Jones better than Pruitt From Athlon ask the coaches

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wmcovol said:
Some School has a serious coaching problem. Pruitt isn’t Bryant or Saban but he’s Much better than Jones.
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He can be Bryant or Sabin though. The difference in last year and year 1 was Pruitt got a lot more emotionally involved in the game from the sidelines and that shows a coach that is maturing and learning how to be a head coach. He's also surrounded himself with very good coaching talent, and he's as good as Jones was at recruiting. Let's see how much he's progressed this year.
 
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Butch Jones coach a program that has been around for over 100 years to its first 4-8 season. He will go down as the worst coach in our programs history. /thread.
 
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Jravol78 said:
You are correct that CJP could be staring down a 5-5 record in year three whereas the previous coach won 8 regular season games in his 3rd year playing a 12 game schedule . Three of those wins were against Bowling Green, Western Carolina & North Texas. I certainly hope that IF (big if there too ) The Big Orange get to play all 10 games this season in an SEC only schedule they achieve a better mark than .500. If they do I think that most reasonable fans would give CJP & the team a pass for the fact that they played a brutal schedule under less than ideal circumstances. If they win 4 or less Pruitt will have some questions to answer and changes to make and rightfully so. Personally I see 6-4 as the most likely outcome with 7-3 most likely being the ceiling .

Hypothetically speaking if you took away the 2 best OOC wins from the previous coaches 3rd year of BGU & WCU and replaced them with Auburn & A&M that you would add 2 losses to the ‘15 record. If we do finish 5-5 this year I still like our chances going into year 4 with CJP as opposed to the last guy and as it stands in this moment it’s not even close .
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If we are using Butch's third year as the metric for evaluating Pruitt, then Pruitt has already surpassed Butch by achieving 5 conference wins in his second season, where as Butch didn't do so until his third season, and then started the slide to the 4-8 (0-8), worst season in UT's history.

As long as Pruitt at least gets to 5 wins this season, since they are all conference games, he will have surpassed Butch.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
Wonder how much Jones paid Saban to say this.
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I doubt Jones had to pay Saban anything. Saban's probably looking for a white knight to come in and hire Jones away. Trying to give him a good resume so somebody will take him off his hands.
 
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One of the main differences between the two is I had little to no confidence in Lyle with making competent decisions during the games or even with personnel/staff selections. Pruitt seems to be much better, and doesn't let his stubbornness get in the way, rather uses common sense. With that being said, I think we are finally moving in the right direction. This coach, whoever it is, clearly wants to stir the pot.
 
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Volz4lif3 said:
Muschamp all over this

Tennessee football: Anonymous coach hints Butch Jones better than Jeremy Pruitt
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Asinine. This says it all:

“Whomever said such a thing must clearly believe that Jones’ 9-4 record and top 25 finish in his third year on the job should be compared to what Pruitt did in the season-opener of his second year on the job.”

My guess is that it was Mullen.

That said, we may just never know. So much is different now than it was when Butch was here. For one, Pruitt now has Mullen and Smart rolling to coach against in the East. Stoops is recruiting and coaching better than ever before. I’m not sure what to expect from Drinkwitz.

Then you ad Lane Kiffin, Sam Pittman, Fisher and Orgeron to Saban, Malzhan in the West... it’s insane to think the landscape is the same as it was when Butch was coaching.

I will just go with like-for-like for 1,000 Alex. Stoops, Muschamp, Mason all beat Jones’ team in his most recent year coaching. None of them could beat Pruitt in his most recent year coaching. Malzhan beat Jones his first year coaching and he lost to Pruitt his first year coaching.

Last year was insane. We could have won 10, maybe 11 games just as easy as we could have won 3.

We were in the game for 11 until JG’s fumble in Bama. That was not the case for Butch in his second year. We competed in 8 of those games.
 
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Hahahahahahahahaha

Not even close. Pruitt can out-recruit, out-gameplan, and straight up whip Jones's ass... superior in every way.
 
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DonDiego said:
I doubt Jones had to pay Saban anything. Saban's probably looking for a white knight to come in and hire Jones away. Trying to give him a good resume so somebody will take him off his hands.
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so the anonymous contributor really was Sexton...
 
