Joe Milton’s future

#26
#26
If Milton refuses to put touch on his passes then he will never make it anywhere. I hate to see that much talent go to waste but there's no way around the truth. Its not coaching. I can guarantee you that this staff and Harbaugh have tried to work with him on it and obviously he refuses to dial it down.. There's a time and place to try and zip a ball in there but his is literally every throw. You can't tell me he can't take some heat off it.. He simply refuses. The guy is also massive but is scared to death of contact while Hooker puts his body on the line for a 1st down. We need a quality backup. Milton is not it. I'm sorry but potential doesn't win football games. He ain't got it. He could have put this late in his career he is what he is.. Go look at his tape from Michigan and look at the turn around they have had since moving on from him. Film doesn't lie.
This is the dumbest post of the day, and a contender for dumbest post of the week. You really think someone “refuses” to put touch on a ball? It’s like saying someone refuses to make a free throw in basketball. Every ball that kid throws is one he hopes the receiver will catch. Maybe we should a check his breaker box to see if he’s blown the “touch refuser”.
 
#27
#27
He made a couple of throws in that UGA game that not many can make. Put air on a bomb. Threw a dart in the endzone. I know I’m in the minority but I’m glad to have him.
Problem is his inconsistency and poor decision making at times. For every good pass he makes, he has 2-3 poor/off target throws.
 
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The mental memory picture of Milton running out of bounds with no time left against Ole Miss, his numerous over throw of wide open receivers, and his last silly fumble have done it with me with him as our QB...

The kid seems to be one hell of a fine guy, but so far, he has not been one hell of a fine quarterback anywhere he has played.
 
#29
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It is similar to the way I felt about Pruitt trying to coach up JG. You can teach technique, mechanics, and plays. But you can only do so much with teaching decision making and processing speed. I would give Milton a little bit more time, but that final play against Ole Miss was a head scratcher for sure.
 
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This coaching staff has proven they know how to develop quarterbacks. Having this off season with Milton where they can focus on his development should spark a real improvement.

They'll spend the offseason addressing the issues he has, make him better for next year. I still see a lot of potential in him.
 
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This is the dumbest post of the day, and a contender for dumbest post of the week. You really think someone “refuses” to put touch on a ball? It’s like saying someone refuses to make a free throw in basketball. Every ball that kid throws is one he hopes the receiver will catch. Maybe we should a check his breaker box to see if he’s blown the “touch refuser”.
Soooo you believe that 4 years of coaching and he just hasn't learned to not throw the ball like a rocket? Explain it to me and literally everyone else. There's several good athletes that never made it due to not listening to coaching and your looking at one in #7. Tell me what is preventing him from taking heat off the ball. What explanation do you have? None. There's no other logically explanation other than he just won't listen and refuses. He wants to show off his physical gifts and at this point cares more about #7 than that T on the helmet. You know like running out of bounds to end a game.
 
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Soooo you believe that 4 years of coaching and he just hasn't learned to not throw the ball like a rocket? Explain it to me and literally everyone else. There's several good athletes that never made it due to not listening to coaching and your looking at one in #7. Tell me what is preventing him from taking heat off the ball. What explanation do you have? None. There's no other logically explanation other than he just won't listen and refuses. He wants to show off his physical gifts and at this point cares more about #7 than that T on the helmet. You know like running out of bounds to end a game.
I assume your career as a detective was short.
 
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Soooo you believe that 4 years of coaching and he just hasn't learned to not throw the ball like a rocket? Explain it to me and literally everyone else. There's several good athletes that never made it due to not listening to coaching and your looking at one in #7. Tell me what is preventing him from taking heat off the ball. What explanation do you have? None. There's no other logically explanation other than he just won't listen and refuses. He wants to show off his physical gifts and at this point cares more about #7 than that T on the helmet. You know like running out of bounds to end a game.
Here’s a good breakdown of qb skills, and whether they are natural or developed. Milton doesn’t throw the ball too hard. The top qb’s in the nfl average a ball speed of 55+ mph on a crossing route. Milton has poor touch. He also has one of the strongest and most versatile arms in the country. QB’s work for years in touch, and some never get it. Read Kaepernick’s evaluation when he put together his last private tryout. He threw 100% of the throws including difficult throws like a 30 out, and 40 deep flag. He threw 60+ mph, but his touch on covered deep receivers was poor. He only worked on that twelve hours a day for ten years. It’s just ridiculous to say a kid throws a ball without touch out of defiance. He’d lose tens of millions of dollars on that choice. Everything we’ve heard about Milton says he’s a good teammate, he’s highly coachable, and he has poor touch (particularly under the lights). You’re just wrong.

