Kevin Punter has committed!!

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#101
MphsBlues said:
LOL. That's what I was thinking. I think Zan mixed up the positive and negative sides. Dane would jack 3s from the wrong zip code. Did some good stuff on the defensive end, though.
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No. Bradshaw played because Pearls offense worked best with a 4 that could distribute the ball like a 2nd PG. Bradshaw worked hard on defense but you don't play a 6'4" guy at the 4 because he's a defensive stopper.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Bradshaw handled the ball well and did kick out quite a bit to Lofton and Smith after taking his man. That's about the extent of his offense but he knew his strengths. Penetrate, kick, then try and get the rebound. Played the ball really well off the rim with his ability to see where the ball was going and going to get it.
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Mr. Hustle, as well.

Oh, by the way, Buddy Guy allowed a 15 year old white kid to be featured in his show the other night. Name of Quentin something.. I love old blues artists. They LOVE to give new kids on the block a shot.
 
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zansdad said:
No. Bradshaw played because Pearls offense worked best with a 4 that could distribute the ball like a 2nd PG. Bradshaw worked hard on defense but you don't play a 6'4" guy at the 4 because he's a defensive stopper.
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Hmm, ok. I personally don't remember him loggin that many minutes at the 4, but I won't argue too much w/ you guys that have a strong bb iq. I'll take your word for it.
 
#104
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zansdad said:
Yes. Bradshaw did many good things on offense. Why else was he on the floor? It wasn't because he was a shut down defender. I swear at times I think you just set out to argue with everyone.
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Not at all, but Bradshaw didn't scare anyone on offense.
 
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MphsBlues said:
LOL. That's what I was thinking. I think Zan mixed up the positive and negative sides. Dane would jack 3s from the wrong zip code. Did some good stuff on the defensive end, though.
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Knew how to play ball, and busted his ass, but no he was far from an offensive threat
 
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#106
MphsBlues said:
Hmm, ok. I personally don't remember him loggin that many minutes at the 4, but I won't argue too much w/ you guys that have a strong bb iq. I'll take your word for it.
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He started at the 4 his entire senior year

Pg Ramar
Sg Lofton
SF JaJaun
PF Bradshaw
C Crews at start of season then Weazy
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not at all, but Bradshaw didn't scare anyone on offense.
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I didn't say he scared anyone. I said his positives on offense outweighed his negatives on defense. Putting words in people's mouth or over exaggerating what others say is why you spend 75% of your time on here arguing.

Despite all that Chievous is not cut out to play the 4. Be it busting his ass, basketball knowledge, offensive skill set, or defensive whatever kept Dane on the floor as an undersized 4, I don't think Chievous has it. As an somewhat athletic hustle wing guy that gives you 6-7 hustle minutes? Yeah I can see that.
 
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zansdad said:
I didn't say he scared anyone. I said his positives on offense outweighed his negatives on defense. Putting words in people's mouth or over exaggerating what others say is why you spend 75% of your time on here arguing.

Despite all that Chievous is not cut out to play the 4. Be it busting his ass, basketball knowledge, offensive skill set, or defensive whatever kept Dane on the floor as an undersized 4, I don't think Chievous has it. As an somewhat athletic hustle wing guy that gives you 6-7 hustle minutes? Yeah I can see that.
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This was from your original post...

Pearl was willing to swap Bradshaws positives on offense for his shortcomings on defense.
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In my opinion his offense didn't outweigh his defense, IMO he was balanced and played because of his IQ and effort.
 
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#109
zansdad said:
He started at the 4 his entire senior year

Pg Ramar
Sg Lofton
SF JaJaun
PF Bradshaw
C Crews at start of season then Weazy
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Gotcha. Yep, probably too many beers since that time :) Think what that lineup could have done w/ a strong 4. Dane was wonderful and would do anything you asked, but that's a strong ask against some of the competition.
Either way, cheers :hi:
 
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#110
Dane was solid on both ends. He showed grit and toughness guarding switches on guys like Horford and Noah. His offensive skill set was more for him being a facilitator and making timely passes. He was a glue guy that didn't allow his limitations to hinder the team. Was never the biggest Bradshaw fan, but think fondly on his time here and his effort.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
This was from your original post...



In my opinion his offense didn't outweigh his defense, IMO he was balanced and played because of his IQ and effort.
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Again. Nowhere in my post did I say he scared anyone. I said offense outweighs defense. If you don't agree that's fine but don't try to make more of it than I said.
 
