JG is not the problem

#52
#52
His first pass is out of bounds by 7 feet....His next pass is a rocket pass to a running back 8 feet away......This was a good indication this was not going to be a good day for JG....

Did the team even practice defense against a spread attack offense? Our guys were lost most of the time.

Bad day!
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
JG IS THE PROBLEM.

His stats are deceiving. Dude has no energy, is mopey, and can’t read the broad side of a barn of blitzing defenses. Took one straight to the back bc he has no vision. Threw a HORRIBLE interception, and fumbled twice. 3 turnovers a direct result of JG
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But if you had only attended the advanced cherry picking stats class for JG's performance, you would see clearly that JG had a above average day... and we all ought to look elsewhere for blame.

Its the same BS as last year...
 
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gisman said:
This is exactly how I see it. I think JG is a huge problem. If he was doing his part that game is over quickly. Get the ball in the playmakers hands and the run game would open up, but he couldn't do this unless the guy was wide open.

Watching Trevor Lawrence you can see the difference. He throws a ball that arrives in a position to catch and make a play. JG throws a ball that may get there, but many times it is all the receiver can do is catch the ball and they are off balance to advance the ball. That is completely on JG.
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You make some good points but the bolded one is the best.

The book is written on JG. DC's know he can beat them with his arm but they also know that his decisions are not consistent enough to do it. GSU was pretty much sold out to stop the run yesterday. (The fact remains that UT should be able to run it anyway but that's a separate issue) So their LB's are charging the LOS daring UT to try to win with the passing game. They know they'll give up yardage but at some point JG is going to read the coverage wrong and fail to convert a 3rd down.

I really hoped his decision making would have improved but it didn't look like it vs a 2-10 mid major.
 
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TitanicVolz said:
JG team can’t tell him where the first down marker is,he should known that and fought for every yard.Dobbs woulda backflipped for the first If he had to.2nd u get a db blitz where dude has no one blocking him JG looks rite at him snaps the ball and proceeds to get cooked and fumbled.Okay next drivE SAME dB blitz JG sees it no audible no attempt to move anyone to cover the dB etc.Bam another sack.I mean the whole team had issues but those are things rookies can handle so why he hasn’t mastered the basics yet baffles me.
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i agree with those few things, but run blocking is one of the first things o lineman learn, yet describe what our running game looks like because i haven't seen it. then there's pressure up the middle, ridiculous. oh, and gray spent a lot of time in the backfield so maybe those blitzes were to be picked up by him.......wait, he did pick up one and the db ran right thru him and sacked JG. but yet, with and thru those things JG is supposed to perform miracles because "Dobbs did". newsflash.....they're not anywhere near the same type of players. oh, and neither dormady nor chryst could under similar circumstances so that tells you its not the QB, its what is around him. sure he makes mistakes at times......no one is saying he's perfect......i mean who is? but you cant put a bomb arse engine in a shytty car!
 
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lexkyvol said:
Probably because JG doesn't have the talent Burrow has around him. Nowhere near the rb, wrs, OLINE,etc.. You are/ would be f'ing crazy to even suggest otherwise!
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How much more talent do we need on the receiving corps to be able to score on Georgia State? Which Receivers exactly are deficient in terms of talent?
 
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GAfan2123 said:
93 yards rushing for an average of 3.0 yards per carry, and fans are blaming JG who threw for 311 yards and 2 touchdowns? 77% of the yards on the game came from JG

If Chaney can not establish a run game then it seems his game plan consistently falls apart.

UGA vs Auburn in the 40-17 loss, there was 46 rushing yards for 1.4 yards per carry

UGA vs LSU in the 36-16 loss, there was 113 rushing yards for 3.8 yards per carry

UGA vs Texas in the 28-21 loss, there was 72 yards rushing for 2.4 yards per carry

If Chaney fails to establish a run game of any kind then the games consistently end up flat.

