JG #2 QB in nation under pressure and #4 overall in SEC

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FLVOL_79 said:
Analogy is fine. It shows that cherry picking most stats does not paint the whole picture. People desperately want JG to be a great QB because UT is stuck with him for 2 more years. No sane person says "yeah, this is the guy I want leading the sports team I root for!"..

Maybe he can turn the corner next year and learn how to read a defense, or scramble effectively, or notice incoming pressure, or not stare down his receivers, or handle the speed of the game. One of the worst teams in Tennessee history beat two ranked teams this year, anything is possible.
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He is the guy right now. He can read a defense. He can handle the speed of the game. Why? Because Pruitt says he is the starter. Pruitt has said time and time again that the best oerson plays. We know this is true because of the guys he has played this season. So what, he is just going to sit the better QB for the simple fact that he is stuck with JG? That makes perfect sense. Perfect example of why the crticisims are moot.

Kind of strange how the OL plays very good and the offense looks great. Sports analysts have said it. Coaches have said it. Broadcasters have said it. The biggest problem is our OL. Not JG. Now, I guess they all could be wrong and the people on VN who have zero ability to accurately judge a QB are right. But sorry, I tend to think coaches and analysts know vastly more about football then the casual fan.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
He is the guy right now. He can read a defense. He can handle the speed of the game. Why? Because Pruitt says he is the starter. Pruitt has said time and time again that the best oerson plays. We know this is true because of the guys he has played this season. So what, he is just going to sit the better QB for the simple fact that he is stuck with JG? That makes perfect sense. Perfect example of why the crticisims are moot.

Kind of strange how the OL plays very good and the offense looks great. Sports analysts have said it. Coaches have said it. Broadcasters have said it. The biggest problem is our OL. Not JG. Now, I guess they all could be wrong and the people on VN who have zero ability to accurately judge a QB are right. But sorry, I tend to think coaches and analysts know vastly more about football then the casual fan.
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The last two UT coaches agree with you....

He is the guy right now because he is the only thing Pruitt has. He cant read a defense and he can't handle he speed of the game. The time he spends on the ground proves that. Is the o-line the biggest problem? Yes. But JG doesn't do himself any good by not being better at playing the foosball. The offense looked good.... against Kentucky. Everyone is foaming at the mouth over it because its been terrible for 2 years and any shimmer of non mediocrity makes people crazy and all of a sudden UT is in contention for something.

The quicker Pruitt can get JG and the offensive line to graduation and off campus the better the team will be.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Analogy is fine. It shows that cherry picking most stats does not paint the whole picture. People desperately want JG to be a great QB because UT is stuck with him for 2 more years. No sane person says "yeah, this is the guy I want leading the sports team I root for!"..

Maybe he can turn the corner next year and learn how to read a defense, or scramble effectively, or notice incoming pressure, or not stare down his receivers, or handle the speed of the game. One of the worst teams in Tennessee history beat two ranked teams this year, anything is possible.
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In one of those 2 wins vs ranked teams , who was named offensive player of the week for all of FBS?

Who is the 2nd ranked QB while under pressure ?
Will hang up and listen
 
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thegasman54 said:
In one of those 2 wins vs ranked teams , who was named offensive player of the week for all of FBS?

Who is the 2nd ranked QB while under pressure ?
Will hang up and listen
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Also, that Auburn defense is a highly regarded group that will have guys playing on Sundays on it. UK has a very good defense. The sad part is, there are some that will just refuse to accept what the coaches know. That JG is a good QB. He isnt elite. But the is good.
 
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Something even I keep forgetting... the dude has started 16 games I think. Hes a RS Soph behind a terrible OL in a new offense, new HC. Perhaps we should stop assuming he isnt going to be a top QB until this time next year when the supporting cast is better too.
 
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TJ1985 said:
Your obsession with JG bashing is embarrassing.
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You're right. I should really be excited about that 2nd Best QB Under Pressure Moral Victory Award. Can't believe I didn't jump on the mediocrity is ok bandwagon sooner!!
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
You're right. I should really be excited about that 2nd Best QB Under Pressure Moral Victory Award. Can't believe I didn't jump on the mediocrity is ok bandwagon sooner!!
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Please explain how a QB being the second overall in fbs under pressure is a moral victory ?
 
