Joey Aguilar another year?

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Some people said Joey does not have another year of eligibility but I'm trying to figure out why. After the Pavia rule should he not have two years since he played two seasons at Diablo Valley? Before that at City College of San Francisco he redshirted for his first year, and the second was canceled due to COVID. What am I missing, to me it seems he should have a redshirt extra year, a COVID extra year, or another year for the two years he played at Diablo Valley.
 
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VolTom1 said:
Some people said Joey does not have another year of eligibility but I'm trying to figure out why. After the Pavia rule should he not have two years since he played two seasons at Diablo Valley? Before that at City College of San Francisco he redshirted for his first year, and the second was canceled due to COVID. What am I missing, to me it seems he should have a redshirt extra year, a COVID extra year, or another year for the two years he played at Diablo Valley.
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The Pavia ruling gave him this year. He was out of eligibility before that.

That ruling didn’t give Juco’s 2 more years. It gave them 1 more.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
The Pavia ruling gave him this year. He was out of eligibility before that.

That ruling didn’t give Juco’s 2 more years. It gave them 1 more.
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Ok I didn't know that. But what about his lost COVID year and Redshirt. To me it seems like he would get a Pavia rule extra year and at least another due to COVID or the Redshirt.
 
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The COVID year was 20. He played JUCO in 21 & 22. App State in 23 & 24. Tennessee in 25. That’s 5 years of playing. He gets one JUCO year back for the Pavia ruling.

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I'm still confused. I am going by Wikipedia. It says he redshirted in 2019, that in 2020 the season was canceled at City College of San Francisco. Then two years at Diablo Valley, and two at Appy State, now one here at UT. That's 5 years, of actual playing time, one extra year due to the Pavia rule. Now I just looked up and it said the COVID extra year ran out for players last year, so that's not possible to claim, but there is still the issue of the Redshirt, unless they count the year he did not play because of COVID as a year he played. I honestly think he has a case for another year, don't know if he wants to do that though.
 
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VolTom1 said:
I'm still confused. I am going by Wikipedia. It says he redshirted in 2019, that in 2020 the season was canceled at City College of San Francisco. Then two years at Diablo Valley, and two at Appy State, now one here at UT. That's 5 years, of actual playing time, one extra year due to the Pavia rule. Now I just looked up and it said the COVID extra year ran out for players last year, so that's not possible to claim, but there is still the issue of the Redshirt, unless they count the year he did not play because of COVID as a year he played. I honestly think he has a case for another year, don't know if he wants to do that though.
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I don't how you think he deserves another year. He got the redshirt in 2019. Covid was 2020, so it doesn’t count, whether he played or not. Then he used his allotted 4 years AFTER THAT. Then the Pavia rule gave him a 5th year, which he is using now. I’m not sure why you think he should have another. This is his 7th year.
 
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GrizzlyVol said:
I wish we would have another year with him but this year is it
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Heupel has struck gold so far in the portal with QB's. These 5 star QB's out of high school have never really faced adversity and have been given everything they wanted. I hope King George is the real deal for the future, but big daddy Hype has a clear framework of high producing Qb's.
 
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Heupel has struck gold so far in the portal with QB's. These 5 star QB's out of high school have never really faced adversity and have been given everything they wanted. I hope King George is the real deal for the future, but big daddy Hype has a clear framework of high producing Qb's.
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Aguilar yes....Joe...i guess......Hendon was already here through Pruitt.. but I agree with what your saying older guys seem to fit this offense, Merk, Gmac Faizon we'll see but I'd keep an eye on the portal
 
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Joey has a good case to come back if he wants to. His path is almost identical to Pavia. Similar to Kitselman. It also depends on UT wanting him back or if they want to get on with new QBs.
 
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I don't how you think he deserves another year. He got the redshirt in 2019. Covid was 2020, so it doesn’t count, whether he played or not. Then he used his allotted 4 years AFTER THAT. Then the Pavia rule gave him a 5th year, which he is using now. I’m not sure why you think he should have another. This is his 7th year.
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Becasue he lost a year due to COVID. Counting this year Diego Pavia gets to play 6 years straight of college football becasue of the COVID rule and the Pavia rule combined, Paiva did not redshirt his first year. Joey has only played 5 total years, yes he has been on a teams for 7, his very first year was a redshirt year and then the next was canceled and he never used his COVID year! The COVID rule ran out last year, but with how things are going with recent rulings he could probably sue the NCAA and get that year back if Tennessee or He wanted to. Here just Let Grok Explain if you even care enough to read that long.

