Josh Dobbs (merged)

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volsarelife1 said:
But but but but but. Dobbs was supposed to take over last season. Dobbs was supposed to have taken over already this year. You said Ben was washed up so how is he holding back Dobbs? You was adamant that November 8th was the day. Yes you're kicking the can.
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I ain't Ms Cleo. Those are guesses. I never said I could predict the future. Saying whether a guy has talent or not ain't guessing. That is a skill I have. Look no further than James Conner.

Ya'll were saying the same thing about him last year. I said all he needs is a chance. Le'Veon gave him that chance by holding out and James hasn't looked back.

All Dobbs needs is a chance. I have no clue when that will be. What I do know is that once he gets his shot, he will ball out like James Conner and never look back.

Alvin Kamara = Superstar
James Conner = Superstar
Josh Dobbs = soon to be Superstar
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You do know we did this lil song and dance a few months ago?

QBs go to the combine with different things to prove. With Dobbs, Watson, and Lamar, no one questioned their arm strength in transitioning to the NFL. It was their accuracy. So at the combine they made it a focus to try and be accurate rather than just ripping it. That's how Deshaun threw even slower than Dobbs. Same with Lamar. However, when you watch Deshaun on Sundays you see an arm that is as strong as anyone ripping throws all over the place.

Dobbs will get his chance in real games soon. And when he's ripping bullets all over the field, I'll be waiting for an apology from you for ever questioning his arm strength.
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That's adorable but Dobbs doesn't have the arm or the mechanics to "rip bullets" .. he just doesn't. On top of that, his mechanics are just not good. Again, tremendous athlete, just not as a QB. But hey, I just replied to a post from someone who has proven time and again to not know a thing about QBs (or LBs, or OLs, or "insert position group here").
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I ain't Ms Cleo. Those are guesses. I never said I could predict the future. Saying whether a guy has talent or not ain't guessing. That is a skill I have. Look no further than James Conner.

Ya'll were saying the same thing about him last year. I said all he needs is a chance. Le'Veon gave him that chance by holding out and James hasn't looked back.

All Dobbs needs is a chance. I have no clue when that will be. What I do know is that once he gets his shot, he will ball out like James Conner and never look back.

Alvin Kamara = Superstar (YEP)
James Conner = Superstar (Here we go again using the small sample size when it fits your agenda but dismissing it when it doesn't.. having a good season but Superstar? Not ready to go there yet after 2/3 of a season but he is really running the ball well)
Josh Dobbs = soon to be Superstar (No real signs of this as of now)
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I'm guessing this is your attempt at comedy .. There is literally nothing you have done to prove it's a "skill you have". A few hits here and there over the literally hundreds of predictions doth not make a "skill". You have proven the QB position is one that completely escapes you with regards to evaluating players.

And it's not just that .. it's you trying to convince everyone that the Vols had the team to run the table following the Auburn win. I created a thread over on the Vols Football thread predicting a UT win in that game. But you took it to a whole different level predicting them to win out including Bama.

You tried to convince everyone on here that the Bengals have an elite defense. Good players at a few positions, but elite defense? Whoa that one was just bad.

You somehow thought the Vols had the team to win it all two straight years but not after not really sniffing it the first year, it was after the second year of just looking horrible that then, THEN, you blame it all on coaching. Not the lack of depth, not the lack of elite players in the two-deep. Coaching alone. No, just no. Doesn't add up AT ALL.

And since you're into the small sample size sometimes, Josh Allen is AWFUL and you refuse to see it, the Ravens still don't trust 90% of the playbook with Lamar Jackson and as long as Flacco looks like he can sling it, they won't, Mayfield is a gamer and continues to get better for a franchise that has a history of getting it wrong (Chubb looks incredible too BTW) and you can add probably 100 more to this list of misses. So go ahead and reply with your Kamara (everyone knew it), Conner (great story, hope you continue to be right with that one, love that kid), McCaffrey (first round pick, not exactly going out on a limb there) and JuJu (second round pick, not much different McCaffrey prediction).
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I ain't Ms Cleo. Those are guesses. I never said I could predict the future.
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This is hilarious. You are so Ms Cleo it should be considered as your penalty avatar with Bama. Every time you say something is going to happen it's you making a prediction. If this is still confusing for you try this; every time you post something that you'd take credit for being right about you take the loss when it doesn't happen. If it's an issue for you when the latter happens to be pointed out (so very, very, very often) perhaps you could be more judicious in throwing out assertions.
 
