Josh Dobbs - NFL Draft thread (merged)

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KBVol said:
I'm SURE Watson has led his team to a 28-2 record, 2 championship game appearances and national title the last two seasons....having to play and beat the very best teams in the country to do so.
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Vince Young did the same things.

How did that work out in the NFL?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Deshaun Watson is not an accurate passer. Just because Mike Williams brings down incredible catches every game doesn't make Watson accurate. The kid throws just as many inaccurate balls as Dobbs. He just bad better receivers that would make amazing plays on the ball.
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Dear God.....
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Deshaun Watson is not an accurate passer. Just because Mike Williams brings down incredible catches every game doesn't make Watson accurate. The kid throws just as many inaccurate balls as Dobbs. He just had better receivers that would make amazing plays on the ball.
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I told you not to say it, because it's freaking stupid, and you did it anyway. No one can help you if you won't help yourself.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Vince Young is more comparable to Josh Dobbs than Watson
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Nope. Dobbs was never the runner up for the heisman like Watson and Young. Dobbs never won the national title over an unbeaten juggernaut like Watson and Young. Dobbs is also not gonna be drafted top 5 in the draft like Watson and Young.

Deshaun Watson's career track so far is identical to Vince Young.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Vince Young did the same things.

How did that work out in the NFL?
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No he didn't. Young had one good year as a junior, which didn't sniff what Deshaun did over the course of 3 years. Only thing they did similarly was dominate a national title game...actually, check that, Deshaun dominated 2 of them.

Vince was an petulant, immature prima donna, one trick pony who couldn't adjust to an NFL that adjusted to him and shut him down. Watson comes across as a poised, in control, mature young qb who knows how to lead and win. The anti-Vince Young.

Not sure why you hate Watson, other than you think someone pointing out how good he is somehow takes away from Josh, which is silly. Josh had a very good career at Tennessee. Deshaun simply had a better one and accomplished much more.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Nope. Dobbs was never the runner up for the heisman like Watson and Young. Dobbs never won the national title over an unbeaten juggernaut like Watson and Young. Dobbs is also not gonna be drafted top 5 in the draft like Watson and Young.

Deshaun Watson's career track so far is identical to Vince Young.
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Lol. Not even close.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
College stars like Watson always flame out in the NFL.

Cam Newton is the only outlier and even his career has been up and down.
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Lol, there are definitely instances of college stars flaming out in the NFL, but to say always is ridiculous. 3-time pro bowler and Heisman trophy winner Carson Palmer says hello for one just off the top of my head. The fact of the matter is a lot of players flame out, and just because they were a college star does not ensure them flaming out
 
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volsandpirates said:
Lol, there are definitely instances of college stars flaming out in the NFL, but to say always is ridiculous. 3-time pro bowler and Heisman trophy winner Carson Palmer says hello for one just off the top of my head. The fact of the matter is a lot of players flame out, and just because they were a college star does not ensure them flaming out
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His argument is so absurd at times it's like he's arguing being a very good college player is a negative.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Nope. Dobbs was never the runner up for the heisman like Watson and Young. Dobbs never won the national title over an unbeaten juggernaut like Watson and Young. Dobbs is also not gonna be drafted top 5 in the draft like Watson and Young.

Deshaun Watson's career track so far is identical to Vince Young.
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Talking about skillset and you know, actual comparable traits in their respective game.

Watson is miles better as a passer than Young ever was.
 
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with all the names being thrown around in this part of the thread, you know what i get out of it?

YOU DON"T REALLY KNOW, TIL YOU KNOW.
 
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volsandpirates said:
Lol, there are definitely instances of college stars flaming out in the NFL, but to say always is ridiculous. 3-time pro bowler and Heisman trophy winner Carson Palmer says hello for one just off the top of my head. The fact of the matter is a lot of players flame out, and just because they were a college star does not ensure them flaming out
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Lawrence Taylor
Larry Fitzgerald
Michael Irvin
Randy Moss
LaDainian Tomlinson
Eric Dickerson
Favre
Barry Sanders
Tony Dorsett
Charles Woodson
Earl Campbell
John Elway

I could go on for a week.....half the names on this list he has never heard of.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Deshaun Watson is not an accurate passer. Just because Mike Williams brings down incredible catches every game doesn't make Watson accurate. The kid throws just as many inaccurate balls as Dobbs. He just had better receivers that would make amazing plays on the ball.
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So, what you're saying is, the only reason Watson was considered an accurate passer at Clemson is because Mike Williams caught all those inaccurate balls that Watson just threw up for grabs?

In 2015, Watson threw for 4100 yards and 35 touchdowns while completing 67.8% of his passes......Williams caught 2 passes for 20 yards that year.....please square up those two facts for us, would you? How does this prove/support your assertion? Those were 2 hellacious catches for 20 yards by Williams that saved Watson's career.
 
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KBVol said:
In 2015, Watson threw for 4100 yards and 35 touchdowns while completing 67.8% of his passes......Williams caught 2 passes for 20 yards that year.....please square up those two facts for us, would? How does this prove/support your assertion?
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BearCat204 said:
More so this draft than any other that I can remember
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on the qb's, yeah. it's a crap shoot. if these teams are smart, they all stick to their guns, and pass on the qbs until it makes more sense to do so.

in reality, there should only be 2 taken, cle @ 12 and HOU @ 25. everybody else that "needs" one, can get one of these guys later, if they keep their heads and don't do something stupid.
 
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jakez4ut said:
on the qb's, yeah. it's a crap shoot. if these teams are smart, they all stick to their guns, and pass on the qbs until it makes more sense to do so.

in reality, there should only be 2 taken, cle @ 12 and HOU @ 25. everybody else that "needs" one, can get one of these guys later, if they keep their heads and don't do something stupid.
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Because none of them jumps out to you as being capable of being a franchise guy.............and everyone is desperately looking for one of those who are.
 
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jakez4ut said:
on the qb's, yeah. it's a crap shoot. if these teams are smart, they all stick to their guns, and pass on the qbs until it makes more sense to do so.

in reality, there should only be 2 taken, cle @ 12 and HOU @ 25. everybody else that "needs" one, can get one of these guys later, if they keep their heads and don't do something stupid.
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My thoughts exactly. Why reach for a QB with question marks with a high pick, when you can take a QB with similar question marks in the second or even third round.
 
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KBVol said:
So, what you're saying is, the only reason Watson was considered an accurate passer at Clemson is because Mike Williams caught all those inaccurate balls that Watson just threw up for grabs?

In 2015, Watson threw for 4100 yards and 35 touchdowns while completing 67.8% of his passes......Williams caught 2 passes for 20 yards that year.....please square up those two facts for us, would you? How does this prove/support your assertion? Those were 2 hellacious catches for 20 yards by Williams that saved Watson's career.
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He had other great playmakers. Mike Williams was just one of many. Did you already forget that incredible catch Jordan Leggett made on that inaccurate throw in the final seconds of the national title game before the game winning pass?

Deshaun Watson was basically the opposite of Dobbs. He had his receivers bail him out constantly with his inaccurate throws. While Dobbs had perfectly thrown accurate passes dropped by his receivers constantly.

The NFL (as usual) will even this out. Expect Deshaun Watson to be a Vince Young type bust. He'll have one or two good seasons before flaming out. While Josh Dobbs will have a career like Randall Cunningham. He'll start off slow playing behind Philip Rivers. But in 2-3 years he will be among the best QBs in the NFL and will carry the LA Chargers on his back as a franchise for many years.
 
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