Both points are correct: Joey Aguilar redshirted his true freshman year in 2019 at City College of San Francisco (a junior college), and he never used the NCAA's extra COVID-19 year of eligibility because he didn't participate in any countable competition during the disrupted 2020 season (the JUCO season was canceled due to the pandemic). With that in mind, Aguilar should indeed be eligible for another year of competition in 2026—his sixth overall season—thanks to the same NCAA blanket waiver that benefited Diego Pavia and other former JUCO players. Let me explain his eligibility step by step, based on NCAA rules and his specific timeline.Aguilar's College Football TimelineAguilar's path started at the junior college (JUCO) level, which complicates eligibility but doesn't disqualify him from NCAA play. Here's the breakdown:
  • 2019 (True Freshman Year): Enrolled at City College of San Francisco (CCSF). He redshirted, meaning he practiced but did not play in any games. This preserved a full season of eligibility and did not start his NCAA clock.
  • 2020: Intended to play at CCSF, but the season was canceled due to COVID-19. He did not compete at all, so this year didn't count toward his seasons of eligibility or the five-year clock (NCAA Bylaw 12.8). He even considered quitting football and training as a firefighter during this time.
  • 2021: Transferred to Diablo Valley College (another JUCO). Played his first season of competition here (no redshirt mentioned; he was active but saw limited action early due to competition).
  • 2022: Stayed at Diablo Valley and played his second full JUCO season, passing for 1,446 yards, 8 TDs, and rushing for 358 yards in 6 games before an injury. This completed his JUCO career with two seasons played.
  • 2023: Transferred to NCAA Division I Appalachian State University as a true junior (due to the redshirt and non-countable 2020). He played a full season (14 games, starting 13), setting school records with 3,757 passing yards and 33 TDs. Sun Belt Newcomer of the Year.
  • 2024: Returned to Appalachian State for his fourth season of competition (full season, 12 games, starting 12; 3,003 passing yards, 23 TDs). This would have been his last under standard rules.
After 2024, Aguilar graduated from Appalachian State in May 2025 with a degree in communication studies. He entered the transfer portal in December 2024, initially committing to UCLA (where he participated in spring practices but did not play games), then transferred again to Tennessee in April/May 2025.Standard NCAA Eligibility Rules and How They Apply
  • Seasons of Eligibility: Athletes can play up to 4 seasons of competition (NCAA Bylaw 14.2.5). JUCO seasons do count toward this limit (Bylaw 14.2.4.2), even though JUCO is not NCAA-governed. Aguilar has used exactly 4 seasons (2 JUCO + 2 at App State).
  • Five-Year Clock: Starting from first full-time enrollment (2019), athletes have 5 calendar years to complete those 4 seasons. Non-participation years (like redshirts or canceled seasons) don't advance the clock if no competition occurs.
  • COVID-19 Waiver: The NCAA granted a blanket extra year (fifth season) for athletes affected by 2020 disruptions, extending the clock to 6 years. However, since Aguilar didn't play in 2020 (no season at CCSF), he wasn't "affected" in the sense of losing a season of play—he simply didn't use the waiver because it wasn't needed for his first 4 seasons. His 2023–2024 play at App State was within the standard 5-year window (2019–2024), and the COVID rule didn't add an extra layer for him at that point.
Without intervention, Aguilar's eligibility would have ended after 2024, as he had exhausted his 4 seasons by then.Why He Gets an Extra Year in 2025 (and Potentially 2026)Aguilar's situation mirrors Pavia's: As a former JUCO player with 2 pre-NCAA seasons, he faced the same "unfair" clock compression that limits earning potential from NIL deals and full DI careers. Pavia's November 2024 antitrust lawsuit challenged this (arguing JUCO counting violates Sherman Act antitrust laws by restraining trade). The U.S. District Court granted a preliminary injunction on December 18, 2024, allowing Pavia to play in 2025.In response, the NCAA Division I Board of Directors issued a blanket waiver on December 23, 2024, granting one additional year (a fifth season of competition) for the 2025–26 academic year to all similarly situated athletes—those with prior non-NCAA/JUCO time who would otherwise be ineligible after 2024–25. This waiver:
  • Applies to Aguilar explicitly, as confirmed by reports from his transfer announcements (e.g., he has "one season of eligibility remaining" at Tennessee due to this waiver).
  • Doesn't require using the COVID year; it's a separate JUCO-specific relief.
  • Is temporary (one year only) while Pavia's case (and the NCAA's appeal to the Sixth Circuit) is ongoing. If the lawsuit succeeds long-term, it could become permanent, potentially allowing a sixth season in 2026.
Aguilar is currently in his fifth season overall (first at Tennessee) in 2025, where he's won the starting QB job and led the Vols to early wins (e.g., against ETSU and others). He's 24 years old, which is older than typical due to his JUCO path, but age isn't a barrier under NCAA rules.Should He Get Another Year (2026)?
  • Yes, under current rules: The 2025 season is his extra year via the waiver. For 2026, he could qualify as a graduate transfer (he's already graduated), allowing him to play anywhere without losing eligibility, as long as he pursues a second degree or graduate studies (Bylaw 14.3.5). Many QBs do this (e.g., Stetson Bennett at Georgia). Combined with the waiver's potential permanence from the lawsuit, he has a strong case for a sixth season.
  • Caveats: If the NCAA wins the appeal (unlikely, given recent antitrust losses like House v. NCAA), the waiver might not extend beyond 2025. However, as a grad transfer, he'd still have a path. No reports indicate Aguilar plans to pursue this yet—he's focused on 2025—but his journey (from overlooked JUCO walk-on to SEC starter) makes it plausible if he performs well.
In short, the Pavia waiver already gave Aguilar his 2025 season, and standard grad transfer rules position him well for another in 2026. His redshirt and unused COVID year actually helped by preserving his core eligibility. If Tennessee succeeds with him, expect him to explore options post-2025. Let me know if you want details on his stats or Tennessee's outlook!
 
