Just doing some quick comparisons

#51
#51
A biased eye test….
I find it humorous that, when people refer to the “eye test”, it’s usually only focused on offense. In our two games, we held Florida to an average of 58.5 ppg. Even in that disastrous game in Gainesville, we held them to 12 points below their average. For some more “eye test” perspective, Florida scored 104 points on bama today. They scored a total of 117 points in two games against Tennessee.
 
#52
#52
Florida already beat Bama with Nelson in Tuscaloosa a week ago.
My post was in response to " Florida dominating Bama " remark about today.
Point was that win gets a less less credit/little less impressive.
I already knew they have played previously.
The rematch was neck and neck until Nelson went out.
 
#53
#53
you gotta think winning the SEC Tourney matters - that and a head to head advantage.

gotta win the game to find out
If UT wins and gets the 1 seed, it sure does breathe new life into the SEC tourney for seasons to come imo, as it will be the first time in a while that it matters for seeding. Would be a good thing for conference tourneys , I'd think. Helps push back on what so many of us have been saying about these things. I can't imagine UT winning and not being a 1. I also still can't get over losing to Kentucky.
 
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#54
#54
My post was in response to " Florida dominating Bama " remark about today.
Point was that win gets a less less credit/little less impressive.
I already knew they have played previously.
The rematch was neck and neck until Nelson went out.
Nelson isn’t worth +22. UF is 4-1 against the other 3, they’re deserving of a 1 seed and it’s not debatable.
 
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#55
My post was in response to " Florida dominating Bama " remark about today.
Point was that win gets a less less credit/little less impressive.
I already knew they have played previously.
The rematch was neck and neck until Nelson went out.
It was close when Nelson went out but I still think Florida beats them handily with him not getting hurt.
 
#56
#56
Nelson isn’t worth +22. UF is 4-1 against the other 3, they’re deserving of a 1 seed and it’s not debatable.
When did I say they weren't deserving of a # 1 seed? They are, but so are we.
Moreover, we beat them tomorrow we would have the better resume and own the H2H battle.
 
#58
#58
It was close when Nelson went out but I still think Florida beats them handily with him not getting hurt.

It was an instant replay of Tuscaloosa only quicker in the 2nd half. The pace of the game and Florida's depth wore down Alabama.

What people should be paying attention to is Sears and how he was totally shut down before Bama waved the white flag and pulled him.
 
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#60
Florida is very good. They have a ton of quad 2 wins as well. Honestly both should be 1 seeds if Big 12 teams would have handled home court and not choked games away to Houston.
 
#61
#61
I will take the top 2 seed or a 1 seed nothing more nothing less and nothing else.
 
#62
#62
Florida is very good. They have a ton of quad 2 wins as well. Honestly both should be 1 seeds if Big 12 teams would have handled home court and not choked games away to Houston.
But they didn't. It's like the announcer was saying on t.v today, if the Q1 and Q2 system isn't going to necessarily be used for what it was intended for then why even use it?
 
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#63
But they didn't. It's like the announcer was saying on t.v today, if the Q1 and Q2 system isn't going to necessarily be used for what it was intended for then why even use it?

First of all, I want to be consistent and clear and say I think the winner should be the #1 seed.

So, with that said, IMO, not all quad 1 wins are alike.

I can't look at Florida's quad 1 win over Auburn and the quad 1 win over Arkansas as the same. That's why I do think it makes sense to emphasize the wins over the other top teams in the league that are likely #1 and #2 seeds.

A Florida win tomorrow would make them 5-1 in such games and IMO is a more impressive accomplishment than anyone in the country except for Auburn as one has to tip your cap to them that they played EVERYBODY.

A Tennessee win makes them 4-2 in those games (and Florida would also be 4-2) and as all of you have accurately said, Tennessee's overall schedule is better and they'd have the head to head.
 
#64
#64
Florida has beaten Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee.

They're about to beat Alabama again.

The big problem for Tennessee at this point is the eye test is going to matter. I've been worried my being an alumnus and fan was clouding my judgment, but I'm past that. Florida's the best team in the SEC. I'd argue they're the best team in the country.

None of this means they won't lose tomorrow or in the NCAA tournament, but I've seen enough to come to that conclusion.

The committee may have as well
Still going to feel this way after they are 1-2 vs the Vols?

Don’t forget that of the top 4 SEC teams, Florida has played by far the easiest schedule.

And don’t forget that Todd Golden is your coach….that’s worth an early tournament exit if anything is.

All that bring said…..Florida is very good.

Edit:saw your post at the same time and I think you answered this well. I agree with you.
 
#65
#65
First of all, I want to be consistent and clear and say I think the winner should be the #1 seed

Ha...you had better say that after all that persuading you did before.
I don't think you thought this match-up/scenario would actually happen. If I am being honest tho, neither did I.
 
#66
#66
Ha...you had better say that after all that persuading you did before.
I don't think you thought this match-up/scenario would actually happen. If I am being honest tho, neither did I.

I wrote in one thread (on Friday) that I think we are seeing each other on Sunday.

But, generally speaking, you don’t want to look at my bracket when I fill it out. I look bad quickly
 
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#67
#67
Nelson isn’t worth +22. UF is 4-1 against the other 3, they’re deserving of a 1 seed and it’s not debatable.
It is debatable because there is more to a resume than 5 games. I’ll admit that it’s better now, but pre-conference tournament, we really had the better resume. They have two less losses because of their conference schedule. We also have 3 non conference wins that are better than any one of theirs. They have metrics and eye test.
 
#68
#68
Florida is the last 1-seed. The committee isn’t jumping Tennessee to the 1-line tomorrow even if we win.

But when you look at it, Vols have more Q1 wins and with a win tomorrow will have more Q1A wins. Florida is higher in NET and KenPom and some other metrics but when it comes to the Quad system, Vols would have the upper hand IMO.
By my calculation we would have 2 more Quad 1 wins. We can end with 12 to their 10.
 
#70
#70
Correct. And would have 1 more Q1A win than them if we win tomorrow. But the committee will justify whatever decision they want to make
Someone said they don't do the Q1 A Q1B type thing, but I could of swore I read an article where committee members talked about wins in this way? I could be mistaken, tho.
I mean I know they evaluate each win I'm just not sure if they actually have a formula/calculation that is broken down into subsets like that.
Would make sense if they did. Seems like it would make it easier to judge each team's record. Mathematically speaking that is.
 
#73
#73
You all absolutely earned it. Your nonconference schedule is the only knock against you but I’d say 3-0 against Bama and Auburn on the road offsets that. If we were only 1 loss worse than you tomorrow would matter but you’re 2 games better. That’s too much.

Gotta be a problem if we have two head to head victories in the past few weeks. Do they really want to tee up those questions? Especially with our win over the purported top seed in the dance.

I would be happy with best available 2 seed with no west coast trips involved, BUT…….,.,,,,,,that low hanging fruit would be out there IF IF IF WE WIN.
 

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