Josh dobbs

#51
#51
Dobbs inability to consistently throw an accurate football has severely handi capped Deboards offense. Dormady needs to get a look, because if we can't generate some kind of passing game we will be lucky to win 6 games. There was a reason Justin worley was the starting quarterback to begin last season, and the reason was Dobbs is not very good at throwing the football.

Maybe I'm watching a different game than you guys but I have NOT seen an inability to throw by Josh. When we had no choice but to pass on that last possesion against Florida, he threw 3 nice passes. Including that one down the sideline to Kamara that was elite. Sure he misses some throws (the one to Josh Smith stands out the most), but so does every QB. No one is perfect throwing the ball.

What I have NOT seen is this chronic inaccuracy that folks like you rail on. Josh is a very accurate passer when given a chance.

The problem with the pass game is not a lack accuracy by Josh, but rather a lack of attempts. Now we have no idea why this is the case. I think the issues in the o-line are more the reason why we don't pass more than issues with Josh's ability.
 
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#52
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The recievers are getting open, Dobbs is slow to make decisions when he actually gets the chance to throw down field, and is inaccurate when he does finally throw it. He missed Josh Smith on the sideline, and smith didn't have anyone within 5 yards of him. I like Dobbs ability to run, but it seems like most people on here would rather blame everything else but Dobbs for the struggles of the passing game. Dormady needs some snaps against Arkansas.

Or maybe we're not gonna base our entire opinion on the pass game based on one pass. Yes, you're right. Dobbs missed that throw to Josh Smith. But what other throws did he miss? I mean he did throw 17 passes.

What I do remember from the game was when we went down 28-27 with 1:26 left, Josh completed 3 passes (including a dime to Kamara). He scrambled on another play. And got us in position to win the game even with chronic mismanagement of the clock and penalties.

Dobbs should be the last person you suggest to take off the field. He's been our best player after Hurd. If you wanna replace guys on offense with true freshmen, how about the o-line?

I'd like to see Drew Richmond, Jack Jones, and Chance Hall get a chance. I'm sure they can't be worse than the guys we have out there right now.
 
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Ha!
Dobbs threw the staff under the bus in that interview at the very end. It's hard to hear and very subtle but a reporter asked Dobbs about the passing game and wide receiver rotation. The question at the VERY end of the interview is not mic'd but you can hear it.

Dobbs: "There is no lack of confidence in the pass game". "We know what we have to do to execute and we know how to execute".

Reporter: "So you do feel lack of trust is there?"

Dobbs: "Yes"
 
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Josh Dobbs is turning out be to Tennessee what Munchie Legaux was for Butch at Cincinnati. "Munchie Legaux was a dual threat Junior QB that could not complete a pass for his life and made terrible decisions. He had games where he would be 5-16 with 2 INTs in the first half and Butch didn't make the change." I don't think Butch is letting Dobbs throw down field because of the same issue he had with Munchie Legaux.

The only mistakes Dobbs is making is not holding the ball when he does run.
 
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Maybe I'm watching a different game than you guys but I have NOT seen an inability to throw by Josh. When we had no choice but to pass on that last possesion against Florida, he threw 3 nice passes. Including that one down the sideline to Kamara that was elite. Sure he misses some throws (the one to Josh Smith stands out the most), but so does every QB. No one is perfect throwing the ball.

What I have NOT seen is this chronic inaccuracy that folks like you rail on. Josh is a very accurate passer when given a chance.

The problem with the pass game is not a lack accuracy by Josh, but rather a lack of attempts. Now we have no idea why this is the case. I think the issues in the o-line are more the reason why we don't pass more than issues with Josh's ability.
I agree. He's not Peyton Manning accurate but he has thread the needle many times.
 
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Josh Dobbs is turning out be to Tennessee what Munchie Legaux was for Butch at Cincinnati. "Munchie Legaux was a dual threat Junior QB that could not complete a pass for his life and made terrible decisions. He had games where he would be 5-16 with 2 INTs in the first half and Butch didn't make the change." I don't think Butch is letting Dobbs throw down field because of the same issue he had with Munchie Legaux.

Give mcelwain or the other 12 coaches in the sec this offense and you would be saying " we need a qb like dobbs. That's the kind of offense we need to run" everyone of dobbs throws is into coverage. They have to be thrown perfectly to connect. You see him miss some throws and it amplifies the dobbs can't throw moniker. How do you know? Honestly? How many quick out passes does he throw vertical? Most throws are to the sideline, of which the wr has to outrun his defender. What defensive position has the fastest players? Db. Take an avg db, make him cover a wr and tell him not to worry about the middle of the field. By the time the qb reads the defense because of playaction, the wr will have run himself out of the play. Put that same guy on pig, any route you want to callin middle of the field and pig will get open and be in a position to win. Neither our qb or wr or off line has been put in position to win. Look at stats all you want but until our offense has been given a real opportunity you can't say dobbs can't pass. Losing situation for those guys and they are making the most of it is it's their athletic ability.
 