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Becasue he lost a year due to COVID. Counting this year Diego Pavia gets to play 6 years straight of college football becasue of the COVID rule and the Pavia rule combined, Paiva did not redshirt his first year. Joey has only played 5 total years, yes he has been on a teams for 7, his very first year was a redshirt year and then the next was canceled and he never used his COVID year! The COVID rule ran out last year, but with how things are going with recent rulings he could probably sue the NCAA and get that year back if Tennessee or He wanted to. Here just Let Grok Explain if you even care enough to read that long.

Both points are correct: Joey Aguilar redshirted his true freshman year in 2019 at City College of San Francisco (a junior college), and he never used the NCAA's extra COVID-19 year of eligibility because he didn't participate in any countable competition during the disrupted 2020 season (the JUCO season was canceled due to the pandemic). With that in mind, Aguilar should indeed be eligible for another year of competition in 2026—his sixth overall season—thanks to the same NCAA blanket waiver that benefited Diego Pavia and other former JUCO players. Let me explain his eligibility step by step, based on NCAA rules and his specific timeline.Aguilar's College Football TimelineAguilar's path started at the junior college (JUCO) level, which complicates eligibility but doesn't disqualify him from NCAA play. Here's the breakdown:
  • 2019 (True Freshman Year): Enrolled at City College of San Francisco (CCSF). He redshirted, meaning he practiced but did not play in any games. This preserved a full season of eligibility and did not start his NCAA clock.
  • 2020: Intended to play at CCSF, but the season was canceled due to COVID-19. He did not compete at all, so this year didn't count toward his seasons of eligibility or the five-year clock (NCAA Bylaw 12.8). He even considered quitting football and training as a firefighter during this time.
  • 2021: Transferred to Diablo Valley College (another JUCO). Played his first season of competition here (no redshirt mentioned; he was active but saw limited action early due to competition).
  • 2022: Stayed at Diablo Valley and played his second full JUCO season, passing for 1,446 yards, 8 TDs, and rushing for 358 yards in 6 games before an injury. This completed his JUCO career with two seasons played.
  • 2023: Transferred to NCAA Division I Appalachian State University as a true junior (due to the redshirt and non-countable 2020). He played a full season (14 games, starting 13), setting school records with 3,757 passing yards and 33 TDs. Sun Belt Newcomer of the Year.
  • 2024: Returned to Appalachian State for his fourth season of competition (full season, 12 games, starting 12; 3,003 passing yards, 23 TDs). This would have been his last under standard rules.
After 2024, Aguilar graduated from Appalachian State in May 2025 with a degree in communication studies. He entered the transfer portal in December 2024, initially committing to UCLA (where he participated in spring practices but did not play games), then transferred again to Tennessee in April/May 2025.Standard NCAA Eligibility Rules and How They Apply
  • Seasons of Eligibility: Athletes can play up to 4 seasons of competition (NCAA Bylaw 14.2.5). JUCO seasons do count toward this limit (Bylaw 14.2.4.2), even though JUCO is not NCAA-governed. Aguilar has used exactly 4 seasons (2 JUCO + 2 at App State).
  • Five-Year Clock: Starting from first full-time enrollment (2019), athletes have 5 calendar years to complete those 4 seasons. Non-participation years (like redshirts or canceled seasons) don't advance the clock if no competition occurs.