3 turnovers, a pitiful defense, and lack of a run game along with many other things were problems. While JG could have done better, he was far from the top of the list of problems
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Says the UGA fan who expects to give UT an azzwhoopin with JG as the signal caller.
 
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lexkyvol said:
i agree with those few things, but run blocking is one of the first things o lineman learn, yet describe what our running game looks like because i haven't seen it. then there's pressure up the middle, ridiculous. oh, and gray spent a lot of time in the backfield so maybe those blitzes were to be picked up by him.......wait, he did pick up one and the db ran right thru him and sacked JG. but yet, with and thru those things JG is supposed to perform miracles because "Dobbs did". newsflash.....they're not anywhere near the same type of players. oh, and neither dormady nor chryst could under similar circumstances so that tells you its not the QB, its what is around him. sure he makes mistakes at times......no one is saying he's perfect......i mean who is? but you cant put a bomb arse engine in a shytty car!
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A qbs and coaches tendencies have a lot to do with how defensive coordinators game plan to stop you. If you were a def coordinator how would you game plan vs UT right now? You know JG will check down vs going deep so you counter with single coverage and 1 or no safety. You know Pruitt comes off as conservative and mistake free qb play. So you counter by taking your chances that it’s unlikely to be a deep passing attack. Both tendencies = a loaded box. Which puts them in better position to stop the run and short passing game. It’s not the o lines fault that there are more in the box than they can block. Pruitt and JG gotta beat defenses out of that strategy. Simple as that.
 
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GAfan2123 said:
93 yards rushing for an average of 3.0 yards per carry, and fans are blaming JG who threw for 311 yards and 2 touchdowns? 77% of the yards on the game came from JG

If Chaney can not establish a run game then it seems his game plan consistently falls apart.

UGA vs Auburn in the 40-17 loss, there was 46 rushing yards for 1.4 yards per carry

UGA vs LSU in the 36-16 loss, there was 113 rushing yards for 3.8 yards per carry

UGA vs Texas in the 28-21 loss, there was 72 yards rushing for 2.4 yards per carry

If Chaney fails to establish a run game of any kind then the games consistently end up flat.

3 turnovers, a pitiful defense, and lack of a run game along with many other things were problems. While JG could have done better, he was far from the top of the list of problems
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We didn't lose because of him, but he isn't very good. You can't put it all on him, but you can't say he is part of the solution either
 
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#62
Imagine being JP...

1.The D can't line up
2. 2 or your 3 best OL are FR and they play tackle, which if you start them both is basically suicide, the best OL you have is on a pitch count.
3. Your QB is a bad decision waiting to happen
4. FR are taking older players jobs (competition isn't a bad thing, but there's a limit to how many young guys you want to play major snaps.)

A lot of this is the coaching staff and his responsibility to correct, and there's no excuse for yesterday... However, that's some SERIOUS issues to solve and I don't know how you solve them without player development and recruiting. Which takes A LOT of time.
 
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#63
How many posters are going to respond to the OP with “he ain’t the solution either” or some variation? I’ve counted 5 already.
 
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BeardedVol said:
How much more talent do we need on the receiving corps to be able to score on Georgia State? Which Receivers exactly are deficient in terms of talent?
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Good questions.

Curious to see how they are answered, if answered at all.
 
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vols 30 said:
JG is part of the problem, but...

The biggest issue is the coaching staff not treating GA ST as a serious opponent. Not prepared is what I've heard from a couple of players

2nd biggest. The defense has actually went from bad to worse. Slow and out of position. WR's catching the ball with a DB 7 or more yards away.

While the offense has issues, they did manage to score some points
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The offense and defense were both incompetent and the blame is on the staff and players. When all you get is 3 FG's from the end of the 1st quarter until the last drive of the game against GEORGIA STATE then you got some problems. We couldn't even connect on a long pass that wasn't a bust against GEORGIA STATE. And I find it incredibly odd that we seem to have the worst blocking OL year after year. There seems to be something in play that we as fans are missing. Who is responsible for the audibles and blocking calls? Does the QB ever spot a pre-snap blitz and alert the RB? Maybe it just isn't noticeable from television.