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#112
MphsBlues said:
Gotcha. Yep, probably too many beers since that time :) Think what that lineup could have done w/ a strong 4. Dane was wonderful and would do anything you asked, but that's a strong ask against some of the competition.
Either way, cheers :hi:
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That team had Crews and Childress on it. I think Crews could have excelled at the 4 with Weazy at the 5 but no one asked my opinion. Either way they came very close to an elite 8 with that lineup and maybe more considering the match ups they had waiting on them. That sweet 16 game is still the most disappointing game I can think of personally as a Vol fan over the last 10 years.
 
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zansdad said:
That team had Crews and Childress on it. I think Crews could have excelled at the 4 with Weazy at the 5 but no one asked my opinion. Either way they came very close to an elite 8 with that lineup and maybe more considering the match ups they had waiting on them. That sweet 16 game is still the most disappointing game I can think of personally as a Vol fan over the last 10 years.
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I think Crews and Weezy would have made a good tandem that year, but it is what is is. As for that game, I agree, how many times in the second half did you say 'Are you f'n kidding me?'
Cause' I did. A lot.
 
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MphsBlues said:
I think Crews and Weezy would have made a good tandem that year, but it is what is is. As for that game, I agree, how many times in the second half did you say 'Are you f'n kidding me?'
Cause' I did. A lot.
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That's pretty tame actually. I commend you on your self control. :)
 
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#115
Has anyone heard comparisions to Edwards? We recruited Edwards after he shot close to 37% from 3 and was averaging like 16ppg.. Just hope Punter can play defense.
 
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iKrager said:
Has anyone heard comparisions to Edwards? We recruited Edwards after he shot close to 37% from 3 and was averaging like 16ppg.. Just hope Punter can play defense.
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For what it's worth, I always though Edwards could play. I never understood why he spent 2 years on the bench for a team the desperately needed 3pt shooting.
 
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I agreee with zansdad. I always thought Edwards probably deserved more minutes and I didn't understand why he didn't play a little more. And I don't understand what the deal was with AJ Davis ( a supreme Martin loyalist apparently) who barely played the final 2 months of the season and didn't even get scrub minutes at the end of games when the Vols were up by 30. Just some strange stuff I guess with Martin and his buds!!
 
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rocky200663 said:
I agreee with zansdad. I always thought Edwards probably deserved more minutes and I didn't understand why he didn't play a little more. And I don't understand what the deal was with AJ Davis ( a supreme Martin loyalist apparently) who barely played the final 2 months of the season and didn't even get scrub minutes at the end of games when the Vols were up by 30. Just some strange stuff I guess with Martin and his buds!!
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Martin certainly made some weird personnel decisions along the way. Davis and Edwards are just scratching the surface of it really. But that's over now. Hopefully with Tyndall, win or lose, at least who plays and who doesn't play makes a little sense to the common fan.
 
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zansdad said:
For what it's worth, I always though Edwards could play. I never understood why he spent 2 years on the bench for a team the desperately needed 3pt shooting.
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I have no doubt Edwards could've played and averaged 8-10ppg, he didn't play because of his defense. I don't think you'll see guys ride the pine for 2 years just because of their defense with Tyndall, but I could be wrong.
 
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#120
bleedingTNorange said:
I have no doubt Edwards could've played and averaged 8-10ppg, he didn't play because of his defense. I don't think you'll see guys ride the pine for 2 years just because of their defense with Tyndall, but I could be wrong.
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Maybe. I think Martin's dog house was bigger than was ever let on. I don't know how Edwards got in it but he sure never got out.
 
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#121
I always wondered why Edwards didn't get any PT. But Reese did? But also I don't think Edwards was a JUCO AA was he?
 
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#122
zansdad said:
Maybe. I think Martin's dog house was bigger than was ever let on. I don't know how Edwards got in it but he sure never got out.
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He would make a random appearance every now and then, I really don't think he was in his dog house, Martin just refused to play him because of his defense.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
I always wondered why Edwards didn't get any PT. But Reese did? But also I don't think Edwards was a JUCO AA was he?
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Don't believe so. Drew had a great post of all the JUCO all Americans from last year and their stats this past year. Basically you're looking at a 6-10ppg guy, and even that's being a bit optimistic going off track record.
 
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#124
bleedingTNorange said:
He would make a random appearance every now and then, I really don't think he was in his dog house, Martin just refused to play him because of his defense.
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Not really worth arguing about at this point but I will make one more point. If Martin valued defense so highly why did it take him so long to get Moore back into the normal rotation? JMO, but I think Martin did have a "doghouse" and some guys worked their way out (Moore and Reese) and some never did (Edwards and Miller from last year). Just my opinion but it's the only way I can understand how Martin handled his players and their playing time.

Again. Not worth arguing about. I can fully accept that the public line was "play defense" and Martin held him out for that. And that's what your arguing.
 
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