Josh Dobbs (merged)

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bamawriter said:
It's hilarious when someone defends his position by arguing the opposite of his position. It's even better when he doesn't realize he's doing it.
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I'll let you have the last word after this post you seem like the kind of kid that needs it.

Dobbs on an equally coached and equally talented team would outperform any qb UT has had with the excepttion of Peyton Manning.

The fact that he accomplished what he did with the line he played behind and the coaching (or lack thereof) he received only cements the argument.

I hope you fnd this equally hilarious. Seems like you need something to help you feel good about yourself.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I'll let you have the last word after this post you seem like the kind of kid that needs it.

Dobbs on an equally coached and equally talented team would outperform any qb UT has had with the excepttion of Peyton Manning.

The fact that he accomplished what he did with the line he played behind and the coaching (or lack thereof) he received only cements the argument.

I hope you fnd this equally hilarious. Seems like you need something to help you feel good about yourself.
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And now you're turning your position into a "if" scenario, which everyone knows is always a rock solid argument.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I'll let you have the last word after this post you seem like the kind of kid that needs it.

Dobbs on an equally coached and equally talented team would outperform any qb UT has had with the excepttion of Peyton Manning.

The fact that he accomplished what he did with the line he played behind and the coaching (or lack thereof) he received only cements the argument.

I hope you fnd this equally hilarious. Seems like you need something to help you feel good about yourself.
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You think Dobbs was a better QB than Heath Shuler?
 
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I have no problem admitting I didn’t like taking Fournette 4th overall bama completely shutting him down on was my main concern

But fact is I was wrong Fournette had more 100 yard rush games then every back except Le’Veon Bell

I believe Fournette had 6 and Bell had 7 or something close to that while Fournette missed 3 or 4 games

Dude put up 1040 rush yds and 300 rec yards w/ 10 TDs

Only a hater or troll can talk down on that man rookie year

Not to mention they sucked so bad in 2017 they had the 4th overall pick lol only 3 teams were ****tier

It’s not like he has a good QB or even a good OL it’s ok but they had another rookie Cam Robinson starting week 1 at LT

D4h you’re just a troll who slurps up former Vols and make retard level predictions

Too bad for u the jags are making good draft picks and FA signings and they got so much young talent Fournette probably gonna be better next year he’s still learning how to play RB

But he was just ranked by his peers 58th in nfl top 100

Also gonna be fun watching Deshaun Watson make D4h look like a damn fool when he comes back healthy and lights It up like that simple mind of yours thinks Dobbs is gonna Take Big Ben job and win a superb bowl lolz
 
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Leonard Fournette Official NFL Rookie Highlights || Jacksonville Jaguars Football 2017 - YouTube

#58: Leonard Fournette (RB, Jaguars) | Top 100 Players of 2018 | NFL - YouTube


These say/show it all its facts Fournette along with Campbell and Bouye played a huge part in the jags huge turnaround from 4th worst in 17 and making it to the afc ship


Went from worst 4 to best 4 in a year

That’s a big ass turnaround

But hey keep babbling about 3.9 you the only one that has a problem seeing past that and all the good he actually did

Hell they were damn close to beating the pats and making super bowl! Jags ain’t get bodied like the vikes
 
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Steelers QB Joshua Dobbs fighting for roster spot | TribLIVE

Unless there is an injury in training camp or the preseason and barring a trade, the Steelers are expected to open the season with Landry Jones and Rudolph as the options behind Ben Roethlisberger. That leaves Dobbs perhaps ticketed for the practice squad, another team's roster if he doesn't clear waivers or, worse, the unemployment line.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Steelers QB Joshua Dobbs fighting for roster spot | TribLIVE

Unless there is an injury in training camp or the preseason and barring a trade, the Steelers are expected to open the season with Landry Jones and Rudolph as the options behind Ben Roethlisberger. That leaves Dobbs perhaps ticketed for the practice squad, another team's roster if he doesn't clear waivers or, worse, the unemployment line.
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Mason Rudolph and the other dude from OU are looking better then the goat Dobbs
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
Mason Rudolph and the other dude from OU are looking better then the goat Dobbs
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Haven’t read anyone praising Landry Jones, but they really seem to be playing down the impact of his salary on the cap...precursor to retaining him. Sounding more and more like if Dobbs hoists the Lombardi moments after the Super Bowl that he’ll receive a misdemeanor citation.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Steelers QB Joshua Dobbs fighting for roster spot | TribLIVE

Unless there is an injury in training camp or the preseason and barring a trade, the Steelers are expected to open the season with Landry Jones and Rudolph as the options behind Ben Roethlisberger. That leaves Dobbs perhaps ticketed for the practice squad, another team's roster if he doesn't clear waivers or, worse, the unemployment line.
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Nah man, D4H just posted Dobbs throwing the ball far, so that will convince the Steelers to make him the starter.
 