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hndog609 said:
This is hilarious. You are so Ms Cleo it should be considered as your penalty avatar with Bama. Every time you say something is going to happen it's you making a prediction. If this is still confusing for you try this; every time you post something that you'd take credit for being right about you take the loss when it doesn't happen. If it's an issue for you when the latter happens to be pointed out (so very, very, very often) perhaps you could be more judicious in throwing out assertions.
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I only take credit for when my talent evaluation pans out for which I have a system. Game results are pure chance. That's the difference.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I only take credit for when my talent evaluation pans out for which I have a system. Game results are pure chance. That's the difference.
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Topic doesn't matter. You make a prediction and it's wrong you deserve whatever grief people decide to give you. Making fewer stupid (and many of your predictions are insanely foolish) predictions would really cut down on your being wrong so often.

As a bonus that "game results are pure chance" is one of the dumbest things you've ever posted...which is a very high bar to vault.
 
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hndog609 said:
Topic doesn't matter. You make a prediction and it's wrong you deserve whatever grief people decide to give you. Making fewer stupid (and many of your predictions are insanely foolish) predictions would really cut down on your being wrong so often.

As a bonus that "game results are pure chance" is one of the dumbest things you've ever posted...which is a very high bar to vault.
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It won't let me "like" this post more than once with the "very high bar to vault" comment. If game results were pure chance, Vegas wouldn't put so much money into studying them in order to set betting lines. If you use the D4H system, they probably are PURE CHANCE and so are his player evaluations. If he really has a system for that, that thing needs to go in the garbage.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I only take credit for when my talent evaluation pans out for which I have a system. Game results are pure chance. That's the difference.
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Here's a thought, Instead of taking so much flack maybe you should take some time off and come back to this forum next season.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Kick what can? I never claimed to be Ms Cleo and a predictor of the future. I only claimed to be great at evaluating talent.
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I expect Dobbs to get chance because of injury. Just as was the case here at Tennessee. Wasn't Dobbs 3rd on the depth chart after Worley and Peterman as a sophomore. And it took injuries to both (or very poor play from Peterman) for Dobbs to get his chance and then when Dobbs took over he never looked back. And then we spent the next few weeks asking Butch Jones why Dobbs was starting from the jump.

Same thing will happen in Pittsburgh. Steelers will carry 4 QBs this year on the roster. Big Ben will get injured sometime between Week 1-6. The coaches will put Landry Jones out there. He will play awful or get hurt himself. Finally they will be FORCED to play Dobbs. He will light it up just as he did at Tennessee in 2014. Steelers will win the Super Bowl with Dobbs as the starter. And then people will spend the entire off-season wondering why Dobbs wasn't named the backup after his strong pre-season and why it took Landry Jones falling flat on his face for him to have a chance.

This is simply the way Dobbs story is supposed to play out.
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Could you be any more disingenuous on how you've presented your Dobbs predictions on this board? I think not.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Could you be any more disingenuous on how you've presented your Dobbs predictions on this board? I think not.
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Oh I still believe Dobbs will rise to greatness in the NFL. You can call it a guarantee if you want. However, I don't know exactly when or how that will be. I just know it will eventually happen. Why? Cause Dobbs is destined for that greatness. That I'm sure of.

Don't believe for one second I've backed off what Dobbs will accomplish. I'm just waiting for when it happens. The "when" is what I can't predict. But it will happen.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's amazing how quickly a "guarantee" becomes a "guess."
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My favorite is still his asssertion that he doesn't know the details and never claimed he did, just the ending......after mulitple times declaring said details, then making excuses and kicking the can (then claiming he doesn't make excuses nor kick the can).
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
My favorite is still his asssertion that he doesn't know the details and never claimed he did, just the ending......after mulitple times declaring said details, then making excuses and kicking the can (then claiming he doesn't make excuses nor kick the can).
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It’s brilliant how he does it really. It’s what brings me back
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
My favorite is still his asssertion that he doesn't know the details and never claimed he did, just the ending......after mulitple times declaring said details, then making excuses and kicking the can (then claiming he doesn't make excuses nor kick the can).
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That's pretty much his tactic-of-last-resort, when there is no suspension of disbelief possible that can actually justify credence in his post. It's pretty much my goal in interacting with him; to get him to back himself into a corner where his own previous proclamations, nullify his current proclamations.
 
