Kentucky is fools gold

#51
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1standgoal said:
KY has the edge over TN at OL, DL, QB, DB's and at RB with Hurd hurt. That leaves LB's, WR's, punting, and kicking field goals. Medley has made 9 out of 12 attempts. But you usually don't win in the SEC kicking field goals.
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Worley is great when he doesn't have to run for his life.
 
#52
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Smokey1210 said:
UK has taken advantage of a week schedule. Mark it down. They won't win another game this year!
LSU- loss
MS St- loss
UGA- loss
UT- loss
Louisville- loss
Their best shot at a win is against us and that's not going to happen. This will be another UK team that will not go bowling. I'll take our chances over theirs any day of the week.
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This is right on, Their best chance for 1 more win would be between us /Loisville & Missouri which are all on the road. They miss the bowl game each frustrating week.:banghead2:
 
#54
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Smokey1210 said:
UK has taken advantage of a week schedule. Mark it down. They won't win another game this year!
LSU- loss
MS St- loss
UGA- loss
UT- loss
Louisville- loss
Their best shot at a win is against us and that's not going to happen. This will be another UK team that will not go bowling. I'll take our chances over theirs any day of the week.
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Louisville is worse than we are. so is Mizzou.

I think Kentucky wins 2 more, but UT isn't one of them.
 
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They are well coached on offense. I've watched a couple of their games, the QB throws on time, ball comes out in about 2 seconds or less usually which is why they've had success against teams like Florida, the pass rush cannot get there. But talent? Not sure they have an awful lot of talent over there, they do have a few good players, but IMO, they have not the talent of the Vols across the board. Worley is must throw on time, no sitting back there too long, must move the pocket, which I expect to see more of this week against Ole Miss, and he has to get the ball out or away out of bounds quickly.
 
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BeattieFeathers said:
Everybody has jumped on the Kentucky bandwagon. Why? Because they beat South Carolina. The same team Texas A & M beat badly which caused pundits to jump on their bandwagon. Since, The Aggies have proven to be fools gold and is headed for a four loss season. Missouri got a big bump in the ratings. Why? South Carolina. They are trending down and Matty Mauck is playing terribly. Everybody has used Carolina as a gauge and over rating their opponents.
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Actually, I think Kentucky has the bandwagoners for the fact that if not for another botched ref call in overtime, they MAY (it wouldn't have completely decided the game) have beaten UF .. IN GAINESVILLE. No small feat for a team that hasn't beaten UF anywhere in the last nearly 30 years. UF is not a great team this year but they still have a defense and the swamp is still an awful place to have to play and UK looked very good in that game.
 
#57
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Smokey1210 said:
UK has taken advantage of a week schedule. Mark it down. They won't win another game this year!
@LSU- loss
MS St- loss
@Missori-loss
UGA- loss
@UT- loss
@Louisville- loss
Their best shot at a win is against us and that's not going to happen. This will be another UK team that will not go bowling. I'll take our chances over theirs any day of the week.
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They could hang tight with LSU who struggled with UF and also they could beat Mizzou. Hell they could beat us. Foolhardy to think otherwise. It's an improved team.
 
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#58
TDawg said:
Actually, I think Kentucky has the bandwagoners for the fact that if not for another botched ref call in overtime, they MAY (it wouldn't have completely decided the game) have beaten UF .. IN GAINESVILLE. No small feat for a team that hasn't beaten UF anywhere in the last nearly 30 years. UF is not a great team this year but they still have a defense and the swamp is still an awful place to have to play and UK looked very good in that game.
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Here is the part of the logic that I don't understand.

UK has had some close games over the past 30 years to UF, and it has never been a huge sign of improvement. Remember, both UK and UT lost to Florida this year (and for most of the past 30 years), and at no point in any season did UK almost beating Florida predict that UK would beat TN.
 