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I see two lines of thought.

The Steelers are not in rebuilding mode. It seems terribly unlikely a team looking to win right here/right now wants to risk a playoff run with nobody on the roster having taken a real NFL snap besides their 36yo starter. Given that their freshly minted 3rd round QB is pretty much covered in plot armor Dobbs will likely have to decisively beat out Jones to remain on the active roster.

The other line of thought would be if you wanted to gamble on BB staying healthy Dobbs could be useful, in the here and now, as a situational player. (think Tebow supplementing Leak in '06) Regardless of one's opinion of how good he is right now as an NFL starter he's a good enough passer and damn sure a good enough runner to be a real concern for a defense on those dreaded 3rd and 3/goal line scenarios.

We'll see, but my thought is the onus is probably going to be on Dobbs to step his game WAY up from last year in the camp/pre-season to make the active roster.
 
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hndog609 said:
The other line of thought would be if you wanted to gamble on BB staying healthy Dobbs could be useful, in the here and now, as a situational player. (think Tebow supplementing Leak in '06) Regardless of one's opinion of how good he is right now as an NFL starter he's a good enough passer and damn sure a good enough runner to be a real concern for a defense on those dreaded 3rd and 3/goal line scenarios.
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You don't see NFL teams doing this very often. Situational QBs are rare as hen's teeth.
 
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bamawriter said:
You don't see NFL teams doing this very often. Situational QBs are rare as hen's teeth.
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Agreed, but that context was stated as a gamble on BB staying (at least mostly) healthy. Dobbs is still probably going to have to at the very least convince the team he could somewhat compare to Jones as a true backup and have the situational aspect as a sort of "tie breaker".

It's a long shot unless, as I said, Dobbs has made real strides since 2017. The kind where he can be trusted to back up QB a playoff team without a single live fire snap on his resume.


IMO unless the Steelers were 90% sure Jones was already expendable drafting Rudolph just doesn't make sense to me. Since I've seen nothing that makes me believe they have THAT much faith in Dobbs at this point (much less Rudolph) I believe he is the QB most at risk going into camp/pre-season.
 
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hndog609 said:
Agreed, but that context was stated as a gamble on BB staying (at least mostly) healthy. Dobbs is still probably going to have to at the very least convince the team he could somewhat compare to Jones as a true backup and have the situational aspect as a sort of "tie breaker".

It's a long shot unless, as I said, Dobbs has made real strides since 2017. The kind where he can be trusted to back up QB a playoff team without a single live fire snap on his resume.


IMO unless the Steelers were 90% sure Jones was already expendable drafting Rudolph just doesn't make sense to me. Since I've seen nothing that makes me believe they have THAT much faith in Dobbs at this point (much less Rudolph) I believe he is the QB most at risk going into camp/pre-season.
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Unless Dobbs shows never-before-seen abilities to effectively read defenses, and has dramatically improved long-ball consistency, I just don't see the Steelers dumping a mediocre but seasoned Landry Jones in order to keep him. Especially considering Rothlisberger's age and injury history.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Unless Dobbs shows never-before-seen abilities to effectively read defenses, and has dramatically improved long-ball consistency, I just don't see the Steelers dumping a mediocre but seasoned Landry Jones in order to keep him. Especially considering Rothlisberger's age and injury history.
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At this point, it seems pretty clear that Rudolph is already the #2. Neither Jones nor Dobbs will be expected to contribute on the field. The 3rd stringer will be expected to be a kind of assistant QB coach, and it's hard to see how Dobbs would be in a better spot to perform that role than Jones.
 
