Kendrick vs Richmond

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Remy said:
If walken's post is accurate, they started him at LT 2 years ago, he obviously was not the answer then. He obviously was not the answer last year when Kerbyson manned up and was serviceable as an LT even though not his actual position as Richmond was recruited over Kendrick for LT but was not ready as a true freshman. I have to think akin to KB, this is more about motivating Richmond than it actually is about Kendrick nailing that spot down in that we heard it was Blair and Richmond battling for it in the spring.
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Some of vol ation want to move Blair to TE with Hurd
 
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jps2194 said:
BK was told he would be starter. Of course this can change during camp. But sounds like it is his to lose at this point.
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It would be extremely uncharacteristic for the coaches to tell Brett he WILL be the starter, before fall camp is over.

Much more in character for them to have told him that he has a CHANCE to be the starter, that the job is his to win by competing hard in fall camp.

Now, Brett may have interpreted that as them saying he has the starting job. A lot of folks don't listen as closely as they should to exactly what they're being told. Especially younger folks; that kind of caution comes with hard experience (not a ding on young folks, just a point: you find out often enough in life that what you thought you heard isn't exactly what was said, and you learn to pay closer attention to each word).

Of course, if they said that to Brett, they could also have said the very same thing, just as honestly, to Drew Richmond.

So far as we know, the competition is still wide open. As it should be.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
It would be extremely uncharacteristic for the coaches to tell Brett he WILL be the starter, before fall camp is over.

Much more in character for them to have told him that he has a CHANCE to be the starter, that the job is his to win.

Now, Brett may have interpreted that as them saying he has the starting job. A lot of folks don't listen as closely as they should to exactly what they're being told. Especially younger folks; that kind of caution comes with hard experience (not a ding on young folks, just a point: you find out often enough in life that what you thought you heard isn't exactly what was said, and you learn to pay closer attention to each word).

Of course, if they said that to Brett, they could also have said the very same thing, just as honestly, to Richmond.

So far as we know, the competition is still wide open. As it should be.
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You and Brett on first name basis?
 
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Biopsyman said:
You and Brett on first name basis?
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I call Josh Dobbs Josh...I call Jalen Hurd Jalen...I call Cam Sutton Cam...so I guess I'm on first name basis with all these young men.

[all of whom are 30 years younger than me, btw] :)

p.s. Did you have a point?
 
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Nasavol said:
Don't know, but, neither does anyone else at this point. But, that could be a possibility.
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So why utter it? "Possibility" that what we've seen ( or not seen) out of Kendrick is all he has. Not to discount what his golf crazy brother says...oh hell!...too late. :)
 
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walkenvol said:
Brett Kendrick Bio - University of Tennessee Official Athletic Site

Let me make sure I'm following this argument. So he was a backup as a RS freshman who got one start at LT while the 1st guy was injured. Since he didn't become the LT from that game forward then he obviously can't play LT?

He was the starting RT for the 1st 5 games of his RS soph season till he went down with a knee injury. As a result of this season it also proves he can never play LT?

I don't have a clue who would be the more effective LT myself, but I have seen countless players at UT through the years become somewhat better each year they played there. Not every player is at his full potential the day they show up on campus.

Has BK been improving from year to year - it would appear so.

Has Richmond improved - most likely.

Do the coaches already know who will be the most effective LT for 2016 - looks like they're still trying to figure that out.

Does anyone on VN know - no way in he**.
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Man nothing ever changes. What I believe to be true based on very limited evidence only from the past is still true today. Players don't develop. If he sucked 2 years ago he sucks now.
 
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ToineMac said:
Man nothing ever changes. What I believe to be true based on very limited evidence only from the past is still true today. Players don't develop. If he sucked 2 years ago he sucks now.
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I don't know that he "sucked". Just inconsequential at a time that competent OL were sorely lacking. Fact that he couldn't replace Gilliam after his knee or allow Kerbyson to move to guard. Now suddenly he's this beast who has vast experience over Richmond. Sounds like pumped up camp fiction...maybe to head off another transfer threat.
 
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butchna said:
I don't know that he "sucked". Just inconsequential at a time that competent OL were sorely lacking. Fact that he couldn't replace Gilliam after his knee or allow Kerbyson to move to guard. Now suddenly he's this beast who has vast experience over Richmond. Sounds like pumped up camp fiction...maybe to head off another transfer threat.
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or instead of camp fiction, its the truth..
 