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1standgoal said:
KY has the edge over TN at OL, DL, QB, DB's and at RB with Hurd hurt. That leaves LB's, WR's, punting, and kicking field goals. Medley has made 9 out of 12 attempts. But you usually don't win in the SEC kicking field goals.
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No but you can lose it by not making field goals..ask Ala and Arkansas last wedk..FG is a huge part of football and can kill you and lose games for anybody.
 
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daj2576 said:
Here is the part of the logic that I don't understand.

UK has had some close games over the past 30 years to UF, and it has never been a huge sign of improvement. Remember, both UK and UT lost to Florida this year (and for most of the past 30 years), and at no point in any season did UK almost beating Florida predict that UK would beat TN.
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They usually don't go on to beat USC too though either. Both UF and USC are down but to say UK is not playing "up" I think is selling them short. Maybe I am wrong but when I have watched them they look like the kind of blue collar pedestrian team getting the most of their players that Butch is always talking about. I didn't use the blue reference for pun either.
 
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#62
Here's the thing, we'd be 4-2 or 5-1 with their schedule too. Seriously, before adding your input to this conversation, GO LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULE SO FAR, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. UT Martin, Vandy, Ohio, UL Monroe? Yeah, at worst with their schedule we're 4-2. With our schedule, they're also probably 3-3 at best. Hell, if the UF game were replayed and we had their schedule we're likely undefeated. It makes a huge difference, and Kentucky is about to get exposed.
 
#63
#63
DD4ME said:
They could hang tight with LSU who struggled with UF and also they could beat Mizzou. Hell they could beat us. Foolhardy to think otherwise. It's an improved team.
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I never said they were not improved. I simply said they will go down in every single game for the rest of the season. Seriously look at their schedule every single game that is winnable is on the road. Every win they have is at home. It will be ugly for them the rest of the year.
 
#64
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1standgoal said:
KY has the edge over TN at OL, DL, QB, DB's and at RB with Hurd hurt. That leaves LB's, WR's, punting, and kicking field goals. Medley has made 9 out of 12 attempts. But you usually don't win in the SEC kicking field goals.
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You think KY has a better DL and DBs than us? Put down the bong, dude.
 
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1standgoal said:
KY has the edge over TN at OL, DL, QB, DB's and at RB with Hurd hurt. That leaves LB's, WR's, punting, and kicking field goals. Medley has made 9 out of 12 attempts. But you usually don't win in the SEC kicking field goals.
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Quite possibly the most asinine statement of the week. You don't get the best third down defense in the nation by having DBs that are on par or worse than UK. I won't even address any of the rest of the post because it's so idiotic.
 
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daj2576 said:
Here is the part of the logic that I don't understand.

UK has had some close games over the past 30 years to UF, and it has never been a huge sign of improvement. Remember, both UK and UT lost to Florida this year (and for most of the past 30 years), and at no point in any season did UK almost beating Florida predict that UK would beat TN.
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Did you watch the game? Demarcus Robinson, Matt Jones and refs were all that kept it close. Now, if you're really thinking we should use the close games over a 30 year span to judge this as an anomaly, I would offer this. Look at the last 3 times the two have played in Gainesville. UK has lost by 38, 34 and 58 so no, I don't think this years game was just a "oh, they always play them close" type of thing. In fact, it's been 12 years since the game in Gainesville has even been a single digit margin of victory.
 
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landscapingvol said:
South Carolina for whatever reason plays down to their opponents and has for years. We most certainly can beat them and Kentucky but must play mistake free with our poor oline play. A decent oline and we are probably looking at a much different year imo.
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In years past, we make the plays to get the wins but now, we aren't doing that.

2009, we lost a game that we could have won simply by making a field goal at Alabama.

2010, 13 men on the field at LSU.

The ref's get us at Music City Bowl; however, had we made one big play at ANY point in the game, we would have won.

2011, we could have beaten Ky. had someone stepped up and made just one big play.

2011, the coaching caused us to lose to Missouri, in O.T. at home.

2012, we make just one big play at any point in the game, and we beat UGA.

