trial stuff to consider")
 
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volinbham said:
you have to ask is the prosecutor asking questions of Rittenhouse he is not supposed to (eg. remaining silent when confronted by the police) or the judge asking for applause for a (the only one in the room) veteran on Veteran's Day more likely to impact the jury?

I notice the people most aggrieved by the latter are silent on the former even though the former is considered a violation of the defendant's Constitutional rights.
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Pretty much
 
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volinbham said:
you have to ask is the prosecutor asking questions of Rittenhouse he is not supposed to (eg. remaining silent when confronted by the police) or the judge asking for applause for a (the only one in the room) veteran on Veteran's Day more likely to impact the jury?

I notice the people most aggrieved by the latter are silent on the former even though the former is considered a violation of the defendant's Constitutional rights.
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A nicely worded post of exactly where the empty heads of some of these fools are.
 
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