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#35
As others have posted, running out of bounds against Ole Miss kinda did it for me. Lower his shoulder and initiate the contact with the defender in front of him. If he gets tackled, well, at least he tried. To run out of bounds on the last play of the game and a touchdown wins the game, no guts, no glory. Maybe Heupel can work magic with him before next season, as well as getting together with the wide receivers in the off season and try to establish a connection with them would improve his accuracy, but he has to get more physical to earn any trust as QB1.
 
#36
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I am very excited to have him back as our back up quarterback. You always hope you never have to use the backup, but you also don’t usually find one with so much experience. He seems like a good teammate. Hopefully he can work another off-season with Heupel and learn how to put some touch and accuracy on the ball. He definitely needs to work on that don’t get me wrong, I’m just saying it’s nice to have so much leadership and experience in the QB room. The football season is very long and you never know when you will need a key drive from your QB2.

I agree. He received a lot flack for his missed throws and the play at end of the OM game, but he still managed the offense well when he was in the game. He is definitely a strong option as QB2 as someone you know can give still give you a shot to win if Hooker happens to be out.
 
#40
#40
Makes no sense at all

Sure it does. I am glad we have a backup QB. Would be great if Heupel can ever help him realize 1/3 of his potential. Until that happens though, I hope he doesnt see the field because that means Hooker is down.
 
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I don’t think he can transfer again, and I think he likes football too much to just quit playing. He could wind up in the sec championship game if he stuck around

I asked this question a while back, and someone mentioned he could most likely transfer as a grad student.

Just an FYI. No idea if it's true or not.
 
#42
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Tell me what is preventing him from taking heat off the ball. What explanation do you have? None. There's no other logically explanation other than he just won't listen and refuses. He wants to show off his physical gifts and at this point cares more about #7 than that T on the helmet.

Because "touch" isn't about just throwing the ball slower.

It's the same reason pitchers can't simply dial down velo to gain command. That ain't the way it works, chief.
 
#43
#43
This coaching staff has proven they know how to develop quarterbacks. Having this off season with Milton where they can focus on his development should spark a real improvement.

They'll spend the offseason addressing the issues he has, make him better for next year. I still see a lot of potential in him.

Jonathan Crompton was a guy that Kiffin turned around. Anyway, QB's can overcome their mental obstacles, even if Jg didn't.
 
#45
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Soooo you believe that 4 years of coaching and he just hasn't learned to not throw the ball like a rocket? Explain it to me and literally everyone else. There's several good athletes that never made it due to not listening to coaching and your looking at one in #7. Tell me what is preventing him from taking heat off the ball. What explanation do you have? None. There's no other logically explanation other than he just won't listen and refuses. He wants to show off his physical gifts and at this point cares more about #7 than that T on the helmet. You know like running out of bounds to end a game.

I don't think his bad play is purposeful. I just believe he lacks the instincts and perhaps the aptitude to be a good QB. Let's cross our fingers for Hookers health next season.
 
#46
#46
He's a good kid.

But he will never be a dependable QB.

He has his degree from Michigan already. I'm sure the kid is going to be successful in life. However, I hope he never has to play critical minutes again, while he's here.
I hope Hooker stays healthy all year, but I’d be thrilled if Milton had to come in and just killed it. I’ve felt bad for Milton since the first game; he’s got the arm to destroy opposing teams, but his accuracy was off and no one hated that more than Mr. Milton.
 
#47
#47
As others have posted, running out of bounds against Ole Miss kinda did it for me. Lower his shoulder and initiate the contact with the defender in front of him. If he gets tackled, well, at least he tried. To run out of bounds on the last play of the game and a touchdown wins the game, no guts, no glory. Maybe Heupel can work magic with him before next season, as well as getting together with the wide receivers in the off season and try to establish a connection with them would improve his accuracy, but he has to get more physical to earn any trust as QB1.
It was the worst possible play and very revealing about him; everything else does not matter to me I am not excited nor glad he is our back up quarterback!
 
#48
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2023 QB1. If Jackson or Iamaleva come in and take the job I suspect that he’ll continue being a great teammate
 
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#49
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Problem is his inconsistency and poor decision making at times. For every good pass he makes, he has 2-3 poor/off target throws.
Poor decision making? I must have missed that trend. He had an early season habit of poor overthrows then he ran out of bounds with the game on the line. Other than that I really don’t have a problem with his performance. Not perfect by any stretch but not nearly as bad as ppl hear make him seem imo.
 
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Poor decision making? I must have missed that trend. He had an early season habit of poor overthrows then he ran out of bounds with the game on the line. Other than that I really don’t have a problem with his performance. Not perfect by any stretch but not nearly as bad as ppl hear make him seem imo.
If Tillman would have grabbed the potential game winning catch vs. Ole Miss people would feel way differently about him. He shouldn't be the starter but he's a much better backup than the people on here would lead you to believe. It's been a long time since we've had a more competent backup.
 

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