  • COVID-19 Waiver: The NCAA granted a blanket extra year (fifth season) for athletes affected by 2020 disruptions, extending the clock to 6 years. However, since Aguilar didn't play in 2020 (no season at CCSF), he wasn't "affected" in the sense of losing a season of play—he simply didn't use the waiver because it wasn't needed for his first 4 seasons. His 2023–2024 play at App State was within the standard 5-year window (2019–2024), and the COVID rule didn't add an extra layer for him at that point.
Without intervention, Aguilar's eligibility would have ended after 2024, as he had exhausted his 4 seasons by then.Why He Gets an Extra Year in 2025 (and Potentially 2026)Aguilar's situation mirrors Pavia's: As a former JUCO player with 2 pre-NCAA seasons, he faced the same "unfair" clock compression that limits earning potential from NIL deals and full DI careers. Pavia's November 2024 antitrust lawsuit challenged this (arguing JUCO counting violates Sherman Act antitrust laws by restraining trade). The U.S. District Court granted a preliminary injunction on December 18, 2024, allowing Pavia to play in 2025.In response, the NCAA Division I Board of Directors issued a blanket waiver on December 23, 2024, granting one additional year (a fifth season of competition) for the 2025–26 academic year to all similarly situated athletes—those with prior non-NCAA/JUCO time who would otherwise be ineligible after 2024–25. This waiver:
  • Applies to Aguilar explicitly, as confirmed by reports from his transfer announcements (e.g., he has "one season of eligibility remaining" at Tennessee due to this waiver).
  • Doesn't require using the COVID year; it's a separate JUCO-specific relief.
  • Is temporary (one year only) while Pavia's case (and the NCAA's appeal to the Sixth Circuit) is ongoing. If the lawsuit succeeds long-term, it could become permanent, potentially allowing a sixth season in 2026.
Aguilar is currently in his fifth season overall (first at Tennessee) in 2025, where he's won the starting QB job and led the Vols to early wins (e.g., against ETSU and others). He's 24 years old, which is older than typical due to his JUCO path, but age isn't a barrier under NCAA rules.Should He Get Another Year (2026)?
  • Yes, under current rules: The 2025 season is his extra year via the waiver. For 2026, he could qualify as a graduate transfer (he's already graduated), allowing him to play anywhere without losing eligibility, as long as he pursues a second degree or graduate studies (Bylaw 14.3.5). Many QBs do this (e.g., Stetson Bennett at Georgia). Combined with the waiver's potential permanence from the lawsuit, he has a strong case for a sixth season.
  • Caveats: If the NCAA wins the appeal (unlikely, given recent antitrust losses like House v. NCAA), the waiver might not extend beyond 2025. However, as a grad transfer, he'd still have a path. No reports indicate Aguilar plans to pursue this yet—he's focused on 2025—but his journey (from overlooked JUCO walk-on to SEC starter) makes it plausible if he performs well.
In short, the Pavia waiver already gave Aguilar his 2025 season, and standard grad transfer rules position him well for another in 2026. His redshirt and unused COVID year actually helped by preserving his core eligibility. If Tennessee succeeds with him, expect him to explore options post-2025. Let me know if you want details on his stats or Tennessee's outlook!
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You got me believing. I will be over the damn moon if we get him for another season.
 
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