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Yes, it's an obvious play on words, so you already get where this one is going...

I'll spare you the TL;DR page and a half of raw stats that talk about overall record; record -vs- Top 25 and Top 10 teams; YPC; late throws, overthrows; underthrows; and just plain bad throws; etc. If you want to read it for yourself, it's not all that hard to find. It's easy to parse stats to find numbers you like, so look at them all. That's when the real picture emerges.

JG is one tough character. Physically. Mentally, he's as fragile as an internet Karen. Once you're inside his head, you own him. Plain and simple.

When you're up against a top-tier defense, you are not going to be able to enforce your will. Depending on what your bread & butter is, sometimes you have to pass to open up the run, and sometimes you have to run to open up the pass. Against UGA, it was a given that they would load the box, and make JG beat them through the air.

It took awhile, but it was a perfect strategy. By the 4th Quarter, the defense was gassed, and JG was mentally curled up in the fetal position. This isn't the first time our opponent has dialed up the same strategy, and it worked to near-perfection. UGA gave us 7 points; JG threw 2 really nice TD passes; and then he gave the UGA defense enough points to overcome the 21 points we got between their gift and his good throws. It's a numbers game, and UGA played it wisely.

Right about here is where the JG apologists always show up sounding like an old Johnson 2-stroke outboard: "But but but but but but..."

Okay...fair enough. Name me the SEC team that would gladly swap their QB for JG. I'll hang up and listen.....

You can blame this one on Chaney, the OL, Pruitt, the officials, COVID-19, or Toyota gas pedals. Whatever makes you feel better. But the bottom line is that once UGA figured out JG, the game was effectively over. Again, we've seen this strategy play out to our opponents advantage before. Many times over.

JG is not going to take UT to the next level. But I wouldn't replace him, just yet...

UT should be able to beat UK despite JG, and we're not going to beat Bama with anybody we've got at QB, so use these next weeks to shore up JG as best you can, and quietly start figuring out who your best QB is. After the Bama game, make the switch. It's not like UT is going to win the SEC this year anyway, so use the rest of this season to get the next QB some valuable playing time, and start next year with one or two QB's who already have some SEC experience under their belt.

Sometimes, you just have to take your lumps and move on. Such is the case with UT Football and Jarrett Guarantano. The only way he gets to the NFL is if Cleveland decides to make drafting Johnny Manziel the second-stupidest thing they've ever done. As for UT, if he comes back next year and touches anything other than a clipboard, then Pruitt and Chaney need to be shown the door. I don't care what your resume' is...if you can't field a serviceable SEC QB in 4 (or 3) years, you're out of your league.

Good enough is no longer good enough. This is a much better team than it was when Pruitt was hired. It lacks only that one essential cog to make the machine run smoothly. JG is not that cog. We are at the point where we need an SEC-caliber QB, and JG is not that QB. He never was, and he never will be. As I am so fond of saying when confronted with the obvious, it is what it is.

Go Vols.
 
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I will say that all our opponents next year are going to be very sorry to see JG graduate next year. They may have to figure out a different strategy.
 
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Yes, it's an obvious play on words, so you already get where this one is going...

I'll spare you the TL;DR page and a half of raw stats that talk about overall record; record -vs- Top 25 and Top 10 teams; YPC; late throws, overthrows; underthrows; and just plain bad throws; etc. If you want to read it for yourself, it's not all that hard to find. It's easy to parse stats to find numbers you like, so look at them all. That's when the real picture emerges.

JG is one tough character. Physically. Mentally, he's as fragile as an internet Karen. Once you're inside his head, you own him. Plain and simple.

When you're up against a top-tier defense, you are not going to be able to enforce your will. Depending on what your bread & butter is, sometimes you have to pass to open up the run, and sometimes you have to run to open up the pass. Against UGA, it was a given that they would load the box, and make JG beat them through the air.

It took awhile, but it was a perfect strategy. By the 4th Quarter, the defense was gassed, and JG was mentally curled up in the fetal position. This isn't the first time our opponent has dialed up the same strategy, and it worked to near-perfection. UGA gave us 7 points; JG threw 2 really nice TD passes; and then he gave the UGA defense enough points to overcome the 21 points we got between their gift and his good throws. It's a numbers game, and UGA played it wisely.

Right about here is where the JG apologists always show up sounding like an old Johnson 2-stroke outboard: "But but but but but but..."

Okay...fair enough. Name me the SEC team that would gladly swap their QB for JG. I'll hang up and listen.....

You can blame this one on Chaney, the OL, Pruitt, the officials, COVID-19, or Toyota gas pedals. Whatever makes you feel better. But the bottom line is that once UGA figured out JG, the game was effectively over. Again, we've seen this strategy play out to our opponents advantage before. Many times over.

JG is not going to take UT to the next level. But I wouldn't replace him, just yet...