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thegasman54 said:
Please explain how a QB being the second overall in fbs under pressure is a moral victory ?
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Ill answer your question with a question. How does his 2nd ranking in passing under pressure translate to touchdowns and wins? That is what matters correct? This isn't AYSO Pop Warner Upward Over 40 YMCA football.

Go look at the QB rankings by touchdowns thrown. Now before you get to JG's rank of 77..what common theme can you find?
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
You're right. I should really be excited about that 2nd Best QB Under Pressure Moral Victory Award. Can't believe I didn't jump on the mediocrity is ok bandwagon sooner!!
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So let me get this straight, you have been criticizing JG for having a high completion percentage and now for being good under pressure? Are you mad about his lack of interceptions as well? You do realize these are all positive attributes, right?
 
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TJ1985 said:
So let me get this straight, you have been criticizing JG for having a high completion percentage and now for being good under pressure? Are you mad about his lack of interceptions as well? You do realize these are all positive attributes, right?
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I dont criticize him for his high completion percentage but lack of actually putting points on the board to win games. One would think with JG's amazing completion % and being the 2nd best under pressure those passes would translate to TD's, but they don't. But maybe, just maybe, I've been watching Tennessee play in some alternate dimension thanks to chemtrails and solar flares where there and only there have they barely achieved a .500 by the skin of their teeth.
 
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Someone earlier on another thread said if Mizzou scores over 30 points they don't think UT will win.

UT has scored over 30 points 1 time this season....against ETSU.

Come on D!
 
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Boca Vol said:
Someone earlier on another thread said if Mizzou scores over 30 points they don't think UT will win.

UT has scored over 30 points 1 time this season....against ETSU.

Come on D!
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Yeah. Any team scoring 30 on our Vols is walking away victorious. The Defense needs to show up like last week, its their only hope.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I dont criticize him for his high completion percentage but lack of actually putting points on the board to win games. One would think with JG's amazing completion % and being the 2nd best under pressure those passes would translate to TD's, but they don't. But maybe, just maybe, I've been watching Tennessee play in some alternate dimension thanks to chemtrails and solar flares where there and only there have they barely achieved a .500 by the skin of their teeth.
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So you claim this is one of the worst teams in UT history but a .500 record with two wins vs top 25 teams is bad?

Its not JG's fault that they like to run in the redzone. TDs are literally the only stat you can complain about.

He is middle of the pack SEC while being among the qbs with the least attempts. He has more tds than 5 SEC qbs with more attempts.

Tua and Fromm on the best two teams by far are the only ones with low attempts and high tds.

Having good stats and leading one of our worst teams ever to two top 25 wins and possibly a bowl is pretty good.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I dont criticize him for his high completion percentage but lack of actually putting points on the board to win games. One would think with JG's amazing completion % and being the 2nd best under pressure those passes would translate to TD's, but they don't. But maybe, just maybe, I've been watching Tennessee play in some alternate dimension thanks to chemtrails and solar flares where there and only there have they barely achieved a .500 by the skin of their teeth.
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I've read multiple posts from you where you mocked his high completion percentage.

Listen, I haven't seen anyone compare JG to the Tennessee greats or list him among the current greats. I think most of his supporters appreciate his toughness and have seen positive growth this season. He's been getting killed all year and has still managed to put up decent stats. We all want to win and to see our qb throw for +20 touchdowns a season. But, it takes a little help to do that. I just wonder why you haven't been as openly critical of our line as you have the guy getting killed as a result of poor line play. I think I know the answer. You've so adamantly stated your case agaisnt JG that you can't bring yourself to say anything positive at all because your pride is getting in the way. Whatever bud, you do you.

And, showing support for JG and appreciating his progress isn't accepting mediocrity. It's being a fan of a young man that's lays it all on the line for this team.
 
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I'm in the thread about, lol, I thought. Doesn't really matter, it's a sign of the times that we're putting much into that stat.
 
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