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Ha!
Dobbs threw the staff under the bus in that interview at the very end. It's hard to hear and very subtle but a reporter asked Dobbs about the passing game and wide receiver rotation. The question at the VERY end of the interview is not mic'd but you can hear it.

Dobbs: "There is no lack of confidence in the pass game". "We know what we have to do to execute and we know how to execute".

Reporter: "So you do feel lack of trust is there?"

Dobbs: "Yes"



After listening to the press conference several times, I think you misquoted the reporters question. He ask do you feel like the trust is there, not lack of trust.

Reporter: "So you do feel like the trust is there?"

Dobbs: "Yes"
 
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All things considered Josh played one helluva game. That was a dominant D-line and stable secondary he was facing. I was proud of his performance. The Gator fans have nothing but respect for him and know they were damn lucky to get the W. Still stings but we are fortunate to have him as our QB moving forward.
 
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Everybody keeps harping on the offense. I think we had enough offense to win. Our defense in not adequate in pressure situations. Bad play calling. We have so many monster DE's, yet we seldom blitz. Our DB's look inept. Our linebackers are like they were in Dooley's day (bad angles, slow). etc.

I was thinking the same thing on us not blitzing! What's up with that?!

4th down for whaaaaaaat? :eek:lol:
 
#61
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I'm not sure that particular pass really highlights Dobbs' passing ability

I think he is being blamed a little too much, that play cost us 4 points, I believe we settled for a field goal and subsequently the game
 
#62
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They let Dobbs pass more last year than they are this year. I think it's because our run game is so good. Dobbs threw for over 300 on Carolina. Arkansas is last in the sec in pass defense so if he can't throw on them it's not good.
 
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#63
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I think our QB gets a little nervous at times. Not some much in the Florida game. They did enough to win that one. OU you could tell Dobbs was rattled. The game may still be a little fast for him against better teams anyway.

He did pass more last year. That one is hard to figure out. They're going too have to find more balance or they're not going to have a chance at beating Georgia or Alabama. Arky's defense isn't that good. Better start fixing it this week.
 
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The truth is, we still don't know what he can do.
He was 63% last year but only faced 1 great defense.

He went 4 of 4 (iirc) on the last drive against UF but they were in prevent defense.
He was 6 of 13 against their regular defense. That's less than 50%
IDK if it's Dobbs, the oline , the receivers or combination but under 50%
is not what you want to gain trust in the passing game.
 
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All things considered Josh played one helluva game. That was a dominant D-line and stable secondary he was facing. I was proud of his performance. The Gator fans have nothing but respect for him and know they were damn lucky to get the W. Still stings but we are fortunate to have him as our QB moving forward.

If we hadn't blown the game, he would have been the big winner. He pulled off a spin move that faked the defender out of his jock! A little careless with the ball, but he is not the problem or any of the other players. These blown games are selling them short too! they work too hard for that and play well enough to be undefeated, but the coaches mistakes have put them in a bad positions and made it hard for them to close games and get wins.
 
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The thing is, I have nothing against Dobbs. I think he's an bright young man who really works hard and is a great athlete. The problem is that the staff is turning him from a QB to basically a RB/WR. It's ok to mix it up every now & then but the staff is limiting Dobb's abilities and that's a major coaching concern.
 
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Dobbs was recruited as a QB, now if he isn't the best passer, we need to set them up with the run. He does this very well. I agree, he could be a solid QB if used wisely...see that kid from Florida!
 
#68
#68
After listening to the press conference several times, I think you misquoted the reporters question. He ask do you feel like the trust is there, not lack of trust.

Reporter: "So you do feel like the trust is there?"

Dobbs: "Yes"

Just relistened to it 3 times. I'm hearing "lack of trust there". Given the LACK of a passing game it fits the narrative better.
 
#69
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Something changed between last year and this year, and it didn't change in a good way. Somebody has told Josh that if things don't look quite right we don't want you to run it...just throw the ball into the sidelines and we'll take the loss of the down.

How many times did Astro throw the ball away last year when he was playing? How many times has he thrown it away this year?

I just don't understand this.

And I love watching him RUN.
 

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