UT should be able to beat UK despite JG, and we're not going to beat Bama with anybody we've got at QB, so use these next weeks to shore up JG as best you can, and quietly start figuring out who your best QB is. After the Bama game, make the switch. It's not like UT is going to win the SEC this year anyway, so use the rest of this season to get the next QB some valuable playing time, and start next year with one or two QB's who already have some SEC experience under their belt.

Sometimes, you just have to take your lumps and move on. Such is the case with UT Football and Jarrett Guarantano. The only way he gets to the NFL is if Cleveland decides to make drafting Johnny Manziel the second-stupidest thing they've ever done. As for UT, if he comes back next year and touches anything other than a clipboard, then Pruitt and Chaney need to be shown the door. I don't care what your resume' is...if you can't field a serviceable SEC QB in 4 (or 3) years, you're out of your league.

Good enough is no longer good enough. This is a much better team than it was when Pruitt was hired. It lacks only that one essential cog to make the machine run smoothly. JG is not that cog. We are at the point where we need an SEC-caliber QB, and JG is not that QB. He never was, and he never will be. As I am so fond of saying when confronted with the obvious, it is what it is.

Go Vols.

I agree w replacing JG sooner than later if our goal is to compete for championships in the future. We will be replacing most of our line in two years and two of our start def players too.
Hopefully w refill recruit 4 and five star players-it matters!
But must have a Good QB, o e they can throw b/t the numbers. All
Our passes are on the perimeter as Chaney doesn’t trust our QB.
We lose today regardless but at some point we Ned to find a QB vs waiting til next yr.

Just my opinion
 
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Yes, it's an obvious play on words, so you already get where this one is going...

I'll spare you the TL;DR page and a half of raw stats that talk about overall record; record -vs- Top 25 and Top 10 teams; YPC; late throws, overthrows; underthrows; and just plain bad throws; etc. If you want to read it for yourself, it's not all that hard to find. It's easy to parse stats to find numbers you like, so look at them all. That's when the real picture emerges.

JG is one tough character. Physically. Mentally, he's as fragile as an internet Karen. Once you're inside his head, you own him. Plain and simple.

When you're up against a top-tier defense, you are not going to be able to enforce your will. Depending on what your bread & butter is, sometimes you have to pass to open up the run, and sometimes you have to run to open up the pass. Against UGA, it was a given that they would load the box, and make JG beat them through the air.

It took awhile, but it was a perfect strategy. By the 4th Quarter, the defense was gassed, and JG was mentally curled up in the fetal position. This isn't the first time our opponent has dialed up the same strategy, and it worked to near-perfection. UGA gave us 7 points; JG threw 2 really nice TD passes; and then he gave the UGA defense enough points to overcome the 21 points we got between their gift and his good throws. It's a numbers game, and UGA played it wisely.

Right about here is where the JG apologists always show up sounding like an old Johnson 2-stroke outboard: "But but but but but but..."

Okay...fair enough. Name me the SEC team that would gladly swap their QB for JG. I'll hang up and listen.....

You can blame this one on Chaney, the OL, Pruitt, the officials, COVID-19, or Toyota gas pedals. Whatever makes you feel better. But the bottom line is that once UGA figured out JG, the game was effectively over. Again, we've seen this strategy play out to our opponents advantage before. Many times over.

JG is not going to take UT to the next level. But I wouldn't replace him, just yet...

UT should be able to beat UK despite JG, and we're not going to beat Bama with anybody we've got at QB, so use these next weeks to shore up JG as best you can, and quietly start figuring out who your best QB is. After the Bama game, make the switch. It's not like UT is going to win the SEC this year anyway, so use the rest of this season to get the next QB some valuable playing time, and start next year with one or two QB's who already have some SEC experience under their belt.

Sometimes, you just have to take your lumps and move on. Such is the case with UT Football and Jarrett Guarantano. The only way he gets to the NFL is if Cleveland decides to make drafting Johnny Manziel the second-stupidest thing they've ever done. As for UT, if he comes back next year and touches anything other than a clipboard, then Pruitt and Chaney need to be shown the door. I don't care what your resume' is...if you can't field a serviceable SEC QB in 4 (or 3) years, you're out of your league.

Good enough is no longer good enough. This is a much better team than it was when Pruitt was hired. It lacks only that one essential cog to make the machine run smoothly. JG is not that cog. We are at the point where we need an SEC-caliber QB, and JG is not that QB. He never was, and he never will be. As I am so fond of saying when confronted with the obvious, it is what it is.

Go Vols.
That is the definition of TL;DR.

Do you have the cliff notes?
 
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So if TN will win despite QB play why leave him in for KY and let him lose a big game? You’re choosing to lose on purpose despite his poor paying and waiting until after a big game to put a new one in rather than breaking him in against KY.
 
