Josh Dobbs (merged)

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dobre_shunka said:
Per Jim Wexell, publisher Steel City Insider at 247Sports:

From the notebook of a sportswriter who isn't sure you should buy the raves of the just-completed Steelers spring in shorts, but is certain you should buy this:

* Mason Rudolph probably has the weakest arm of the four quarterbacks. It's apparent when they're throwing outs. But he throws a beautiful, arching, accurate deep ball, has good mobility for a big pocket passer, and has the kind of enthusiasm and thirst for learning that will make him an effective leader.

* It's not inaccurate to say he could become the No. 2 this season, but I can't imagine anyone with the team saying that at this point -- unless they're buried in their work and didn't watch any college football before being surprised by what he's shown this spring.

* As with return specialists, the preseason games will determine the quarterback pecking order.
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LMAO I don't know who this clown is from 247, but the Steelers didn't draft Rudolph to be a camp arm. Jones is terrrible, Dobbs is worse. Ghee, wonder who #2 will be?
 
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HoptownVol said:
LMAO I don't know who this clown is from 247, but the Steelers didn't draft Rudolph to be a camp arm. Jones is terrrible, Dobbs is worse. Ghee, wonder who #2 will be?
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Where did he say he say Rudolph was a camp arm? I must have missed that quote because it wasn't in what i posted. Actually if read point in bold it even says its not impossible for Rudolph to be #2 but its unlikely the team feels that way right now.

I'm sure you know far more than a local beat writer who has actually attended the OTA's and mini camp. Someone who has actually seen Rudolph throw balls live, spoken with the coaches and followed the team for years. Yeah, he's the clown.
 
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bamawriter said:
Both Dobbs and Hogan make the list. Fantastic.
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Now it won't be a surprise to me but it'll be a pretty cool story for the media to run this fall about how Dobbs went from potentially being cut to NFL MVP candidate.

All these silly articles are doing is setting up a Tom Brady/Kurt Warner like story this fall. Nothing else.
 
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You thought Dobbs' arms were impressive, check out his legs?

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When you got veins popping out of your calves and thighs, you know you're an explosive athlete.

Its gonna be scary how good Dobbs will be this season. I'm pretty confident he'll finish 2nd to Aaron Rodgers for NFL MVP.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You thought Dobbs' arms were impressive, check out his legs?

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When you got veins popping out of your calves and thighs, you know you're an explosive athlete.

Its gonna be scary how good Dobbs will be this season. I'm pretty confident he'll finish 2nd to Aaron Rodgers for NFL MVP.
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So, you are hoping Big Ben gets hurt to make your prediction come true. Nice
 
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bamawriter said:
Your point is well-made, Shunka.

But I think the writing is on the wall when it comes to Dobbs. If the Steelers aren't confident in making Rudolph the #2 by the end of camp, then Dobbs is 100% useless to them. There is no way that the QB depth chart will be #1 Roethlisberger #2 Dobbs #3 Rudolph. Dobbs' only chance is for them to conclude the Rudolph is ready to play if needed, and that Dobbs will suffice as a cheap backstop in case of disaster. If they don't leave camp with enough confidence in Rudolph, then Jones is their only #2 option.
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So you're basically saying there is ZERO CHANCE Dobbs outplays Landry Jones for the #2 job?

I must say I find it humorous how you guys are all writing off Dobbs before a second of pre-season action. We've seen QBs improve before from Year 1 to Year 2. Before last pre-season a lot of people were confident he would beat out Landry Jones. So because he didn't do it as a rookie now he has no chance?

I know you guys desperately want me to be wrong about Dobbs. I know you guys think I'll be unbearable if Dobbs becomes what I've said he would becomne like Kamara became exactly what I said he would become. But just be real with me for a second. How can you say Dobbs only chance to make the roster is if Rudolph is the #2? Why can't Dobbs beat both of them out.

This might be a news bulletin to ya'll but Mason Rudolph is only a 3rd round pick. And Landry Jones is also a 4th round pick. Its not like the Steelers invested 1st round money into those guys and Dobbs is working up hill against them. All 3 guys are mid-round picks with the same shot at winning the backup job. Josh just needs to prove he's better than them. He doesn't need anything else.
 
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vols 30 said:
So, you are hoping Big Ben gets hurt to make your prediction come true. Nice
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I don't root for injuries, I just know it gonna happen.

First of all, Big Ben is injury prone. He's been hurt almost every year. Last year was kind of an outlier where he stayed completely healthy. Big Ben typically misses games with injury every year.

Secondly, its just Dobbs time. I just know next year will be his breakout season. One way or another he'll get on the field and he will show out. You guys are over here talking about him making the team. I find those discussions hilarious. I'm worried about whether he'll win the Super Bowl next year. A player of Dobbs caliber is destined for greatness. I have zero doubt in my mind on that.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't root for injuries, I just know it gonna happen.

