MikeHamiltonFan
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For the second time in 2010 a major scandal involving our athletes has broken. For the second time, some posters on this site have shown their true colors by exulting in the misfortune our team, coaches and fans experienced. Some have tried to moderate their tone later, but the initial glee is plain to see. It is wrong to kick someone when they are down, whether it is a coach or a fan base.
I thought it should get its own thread, because there still seemed to be some debate in the massive thread, but does anyone want to defend kicking someone who is down?
To everyone who thinks stomping someone on the ground is okay, you are an idiot and a coward. I have only been stomped once and it sucked, but I have also been filled with rage at friends who kicked someone when they are down. It is a complete coward move. If someone just tore your shirt and punched your face, you can kick them after you knock them down but that is when your friends pull you off as you try to keep kicking and punching. When you sat and watched the fight and try to get your kicks in at the end, you are the lowest type of scum.
One other point I do not see being made clearly enough is that bouncers have their hands full with UT football players, and that makes them less excited to see them. Albert Haynesworth would be welcomed to any crappy bar on the strip with opened arms and hopes for $$$, but for kids who are still in college it is a massive headache for the bouncers with no upside.
Years ago at UT when I was there fights on the strip happened out back a good bit. They did not happen in the front generally, but many a sorority girl shed tears pleading with her drunk bed buddy to put his hackles down after words escalated to shoves but before anyone went to the hospital. When two guys who are drunk and weigh 180 go at each other with wild looping haymakers that glance off the ears, steam is let off and maybe one guy ends up with a busted lip and everyone laughs about it the next day. When someone who can literally break every bone in your face with one punch (like Turk McBride) heads over to fight someone, bouncers do try to intervene because they do not want anyone to die.
It sucks and seems unfair that a lippy loser will have some guys intervene to save him just because the guy he is mouthing off to is a giant, but it is a fact. The reaction should be proportionate to the action. If Kimbo Slice or Brock Lesnar wants to fight a UT football player, get your bar stool up and swing it with all your might. If a guy is a lot smaller than you and is drunk and thinks he is Superman and you stole Lois Lane, get him out of your face and let the bouncers take him out by his neck.
Fighting is instinct, and honestly I cannot fault the guy who was initially hit (if those reports are true) for anything he did. Every single person however who kicked people while they were down who was part of the group acted like a criminal coward and piece of human excrement.
I thought it should get its own thread, because there still seemed to be some debate in the massive thread, but does anyone want to defend kicking someone who is down?
To everyone who thinks stomping someone on the ground is okay, you are an idiot and a coward. I have only been stomped once and it sucked, but I have also been filled with rage at friends who kicked someone when they are down. It is a complete coward move. If someone just tore your shirt and punched your face, you can kick them after you knock them down but that is when your friends pull you off as you try to keep kicking and punching. When you sat and watched the fight and try to get your kicks in at the end, you are the lowest type of scum.
One other point I do not see being made clearly enough is that bouncers have their hands full with UT football players, and that makes them less excited to see them. Albert Haynesworth would be welcomed to any crappy bar on the strip with opened arms and hopes for $$$, but for kids who are still in college it is a massive headache for the bouncers with no upside.
Years ago at UT when I was there fights on the strip happened out back a good bit. They did not happen in the front generally, but many a sorority girl shed tears pleading with her drunk bed buddy to put his hackles down after words escalated to shoves but before anyone went to the hospital. When two guys who are drunk and weigh 180 go at each other with wild looping haymakers that glance off the ears, steam is let off and maybe one guy ends up with a busted lip and everyone laughs about it the next day. When someone who can literally break every bone in your face with one punch (like Turk McBride) heads over to fight someone, bouncers do try to intervene because they do not want anyone to die.
It sucks and seems unfair that a lippy loser will have some guys intervene to save him just because the guy he is mouthing off to is a giant, but it is a fact. The reaction should be proportionate to the action. If Kimbo Slice or Brock Lesnar wants to fight a UT football player, get your bar stool up and swing it with all your might. If a guy is a lot smaller than you and is drunk and thinks he is Superman and you stole Lois Lane, get him out of your face and let the bouncers take him out by his neck.
Fighting is instinct, and honestly I cannot fault the guy who was initially hit (if those reports are true) for anything he did. Every single person however who kicked people while they were down who was part of the group acted like a criminal coward and piece of human excrement.