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So if TN will win despite QB play why leave him in for KY and let him lose a big game? You’re choosing to lose on purpose despite his poor paying and waiting until after a big game to put a new one in rather than breaking him in against KY.

Good point. My thought was not to risk a new QB against Bama, and taking the time to prep a new QB, but right now LK is making them look mortal, so....

I'll defer to Winston Churchill, who said "That which must be done eventually should be done immediately."

So, make the change. In any event, I think we have a new starting Qb against, if not before, the Arkansas game.

Go Vols.
 
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I mean if Alabama beats uga next week and we beat KY, won’t we be tied for 1st in the East?

I expect Pruitt to play all three qbs similar to last season at some point this year. Alabama always struggles with a running qb
 
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I mean if Alabama beats uga next week and we beat KY, won’t we be tied for 1st in the East?

I expect Pruitt to play all three qbs similar to last season at some point this year. Alabama always struggles with a running qb

Depends on which way he is running.
 
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Never thought I'd say that but Bama has defensive woes to say the least. That always gives you a chance. Might no he a good one but there's a better chance than I thought
There's no way we can score with Bama, Florida and most likely A&M. Kentucky may very well beat us next week unless we can run against them.
 
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There's no way we can score with Bama, Florida and most likely A&M. Kentucky may very well beat us next week unless we can run against them.

But I've been told today our defense is great 🙄 surely we can stop those teams a few times right
 
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Yes, it's an obvious play on words, so you already get where this one is going...

I'll spare you the TL;DR page and a half of raw stats that talk about overall record; record -vs- Top 25 and Top 10 teams; YPC; late throws, overthrows; underthrows; and just plain bad throws; etc. If you want to read it for yourself, it's not all that hard to find. It's easy to parse stats to find numbers you like, so look at them all. That's when the real picture emerges.

JG is one tough character. Physically. Mentally, he's as fragile as an internet Karen. Once you're inside his head, you own him. Plain and simple.

When you're up against a top-tier defense, you are not going to be able to enforce your will. Depending on what your bread & butter is, sometimes you have to pass to open up the run, and sometimes you have to run to open up the pass. Against UGA, it was a given that they would load the box, and make JG beat them through the air.

It took awhile, but it was a perfect strategy. By the 4th Quarter, the defense was gassed, and JG was mentally curled up in the fetal position. This isn't the first time our opponent has dialed up the same strategy, and it worked to near-perfection. UGA gave us 7 points; JG threw 2 really nice TD passes; and then he gave the UGA defense enough points to overcome the 21 points we got between their gift and his good throws. It's a numbers game, and UGA played it wisely.

Right about here is where the JG apologists always show up sounding like an old Johnson 2-stroke outboard: "But but but but but but..."

Okay...fair enough. Name me the SEC team that would gladly swap their QB for JG. I'll hang up and listen.....

You can blame this one on Chaney, the OL, Pruitt, the officials, COVID-19, or Toyota gas pedals. Whatever makes you feel better. But the bottom line is that once UGA figured out JG, the game was effectively over. Again, we've seen this strategy play out to our opponents advantage before. Many times over.

JG is not going to take UT to the next level. But I wouldn't replace him, just yet...

UT should be able to beat UK despite JG, and we're not going to beat Bama with anybody we've got at QB, so use these next weeks to shore up JG as best you can, and quietly start figuring out who your best QB is. After the Bama game, make the switch. It's not like UT is going to win the SEC this year anyway, so use the rest of this season to get the next QB some valuable playing time, and start next year with one or two QB's who already have some SEC experience under their belt.

Sometimes, you just have to take your lumps and move on. Such is the case with UT Football and Jarrett Guarantano. The only way he gets to the NFL is if Cleveland decides to make drafting Johnny Manziel the second-stupidest thing they've ever done. As for UT, if he comes back next year and touches anything other than a clipboard, then Pruitt and Chaney need to be shown the door. I don't care what your resume' is...if you can't field a serviceable SEC QB in 4 (or 3) years, you're out of your league.

Good enough is no longer good enough. This is a much better team than it was when Pruitt was hired. It lacks only that one essential cog to make the machine run smoothly. JG is not that cog. We are at the point where we need an SEC-caliber QB, and JG is not that QB. He never was, and he never will be. As I am so fond of saying when confronted with the obvious, it is what it is.

Go Vols.
This is the best post all night
 
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#21
But I've been told today our defense is great 🙄 surely we can stop those teams a few times right
The defense is good, and getting better. By the end of the season it could very well be on the cusp of great. But against solid defenses we will struggle to score and that will be our achilles heel.
 
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The defense is good, and getting better. By the end of the season it could very well be on the cusp of great. But against solid defenses we will struggle to score and that will be our achilles heel.


Well the best defense we play the rest of the year is either Arkansas or Auburn lol
 
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