First of all, Big Ben is injury prone. He's been hurt almost every year. Last year was kind of an outlier where he stayed completely healthy. Big Ben typically misses games with injury every year.

Secondly, its just Dobbs time. I just know next year will be his breakout season. One way or another he'll get on the field and he will show out. You guys are over here talking about him making the team. I find those discussions hilarious. I'm worried about whether he'll win the Super Bowl next year. A player of Dobbs caliber is destined for greatness. I have zero doubt in my mind on that.
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Big Ben has also played through almost every injury there is. Big Ben isn’t sitting unless he truly gets the crap beat out of him. And then Rudolph or jones will come in while Dobbs is tending to big bens needs.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So you're basically saying there is ZERO CHANCE Dobbs outplays Landry Jones for the #2 job?

I must say I find it humorous how you guys are all writing off Dobbs before a second of pre-season action. We've seen QBs improve before from Year 1 to Year 2. Before last pre-season a lot of people were confident he would beat out Landry Jones. So because he didn't do it as a rookie now he has no chance?

I know you guys desperately want me to be wrong about Dobbs. I know you guys think I'll be unbearable if Dobbs becomes what I've said he would becomne like Kamara became exactly what I said he would become. But just be real with me for a second. How can you say Dobbs only chance to make the roster is if Rudolph is the #2? Why can't Dobbs beat both of them out.

This might be a news bulletin to ya'll but Mason Rudolph is only a 3rd round pick. And Landry Jones is also a 4th round pick. Its not like the Steelers invested 1st round money into those guys and Dobbs is working up hill against them. All 3 guys are mid-round picks with the same shot at winning the backup job. Josh just needs to prove he's better than them. He doesn't need anything else.
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This has NEVER, probably for anyone on here, been about wanting you to be wrong. There are a number of UT fans on here who can see reality that you can't but would be ok if a UT guy like Dobbs, a good quality person at that, did accomplish even half of the meteoric claims you make. But you calling it doesn't make a lick of sense because you don't know the QB position (or the RB position, OL, etc.). So it's not about wanting you to be wrong, it's knowing that these WILD and OUTLANDISH claims and predictions you make are nothing more than hope as a fan of these guys. Learn about the mechanics of the position, then jump back in.
 
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Grudenator said:
Big Ben has also played through almost every injury there is. Big Ben isn’t sitting unless he truly gets the crap beat out of him. And then Rudolph or jones will come in while Dobbs is tending to big bens needs.
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Big Ben has played all 16 games only 3 times in his 14 seasons. He will likely miss 1-3 games going off his past.
 
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TDawg said:
So it's not about wanting you to be wrong, it's knowing that these WILD and OUTLANDISH claims and predictions you make are nothing more than hope as a fan of these guys. Learn about the mechanics of the position, then jump back in.
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It doesn't take his being a fan...he's wrong sooooo very often about sooooo many things. This board is awash with evidence. Goff/Bosa/Taylor are just some that stick out and get cited often. Guess who this is about?

"He's not a shut down corner. He has poor ball skills. Poor instincts. He will not be a perennial pro bowl caliber player."

That was regarding Jalen Ramsey.
 
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hndog609 said:
It doesn't take his being a fan...he's wrong sooooo very often about sooooo many things. This board is awash with evidence. Goff/Bosa/Taylor are just some that stick out and get cited often. Guess who this is about?

"He's not a shut down corner. He has poor ball skills. Poor instincts. He will not be a perennial pro bowl caliber player."

That was regarding Jalen Ramsey.
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That's true, but I guess my point was most of his huge career predictions in a positive manner are just people he is a fan of.

To your point, good gracious, it wasn't hard to tell Ramsey would be a damn good DB in the league. Never saw that D4H quote until now but come on!!! Poor instincts? Add DB to the positions D4H knows very little about.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So you're basically saying there is ZERO CHANCE Dobbs outplays Landry Jones for the #2 job?

I must say I find it humorous how you guys are all writing off Dobbs before a second of pre-season action. We've seen QBs improve before from Year 1 to Year 2. Before last pre-season a lot of people were confident he would beat out Landry Jones. So because he didn't do it as a rookie now he has no chance?

I know you guys desperately want me to be wrong about Dobbs. I know you guys think I'll be unbearable if Dobbs becomes what I've said he would becomne like Kamara became exactly what I said he would become. But just be real with me for a second. How can you say Dobbs only chance to make the roster is if Rudolph is the #2? Why can't Dobbs beat both of them out.