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BeardedVol said:
That's pretty much his tactic-of-last-resort, when there is no suspension of disbelief possible that can actually justify credence in his post. It's pretty much my goal in interacting with him; to get him to back himself into a corner where his own previous proclamations, nullify his current proclamations.
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your posts are what I love. Because as soon as you back him into a corner, he pole vaults over the wall to a new set of situations. It's so much fun to watch unfold.
 
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superdave1984 said:
Plus, when Dobbs does not achieve the level of greatness that was predicted, it will be full Uncle Rico. He didn't get the chance.
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No. I've already said it before that if Dobbs isn't a SUPERSTAR in the NFL, I'll stop making player evaluations. PERIOD.

Cause if I miss on him, then I don't know anything. Why? Cause I've never been more confident in a prospect as I am in Dobbs.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
No. I've already said it before that if Dobbs isn't a SUPERSTAR in the NFL, I'll stop making player evaluations. PERIOD.

Cause if I miss on him, then I don't know anything. Why? Cause I've never been more confident in a prospect as I am in Dobbs.
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So, in your mind, if you are correct on Dobbs, then it negates all of the other player evaluations, season predictions, game predictions, coaching predictions that you've been wrong about?
 
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BeardedVol said:
So, in your mind, if you are correct on Dobbs, then it negates all of the other player evaluations, season predictions, game predictions, coaching predictions that you've been wrong about?
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Yes cause I don't care about season predictions, game predictions, or coaching predictions. Those are guesses. There is no methodology to them. With my player evaluations I have a methodology I believe will prove more accurate than anyone elses. Especially the folks in the NFL.

Now Dobbs alone won't undo if I miss on most of my other player evaluations. However, hitting on a QB matters. Especially one that falls in the later rounds. If Dobbs ends up being exactly what I've predicted (which is a future 1st ballot Hall of Famer) then yes I will say that can negate almost anything because finding QBs that elite is so rare. And the fact I would have gotten that right over everyone else will make a huge difference.

Considering the fact Alvin Kamara and James Conner have been exactly what I predicted, you better be scared. Cause Dobbs is coming up right behind them.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Yes cause I don't care about season predictions, game predictions, or coaching predictions. Those are guesses. There is no methodology to them. With my player evaluations I have a methodology I believe will prove more accurate than anyone elses. Especially the folks in the NFL.

Now Dobbs alone won't undo if I miss on most of my other player evaluations. However, hitting on a QB matters. Especially one that falls in the later rounds. If Dobbs ends up being exactly what I've predicted (which is a future 1st ballot Hall of Famer) then yes I will say that can negate almost anything because finding QBs that elite is so rare. And the fact I would have gotten that right over everyone else will make a huge difference.

Considering the fact Alvin Kamara and James Conner have been exactly what I predicted, you better be scared. Cause Dobbs is coming up right behind them.
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And how would being correct about Dobbs, have an impact on the player predictions that you've gotten incorrect, several spectacularly so?
 
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BeardedVol said:
And how would being correct about Dobbs, have an impact on the player predictions that you've gotten incorrect, several spectacularly so?
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First of all, I only started using this methodology in 2017. So thus far you're basically talking about guys who are at most halfway through their 2nd professional season. Hardly enough time for you to claim I've had many misses. I've already admitted to a few guys I missed on. For example Kareem Hunt. There were guys I overrated like Charles Harris (Dolphins) that don't look like they'll be as good as I thought they would be. But other than for the RB position, its far too early to make grand proclamations about players like Brad Kaaya for example.

Just like ya'll said I missed on James Conner last year only to look like fools this year. Just give it time. I'm confident most of my evaluations will look as good as my RB rankings for the 2017 class.
 
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The only reason Kaaya is listed on a NFL roster is because he got injured being waived. He’s on the injured/waived list. Failure doesn’t have to be a grand proclamation...just recognize it.
 
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