John Currie has a plan...

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JMSqb11 said:
That's like saying if Nick Saban said today publicly that he wants to go coach at Kansas, but he isn't because they don't have the money to pay. Are you saying that their boosters wouldn't start lining up the AD with cash to make this happen?


There are quite a few wealthy boosters that could easily pool together 20 million and pay Butch over 5-7 years. Hell Weis was paid 3 million per year.

If I recall correctly, a lot of Kansas Boosters quit donating to football specifically because of the Mangino mess.

They would be salivating at getting someone like Butch.

The reason they pay cheap is because they aim for no names.
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Lyle is worse than a no-name. At least a no name has the potential to make a name for himself.

Lyle has tarnished his name. He's done.
 
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TruVolFann said:
Mullen is not leaving miss state for Tenn.... What could Tenn offer?? Money would be about the same and Mullen has security at Miss State so why leave and come to Tenn just to get fired 3 to 4 years later when the fans stop supporting him?
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Why would money be the same? We can pay twice what miss state can?

Silly to think if we truly wanted him we couldnt outbid msu...but he may turn down a substantial raise to stay where hes comfortable.
 
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DaUndergroundMan said:
Lol no joke. Kansas might pay 5 million to Saban, if the entire world went insane or saban suddenly disclosed that God told him in a dream to coach at Kansas for 5 million a year. Some people just have a hard time understanding perspective and different realities beyond their own environment.

Kansas has no real desire or ability to pay big to compete in football. There is an $85,000,000 difference in their football profit and ours. They arent built to achieve or sustain football success, and it dont happen overnight. They know this....so no, no "big time" boosters are gonna pony up 5 million to take Butch or Saban off anyone's hands. Thats throwing money away, no matter who you are.

No one will ever pay Lyle Jones power 5 money ever again. Wtf is wrong with anyone thinking otherwise.

Fulmer never got another job. Miles may not, unless he settles for smaller school and pay. Those guys arent embarrasments, just old hat types who were uninspiring to all after their long runs at one school. They had shot their wad. This IS the type of guy Kansas likes, however. What kansas or Nobody wants is an embarrassing loser like Dooley or Lyle. A schmuck who tripped over himself at his first big time job, and left in shame to a chorus of laughter.

Kansas "salivating" to pay 5 million to butch. Lmao.
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Lol you’re silly. Of course Kansas would have boosters ponying up a blank check if Saban announced today, he would go to Kansas if they match his pay.

Kansas has quite a few millionaire boosters that just quit giving after the Mangino scandals. You’re ignorant to think otherwise.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol...because all ADs speak like John Currie, right?
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And that's worked out well perception wise?

You do realize he was crucified publicly for literally putting his coach in the hot seat on national tv?

And did you need to be told that winning is important and he has to more of it for it to be true?

What else do you need to be told in order for you to know it to be true?

Smh
 
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TruVolFann said:
Mullen is not leaving miss state for Tenn.... What could Tenn offer?? Money would be about the same and Mullen has security at Miss State so why leave and come to Tenn just to get fired 3 to 4 years later when the fans stop supporting him?
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You're assuming the money is the same

You're assuming he would be as bad, or worse, as cdd or cbj to think the fans check out that fast.
 
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DaUndergroundMan said:
The same reason president should make a statement in the aftermath of a tragedy.
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If you read the above, you would know that he did. What he conveyed is being discussed.

Not that a terrorist attack or natural disaster where lives are lost and belongings are destroyed really compares.
 
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jakez4ut said:
And that's worked out well perception wise?

You do realize he was crucified publicly for literally putting his coach in the hot seat on national tv?

And did you need to be told that winning is important and he has to more of it for it to be true?

What else do you need to be told in order for you to know it to be true?

Smh
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Other than boredom, I'm not sure why I bother.

Did Currie go to work today? I haven't heard that he released a statement that he did.

Probably curled up in the bed watching A-Team reruns.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Other than boredom, I'm not sure why I bother.

Did Currie go to work today? I haven't heard that he released a statement that he did.

Probably curled up in the bed watching A-Team reruns.
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Nah. He's watching tennis. 🎾 that's all he cares about. Haven't you heard?
 
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This thread and those like it are the epitome of... You can take the horse to water...
 