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Doctrippin said:
He can be Bryant or Sabin though. The difference in last year and year 1 was Pruitt got a lot more emotionally involved in the game from the sidelines and that shows a coach that is maturing and learning how to be a head coach. He's also surrounded himself with very good coaching talent, and he's as good as Jones was at recruiting. Let's see how much he's progressed this year.
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He’ll never be Bryant or Saban. At least not here.
 
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Those anonymous coaches quotes only shows how childish and petty coaches can be.
 
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Someone is unhappy about UT potentially not being such an easy out any more. Wouldn't be surprising if it were Muschamp... since Jones was easy for him even with inferior talent.

IMO, that would be a VERY odd thing if said by Saban. He seems to have a lot of respect for Pruitt.
 
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Cmacsmokey said:
Butch did beat Florida and end that long losing streak he also beat Georgia twice. When will Pruitt beat them?
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Butch had FAR superior talent to Florida and Georgia in 2016, and it still took a miracle to win both.

2015 victory over Georgia was solid, but still took a crazy comeback to win it.

The best game Butch ever coached was actually 2013 against Georgia. It was the only game I remember him being truly aggressive the entire game.
 
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It was 100% Muschamp. That’s why the writer is talking about Muschamp during the piece, he’s trying to subtly let everyone know who said it.

Plus Muschamp thinks 9 wins is a good season.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I think it's nonsense... However JP is staring down a schedule that could easily end up 5-5 if we have the same poor QB play we've seen. Hopefully that doesn't happen but that would be a tough pill to swallow in year 3
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I'm the least likely guy on this board to give a "Mulligan" to a coach. But I am not sure how much we can conclude about Pruitt minus those 3 sure (well almost) wins. I don't think I would have been happy with another 8 win season if UT had played the original schedule. I don't think that would have indicated the kind of progress we should be looking for. However, I am not sure there's enough depth on this roster to drop an FCS team and two mid-majors then replace them with TAM and Auburn.

OTOH, most SEC teams are in the same boat. Their depth is going to be challenged. Injury management will be critical. Even a Covid quarantine could turn a game or the season. Statistically, only about 20% of a population even under constant close contact will catch Covid. We have isolated ship outbreaks that prove that pretty conclusively. So across the league... about 20% of the players could catch it. You can probably say at least 5%.

The season could hinge on who has more in those likely to catch it percentages.

There is also evidence that a previous Coronavirus Cold left many people with significantly higher resistance to Covid. The number of games lost by critical players could come down to whether a school caught that Coronavirus last fall... or didn't.
 
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Ummmmm, let's see. Just how many National Championships did Butch contribute too in his tenure? Oh, and how many NCs has Coach Pruitt been associated with??

Anonymous Coach my ass. Butch wrote the article, plain and simple.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
Butch had FAR superior talent to Florida and Georgia in 2016, and it still took a Dobbs to win both.

2015 victory over Georgia was solid, but still took a crazy comeback to win it.

The best game Butch ever coached was actually 2013 against Georgia. It was the only game I remember him being truly aggressive the entire game.
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I agree with your original post but I think this is more accurate.
 
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Volador said:
Ummmmm, let's see. Just how many National Championships did Butch contribute too in his tenure? Oh, and how many NCs has Coach Pruitt been associated with??

Anonymous Coach my ass. Butch wrote the article, plain and simple.
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Butch contributed to a lot of titles, don’t take that away from him. Butch single handedly won the East for Florida in 2016, that was impressive.
 
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Pruitt has a much better coaching and recruiting staff than Jones ever had during his tenure at UT.

Hurd should have been moved to wide receiver while Kamara was the lead running back and John Kelly would have backed up Kamara.
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
I was literally about to post the same conclusion!
This is coming from a coach who knows Pruitt is gaining traction with the type of players they, themselves are recruiting and is hoping to downplay any momentum Pruitts program is gaining. The fact that “anonymous” called him Jeremy, stinks of Curley Smart down in jawga.
GBO!!
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That would be my guess also......if there even is an anonymous to begin with. CJP will own his azz in about another year!
 
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