This might be a news bulletin to ya'll but Mason Rudolph is only a 3rd round pick. And Landry Jones is also a 4th round pick. Its not like the Steelers invested 1st round money into those guys and Dobbs is working up hill against them. All 3 guys are mid-round picks with the same shot at winning the backup job. Josh just needs to prove he's better than them. He doesn't need anything else.
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Actually it has all to do with you being selective about all this.

When a player says a QB YOU said would be great will be "special", you quote it and flaunt it. When a QB YOU said will be good has all kinds of buzz out of mini-camp, you quote it and flaunt it.

But when there is zero buzz about a QB you obsess over, all the talk is how he'll be lucky to even make the roster, and Antonio Brown declares Mason Rudolph will be "special", you straight up ignore it.

And as evidence that you ignore things, Dobbs isn't needing to outplay Jones for the #2, it's for the #3 spot; unless you think you know better than the coaches.
 
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bamawriter said:
At the end of the day I know more about talent than anybody else on this planet.
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OK, that deserves a couple more examples.

A pick he specifically stated he "loved" was Robert Nkemidiche. At this point he cannot be considered anything but a bust.

In the same post he specifically sets aside these players as picks he "hated" and "to be huge busts." Goff (pro bowl), Bosa (#1 in sacks/#6 in tackles for DE since joining the league) and DeForest Buckner (#3 in tackles and 13th in sacks among DT since coming into the league).
 
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YankeeVol said:
Big Ben has played all 16 games only 3 times in his 14 seasons. He will likely miss 1-3 games going off his past.
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Not all the games he has missed are injury related. The past 2 seasons, he didn't start for the week 17 games because playoff seeds had been set and the opponent was the Browns. He also played behind one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL for the first half of his career. He now has one of the best.

When Haley was made coordinator, one of his changes was to keep Roethlisberger from holding the ball so long and absorbing hits. Roethlisberger now has one of the quickest release times in the league.

He's missed fewer games due to injury in recent years than before.
 
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bamawriter said:
At the end of the day I know more about talent than anybody else on this planet.
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Still one of the great "WTF?!?!?" comments on ANY board. An ego that big is usually backed up by results and not one guy that a lot of people liked followed by a couple of "productive" guys who were UDFAs and a WR doing ok. And they certainly don't have the negative results that come with a Bosa, Goff, Taylor, Kaaya, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. .. wait, there's a lot of them .. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ... just a few more .. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I mean, he's proven he knows NOTHING about scouting QB talent but knows he will ultimately be right about Dobbs. GO figure
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Not all the games he has missed are injury related. The past 2 seasons, he didn't start for the week 17 games because playoff seeds had been set and the opponent was the Browns. He also played behind one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL for the first half of his career. He now has one of the best.

When Haley was made coordinator, one of his changes was to keep Roethlisberger from holding the ball so long and absorbing hits. Roethlisberger now has one of the quickest release times in the league.

He's missed fewer games due to injury in recent years than before.
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May have added 2 or 3 more years to his career doing that too.
 
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TDawg said:
Still one of the great "WTF?!?!?" comments on ANY board. An ego that big is usually backed up by results and not one guy that a lot of people liked followed by a couple of "productive" guys who were UDFAs and a WR doing ok. And they certainly don't have the negative results that come with a Bosa, Goff, Taylor, Kaaya, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. .. wait, there's a lot of them .. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ... just a few more .. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I mean, he's proven he knows NOTHING about scouting QB talent but knows he will ultimately be right about Dobbs. GO figure
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It's because above all he's a troll, and I'm pretty sure stuff like that is just fully advertising it.

Also as I've said before, this whole obsession with Dobbs started a long time ago, and he made all these very "bold" predictions about Dobbs winning the Heisman, leading the Vols to a National Championship, etc. and he wasn't remotely close on those predictions. This is his last shot with Dobbs, there is nothing else after this, so he's just going as big as possible. And the fact that he gets more and more outlandish about Dobbs as the evidence piles up against him just tells me he knows it's over.

Not to mention I think he hitched his wagon to Dobbs a long time ago just in case he ever got big so he could say he was right.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Big Ben has played all 16 games only 3 times in his 14 seasons. He will likely miss 1-3 games going off his past.
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He better not miss a snap. All Dobbs needs is a few plays to take over and keep Big Ben on the bench

- said no one ever except D4H
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
It's because above all he's a troll, and I'm pretty sure stuff like that is just fully advertising it.
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It's such a weird bit of trolling, too. Typically, trolls seem to be having fun with it. And when he says stuff like "I know talent better than anyone on the planet," that seems like a guy who is having fun going as over the top as possible. But he rarely goes to that point of obvious humor. The vast majority of the time he doesn't seem like he's having fun at all.
 
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