2013, Don't fumble against UGA for an UGA T.D. and we win by 5.

2013, Don't fumble against Florida and we win by 9.

If we had the 2009, Alabama game back, that game would have gone down in history as us beating the #1 team at their place.

If we had the 2010 games, we finish the season 8 - 5.

If we had the 2011 Ky. game, we would have been a bowl team.

IF we had won the Missouri O.T. game, we are in a bowl game, 2012.

If we had beaten UGA in 2013, we would have been a bowl team.

If we had beaten UGA & Florida, we would be atop of the S.E.C. East now.

We aren't missing it by much, just one play per game is keeping us from getting there.
 
#68
#68
Based on the FPI analysis by ESPN Kentucky has the following chances of winning the rest of the games on their schedule:

- LSU 21.9%
- Miss State 22.8%
- Mizzou 44.1%
- Jawja 21.3%
- UT 35.9%
- Louisville 41.4%

With that being said the first half of their schedule was relatively easy.
They beat UT-Martin, Ohio, Vandy, South Carolina, and UL- Monroe. Not exactly murderer's row. Their SEC victories were by 10 points or less. Not exactly a powerhouse considering who they beat. A very down South Carolina and Vandy.
 
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#70
#70
Smokey1210 said:
UK has taken advantage of a week schedule. Mark it down. They won't win another game this year!
@LSU- loss
MS St- loss
@Missori-loss
UGA- loss
@UT- loss
@Louisville- loss
Their best shot at a win is against us and that's not going to happen. This will be another UK team that will not go bowling. I'll take our chances over theirs any day of the week.
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I hope you're right, but I think this is more wishful thinking than anything. No way they go 0-6 during this stretch. Although it would be nice, not gonna happen. They'll get to 6 wins.
 
#71
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DD4ME said:
They usually don't go on to beat USC too though either. Both UF and USC are down but to say UK is not playing "up" I think is selling them short. Maybe I am wrong but when I have watched them they look like the kind of blue collar pedestrian team getting the most of their players that Butch is always talking about. I didn't use the blue reference for pun either.
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They are undeniably more talented since Stoops has taken over and have beaten a team they shouldnt in SCAR. The question is how meaningful is that win given SCAR's inconsistency. I am simply stressing the danger of the logic being used to evaluate KY. Don't extrapolate out too far from one game when both teams are unknown quantities.
 
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TDawg said:
Did you watch the game? Demarcus Robinson, Matt Jones and refs were all that kept it close. Now, if you're really thinking we should use the close games over a 30 year span to judge this as an anomaly, I would offer this. Look at the last 3 times the two have played in Gainesville. UK has lost by 38, 34 and 58 so no, I don't think this years game was just a "oh, they always play them close" type of thing. In fact, it's been 12 years since the game in Gainesville has even been a single digit margin of victory.
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And in a decade UT has only been a point of beating Florida one other time. What does that mean?

If refs are mitigating factors are you also considering that UF had only played one real game under a new OC and had another game cancelled. There are other factors that might contribute to UF struggling that aren't all about UK becoming world beaters. How about considering the points you've made...how seriously did UF take Kentucky given the history you've cited?

Close doesn't count as a win, is my point.
 
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#73
#73
Kentucky probably isn't a serious contender in the SEC East but they should certainly get at least one more win this season. Games against UT, Louisville and Missouri are on the road but have those teams done anything to show that UK can't beat them? I really doubt they lose all three of those games. I say they find a way to finish 7-5 which is a HUGE turnaround from where they have been.
 
#75
#75
Funny how these threads pop up.

It starts:

Kentucky/Vandy/Florida/whoever is horrible this year. We got them at the right time. It's about to get real! UT dominates because we're UT!

Then after the game, which is a loss:

I don't know how you expected us to win. Too many athletes on their team. Dooley screwed us. Kiffin screwed us. We can't possibly rely on freshmen! All those injuries!

2016!!!!
 
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