Don't get me started of some of the defensive players. I saw play after play with players getting sucked inside, losing the battle of the pile push, etc. Win a 1 on 1 for a change. I feel more for the new guys that aren't used to this type of losing. The veterans seem like they need to be cycled out.
 
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Put him on a decent team with decent coaching and I guarantee he'd look great.
 
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Yesterday at 5:30 PM#1,915
I don’t see all the complaining about the O Line play... JG hasn’t been hit yet! We have also run the ball when we wanted to! It’s just a fact JG is an average QB at best.....
Takes forever to make decisions, locks in on his receivers and has absolutely no idea where he’s at on the field ! We will be average at best with him leading this offense...
Defense will improve as the year goes on....
Offense will remain the same until they change the QB or we get Bailey here next year!
All I can say is either JG is one heck of a practice player and our backups are NOT!

Flame Away! It’s just the TRUTH

Great comments in the game thread yesterday! This was said by volfan1nc. Our offense and team need a quarterback change, JG is a liability.
 
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#71
Won't win an important game until JG is out of knoxville or not playing a snap again

Said during game yesterday by volunt33rs. He’s right.
 
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GAfan2123 said:
93 yards rushing for an average of 3.0 yards per carry, and fans are blaming JG who threw for 311 yards and 2 touchdowns? 77% of the yards on the game came from JG

If Chaney can not establish a run game then it seems his game plan consistently falls apart.

UGA vs Auburn in the 40-17 loss, there was 46 rushing yards for 1.4 yards per carry

UGA vs LSU in the 36-16 loss, there was 113 rushing yards for 3.8 yards per carry

UGA vs Texas in the 28-21 loss, there was 72 yards rushing for 2.4 yards per carry

If Chaney fails to establish a run game of any kind then the games consistently end up flat.

3 turnovers, a pitiful defense, and lack of a run game along with many other things were problems. While JG could have done better, he was far from the top of the list of problems
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My goodness....

It never ends
 
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Volfaninfl2 said:
Yesterday at 5:30 PM#1,915
I don’t see all the complaining about the O Line play... JG hasn’t been hit yet! We have also run the ball when we wanted to! It’s just a fact JG is an average QB at best.....
Takes forever to make decisions, locks in on his receivers and has absolutely no idea where he’s at on the field ! We will be average at best with him leading this offense...
Defense will improve as the year goes on....
Offense will remain the same until they change the QB or we get Bailey here next year!
All I can say is either JG is one heck of a practice player and our backups are NOT!

Flame Away! It’s just the TRUTH

Great comments in the game thread yesterday! This was said by volfan1nc. Our offense and team need a quarterback change, JG is a liability.
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Bailey has a lot he’ll have to improve before he’s as ready as people and maybe even he realizes. Not only will he be a year behind in learning the playbook but he also has a lot of the same flaws JG has. They’re just masked by how dominant the team is around him. He seems to play on 📺 every week. Next time you watch him play pay attention to his presnap and immediate post snap. He doesn’t go through his progressions. His receivers are pre selected. Especially deep routes. He has good ball placement skills but that won’t work in the SEC where the DBs are equally as talented as the receiver he’s throwing it up to in dbl coverage. Arik Gilbert is basically a cheat code in HS but that equals out at the next level and that’s where qbs from dominant HS teams fall short at this level. Which is why most of them choose schools that are already established at the top. #trevorlawrence
 
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#74
Ryan Leaf just said what I was thinking. Why does every JG pass make our WR's go to the ground? Very few times do his passes put our WR's in a position to make plays after the catch.

Brave Volunteer said yesterday.

So many aspects to bad QB play by JG.
 
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99gator said:
JG is part of the problem, but he's way down the list.

DE
DT
LB
CB
S
OL
Strength and Conditioning program

These areas are more problematic.
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No..no. No!

You keep at this crap that he's not the problem.
Yet I'm sure you would start him against Florida, as a Florida fan.
 
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