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bamawriter said:
At this point, it seems pretty clear that Rudolph is already the #2.
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Huh? How has a rookie that's only been through OTA's and minicamp pushed out a less that stellar but servicable backup QB entering his 6th year with the same team who in his career has started and won games?
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Huh? How has a rookie that's only been through OTA's and minicamp pushed out a less that stellar but servicable backup QB entering his 6th year with the same team who in his career has started and won games?
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Expect Mason Rudolph to be the Pittsburgh Steelers backup QB

Don't rule out Mason Rudolph as the Steelers' backup QB | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Obviously nothing is official. But if Rudolph isn't at least on pace to be the #2, then all the talk of Jones vs Dobbs for a roster spot makes no sense. If Rudolph isn't at least on pace to be the #2, then Dobbs is just waiting to get cut.
 
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bamawriter said:
Expect Mason Rudolph to be the Pittsburgh Steelers backup QB

Don't rule out Mason Rudolph as the Steelers' backup QB | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Obviously nothing is official. But if Rudolph isn't at least on pace to be the #2, then all the talk of Jones vs Dobbs for a roster spot makes no sense. If Rudolph isn't at least on pace to be the #2, then Dobbs is just waiting to get cut.
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With the Pirates the only active sports team, there's a limited amount of material for the writers in Pittsburgh.

Considering Landry Jones didn't take a snap in the regular season until his third season and for that to happen the 2nd string QB (Gradkowski)had to go on IR and the replacement 2nd string QB (Vick) had to get hurt in a game. Tomlin is not one to throw raw QB's into a game. However, that is how Roethlisberger got on the field in the 2nd game of his career but again #1 and #2 went down for that to happen.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Huh? How has a rookie that's only been through OTA's and minicamp pushed out a less that stellar but servicable backup QB entering his 6th year with the same team who in his career has started and won games?
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Hmmm, well it could be that Tomlin and the coaching staff have watched Rudolph throw and concluded that he is better than Jones. Looking at Jones stats tells that he isnt very good at all. So taking a chance on Rudolph doesnt seem like that big of a deal.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
With the Pirates the only active sports team, there's a limited amount of material for the writers in Pittsburgh.

Considering Landry Jones didn't take a snap in the regular season until his third season and for that to happen the 2nd string QB (Gradkowski)had to go on IR and the replacement 2nd string QB (Vick) had to get hurt in a game. Tomlin is not one to throw raw QB's into a game. However, that is how Roethlisberger got on the field in the 2nd game of his career but again #1 and #2 went down for that to happen.
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Wait a minute, are you saying Roethlisberger only saw the field his rookie year because Batch and Maddox were hurt? :good!::good!:
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hmmm, well it could be that Tomlin and the coaching staff have watched Rudolph throw and concluded that he is better than Jones. Looking at Jones stats tells that he isnt very good at all. So taking a chance on Rudolph doesnt seem like that big of a deal.
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I mean, listen, we're talking about practice. Not a game. Not a game. Not a game. We're talking about practice. Not a game. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game. We're talking about practice, man.

I mean how silly is that. And we're talking about practice. But we're talking about practice, man. What are we talking about? Practice? We're talking about practice, man?

We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about practice, man.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hmmm, well it could be that Tomlin and the coaching staff have watched Rudolph throw and concluded that he is better than Jones. So taking a chance on Rudolph doesnt seem like that big of a deal.
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Per Jim Wexell, publisher Steel City Insider at 247Sports:

From the notebook of a sportswriter who isn't sure you should buy the raves of the just-completed Steelers spring in shorts, but is certain you should buy this:

* Mason Rudolph probably has the weakest arm of the four quarterbacks. It's apparent when they're throwing outs. But he throws a beautiful, arching, accurate deep ball, has good mobility for a big pocket passer, and has the kind of enthusiasm and thirst for learning that will make him an effective leader.

* It's not inaccurate to say he could become the No. 2 this season, but I can't imagine anyone with the team saying that at this point -- unless they're buried in their work and didn't watch any college football before being surprised by what he's shown this spring.

* As with return specialists, the preseason games will determine the quarterback pecking order.
 
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Your point is well-made, Shunka.

But I think the writing is on the wall when it comes to Dobbs. If the Steelers aren't confident in making Rudolph the #2 by the end of camp, then Dobbs is 100% useless to them. There is no way that the QB depth chart will be #1 Roethlisberger #2 Dobbs #3 Rudolph. Dobbs' only chance is for them to conclude the Rudolph is ready to play if needed, and that Dobbs will suffice as a cheap backstop in case of disaster. If they don't leave camp with enough confidence in Rudolph, then Jones is their only #2 option.
 
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