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butchna said:
I don't know that he "sucked". Just inconsequential at a time that competent OL were sorely lacking. Fact that he couldn't replace Gilliam after his knee or allow Kerbyson to move to guard. Now suddenly he's this beast who has vast experience over Richmond. Sounds like pumped up camp fiction...maybe to head off another transfer threat.
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Boom! Bring it
 
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butchna said:
Clear as mud. But if you watch practices and this isn't an observation of his brief forays of playing time I guess we'll wait and see. Faster than Kerbyson isn't necessarily a victory over Richmond...or is he molasses on your stopwatch?
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:lolabove:

You know that's an unfair misrepresentation of my argument Butchna. My only point was that after seeing the strides Kerbyson made in one year, I'm not going to dismiss the idea of Kendrick seeing similar improvement and winning the battle.

I still think Richmond is the starter by season's end and has better upside though.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
I am glad we have so many who are smarter than the coaches, who watch these players closely everyday and are accountable for winning football games. I think we should establish a consensus on VN and demand the coaches following the dictates of all the experts who post here.
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So what was your opinion on the coaches' decision to give Peterman his 1st start in the Swamp? Or how about starting Jumpet against UF last year after watching him consistently unable to make the tackles against OU?
This coaching staff has made bone headed decisions in the past and never admitted they were wrong, I see no difference in those decisions and starting Kendrick over Richmond at LT
 
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#91
Why all the hurting. Kendrick will start a few games get hurt and then Richmond will start.
 
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fade route said:
If a 5* LT can't win the start over someone like Kendrick, then he was never a 5* to begin with.
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Sorry if this has already been addressed, I'm coming in a little late. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Drew Richmond played right tackle in high school. Left tackle is not an easy position to learn. Give the guy some time. He's got all the tools. Go Vols!
 
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AllVol4 said:
Sorry if this has already been addressed, I'm coming in a little late. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Drew Richmond played right tackle in high school. Left tackle is not an easy position to learn. Give the guy some time. He's got all the tools. Go Vols!
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You're exactly right
 
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"Drew never leaves (left tackle), whereas Brett does. Brett can do that because of his knowledge, his experience and all that. That's why he's able to do that."

Richmond went from prized recruit to a redshirt season last fall, but he took a renewed sense of purpose into spring practice. He battled the inconsistency typical of a freshman offensive lineman. He was a better pass blocker than run blocker then, but adding strength over the summer and becoming more comfortable in the offense will help his development.

"From the spring to this fall, the game is starting to slow down for him," Mahoney said. "He's making his calls a lot sooner, seeing things, knowing things. We've talked through scenarios at the end of a play, and he's spitting out the language that we expect to hear. That's been good, so he's really making strides."
Left tackle battle 'under a spotlight' for Tennessee Vols | Times Free Press
 
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Originally Posted by AllVol4 View Post
Sorry if this has already been addressed, I'm coming in a little late. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Drew Richmond played right tackle in high school. Left tackle is not an easy position to learn. Give the guy some time. He's got all the tools. Go Vols!

swchandler1988 said:
You're exactly right
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"Drew never leaves (left tackle), whereas Brett does. Brett can do that because of his knowledge, his experience and all that. That's why he's able to do that."
 
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AllVol4 said:
Sorry if this has already been addressed, I'm coming in a little late. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Drew Richmond played right tackle in high school. Left tackle is not an easy position to learn. Give the guy some time. He's got all the tools. Go Vols!
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Why is the LT position harder to learn than RT? I know it's more important because it is typically the blind side but what is the difference?
 
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The technique is opposite and sometimes player are not as comfortable playing in one side. Hall and Richmond were both right tackles in HS so learning the opposite side can take time although DR had been working that side for a year and should know it. What really makes it harder and thus the huge payday for LT in the NFL is generally that is the side the best DE is on.
Just an FYI I was told by a former offensive line coach at UT that Tiny could only play the left side and JuJuan could play both and JuJuan has played both in the NFL.
 
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Wouldn't the technique be the same just that the LT has to use the left arm to defend the outside and the left arm is not dominant for most people. Defense do use their best DE on that side because it is the blind side. Is it more just refining a players technique to be more dominant with their left arm?
 
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Mick said:
Why is the LT position harder to learn than RT? I know it's more important because it is typically the blind side but what is the difference?
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I had a guy that played for the Vikings once, never a star or starter mind you, explain it to me as follows: It's like writing with your right hand your entire life and suddenly you're asked to write proficiently with your left hand. That always made a little sense to me, especially being an LT your feet and hands have to be quick and with strength as many of the best DEs are trying to speed rush and get around you. You simply have to be very quick with your left first step and arm/hand to get a paw on those guys to disrupt what they're trying to do. Once you've got it down on the left and right sides and know you can do it, it's just a mind shift. But since Richmond was a RS last year, he is anchored at LT this year, to me that is the staff indicating he was always going to be our LT and nothing else which means he has the athletic tools to do it, just needed strength and experience transitioning.
 
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