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Currie is establishing his power. He is telling you, and everyone else, that he is not going to be pushed or bullied into making an emotional rushed decision. It's his job to lose. He will do what he thinks is right, and he has far more information then you or I.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Currie is establishing his power. He is telling you, and everyone else, that he is not going to be pushed or bullied into making an emotional rushed decision. It's his job to lose. He will do what he thinks is right, and he has far more information then you or I.
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Or Currie is doing nothing at the moment, waiting to make a decision after the season has finished. Or Currie is doing nothing because he was told he couldn't fire Butch in his first year as AD. Or Currie looks at Butch's record and thinks that this is just a down year and he'll get it together next year (lol).

All we have to go on is the statements of support that Currie has offered up to this point, as there is zero evidence to the contrary.

I want Butch away from the program as much as anyone , but I'm not going to buy into the delusion that Currie has already committed to firing him, and has already started reaching out to his replacement.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Or Currie is doing nothing at the moment, waiting to make a decision after the season has finished. Or Currie is doing nothing because he was told he couldn't fire Butch in his first year as AD. Or Currie looks at Butch's record and thinks that this is just a down year and he'll get it together next year (lol).

All we have to go on is the statements of support that Currie has offered up to this point, as there is zero evidence to the contrary.

I want Butch away from the program as much as anyone , but I'm not going to buy into the delusion that Currie has already committed to firing him, and has already started reaching out to his replacement.
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because it's so much more likely, that at this point, he's going to be retained, that you'd buy in to the delusion that he's coming back?

logic and reason is all you need to reach the appropriate conclusion.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Or Currie is doing nothing at the moment, waiting to make a decision after the season has finished. Or Currie is doing nothing because he was told he couldn't fire Butch in his first year as AD. Or Currie looks at Butch's record and thinks that this is just a down year and he'll get it together next year (lol).

All we have to go on is the statements of support that Currie has offered up to this point, as there is zero evidence to the contrary.

I want Butch away from the program as much as anyone , but I'm not going to buy into the delusion that Currie has already committed to firing him, and has already started reaching out to his replacement.
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There’s no evidence he’s committed to Butch. All he’s said is he’s committed to the program. See the difference there?
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Currie is establishing his power. He is telling you, and everyone else, that he is not going to be pushed or bullied into making an emotional rushed decision. It's his job to lose. He will do what he thinks is right, and he has far more information then you or I.
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i don't think it has anything to do with power, if it does, then it's ego that's driving his decision making, and that's not good.

i think he's playing things close to the vest because he knows how important the next 30ish days are to the future of the program, and he knows the history of the last decade as it pertains to coaching searches, and their failures, both from an execution standpoint internally, and a public perception standpoint.

again, if one were to actually think about it, what he's doing --yes doing-- makes a lot more sense than bowing down and yielding to the emotional needs of a battered fanbase, when you know the more important issue is what happens with the next hire. you just 'get thru' this season as best you can now, and most, if not all, efforts and resources are exhausted behind the scenes on the replacement.

there's no way Butch is back next year. it's a moot conversation at this point.

it's all about the next hire.
 
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volfanbill said:
There’s no evidence he’s committed to Butch. All he’s said is he’s committed to the program. See the difference there?
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Butch is still on the sideline. When asked Currie has offered up his support of Butch. No plausible information showing the Currie or anyone affiliated with UT has reached out to any coach.

Currie may and should fire Butch, but as it stands, there's nothing that indicates that he has already decided to do so, or that he is working clandestinely to reach out to other coaches.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Butch is still on the sideline. When asked Currie has offered up his support of Butch. No plausible information showing the Currie or anyone affiliated with UT has reached out to any coach.

Currie may and should fire Butch, but as it stands, there's nothing that indicates that he has already decided to do so, or that he is working clandestinely to reach out to other coaches.
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BeardedVol said:
Butch is still on the sideline. When asked Currie has offered up his support of Butch. No plausible information showing the Currie or anyone affiliated with UT has reached out to any coach.

Currie may and should fire Butch, but as it stands, there's nothing that indicates that he has already decided to do so, or that he is working clandestinely to reach out to other coaches.
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What really makes that, much different than Sumlin?
 
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BeecherVol said:
What really makes that, much different than Sumlin?
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Considering the AD came out before the season and said that Sumlin had to win in the back half of the season to keep his job, A&M regent Anthony Buzbee publicly stated that he needed to be fired after the UCLA loss, and that there are reports coming out of A&M's athletic department that they have already instructed the communications department to prepare for his exit at the end of the season.

I'd say the situations are quite different.
 
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