Jerry Colquitt critical of Dooley on starting Worley

[Calculon]

"It's one thing to be critical but this sounds like some personal beef Colquitt has w/ CDD... I always felt sympathy for Colquitt after his injury in '94 but now he's showing a real lack of class!"

Or maybe he is showing a former player of the games inside knowledge

He is showing how uneducated our former players can be. UT, under Dooley, can fix that.
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[VolBeef88]

He is not a true fan. And def not a VFL. How dare he question DD. The nerve!

Get him goobs!
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[VolBeef88]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job. To a guy who will be gone in a few years.
They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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[UTMVol76]

Wow

 

[rmsmith]

Theres no reason to be critical til the game is over

And I wish you could ignore on mobile skin
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[bpalmer28]

Wow

Just have to "ignore thread" and walk away at this point.

 

[UTMVol76]

I have no issue with the thread, found the topic interesting to say the least.

 

[volumnus]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job. To a guy who will be gone in a few years.
They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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You can hate Dooley for whatever reason you choose. I have given Dooley hell about this, that, and the other over the last few months, but your point is totally baseless. Dooley had no choice other than to play Worley. Simms isn't talented enough for us to beat a fiesty Vandy squad. Moreover, Tennessee has lost confidence. If we don't qualify for a bowl game, we will lose money, practice time, and most importantly, we will lose ground in recruiting. Lose lose situation. Worley would almost certainly be in favor of playing now. The kid will likely start the last five games. How is that burning his redshirt? Five starts! That's practically half the season. Next year we will have an experienced backup. Bray will likely head to the pros at the end of 2012. Worley will be extremely prepared to lead the team in 2013 and 2014. Your argument is "pathetic".

 

[Cartervol]

You can hate Dooley for whatever reason you choose. I have given Dooley hell about this, that, and the other over the last few months, but your point is totally baseless. Dooley had no choice other than to play Worley. Simms isn't talented enough for us to beat a fiesty Vandy squad. Moreover, Tennessee has lost confidence. If we don't qualify for a bowl game, we will lose money, practice time, and most importantly, we will lose ground in recruiting. Lose lose situation. Worley would almost certainly be in favor of playing now. The kid will likely start the last five games. How is that burning his redshirt? Five starts! That's practically half the season. Next year we will have an experienced backup. Bray will likely head to the pros at the end of 2012. Worley will be extremely prepared to lead the team in 2013 and 2014. Your argument is "moronic".

FYP

Stability right now is #1. All those things he said may be true, but if he can't figure out that going through yet another coaching change right now is anything other than a death sentence. Well then he's a moron.

 

[VolBeef88]

You can hate Dooley for whatever reason you choose. I have given Dooley hell about this, that, and the other over the last few months, but your point is totally baseless. Dooley had no choice other than to play Worley. Simms isn't talented enough for us to beat a fiesty Vandy squad. Moreover, Tennessee has lost confidence. If we don't qualify for a bowl game, we will lose money, practice time, and most importantly, we will lose ground in recruiting. Lose lose situation. Worley would almost certainly be in favor of playing now. The kid will likely start the last five games. How is that burning his redshirt? Five starts! That's practically half the season. Next year we will have an experienced backup. Bray will likely head to the pros at the end of 2012. Worley will be extremely prepared to lead the team in 2013 and 2014. Your argument is "pathetic".

You don't get it. I don't hate Dooley. Never said I did. I'll bet you $1000 you cannot find where I have said that. But the blind devotion to the guy and willingness to turn on former players or anyone else critical of him is beyond belief.
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[emzeeee]

You don't get it. I don't hate Dooley. Never said I did. I'll bet you $1000 you cannot find where I have said that. But the blind devotion to the guy and willingness to turn on former players or anyone else critical of him is beyond belief.
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He's a former player that holds no consequence.

 

[ncvol17]

Well.

I guess we won't have any more Colquitt's kicking for us while CDD is coaching.

Seems pretty negative for an old kicker.

You sound like a REAL fan, of what team I am not sure, but not the Vols. Nice knowledge of history. Boy, that Reggie White was sure a good DB in the 85 season wasn't he?Almost ran back a TD in the Sugar Bowl. TIC.

 

[TBtheGBwiththeTD]

He's a former player that holds no consequence.

He's barely a former player. Guy was too brittle to even stay on the field for more than 1 real snap.

 

[sjt18]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job.

Nope. It isn't good to pre-judge Dooley specifically because it is bad for the UT football program to do that. It has the potential to hurt player morale. It has potential to hurt recruiting. It has potential to hurt the enthusiasm of unwary fans.

Most have no particular devotion to Dooley... they're just smart enough to know that UT's fortunes and his are currently one and the same.

To a guy who will be gone in a few years.

Maybe. But why is that so personally important to you... because of what you predict to happen? And you call others stupid? If he goes he goes... just stay out of the way and let him earn it either way.

They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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Colquitt is expressing an opinion that is simply unfounded and baseless. If you could get to the bottom line... he's probably still stinging because Fulmer was let go and along with him blind loyalty to players over the good of the program. Fulmer's way is dead. It doesn't work anymore. You MUST play the best players. You CAN'T reward mediocrity or worse simply because a guy stays around.

Colquitt's assumption that "you stay, you play" is revealed in two different ways. One, he apparently thinks Simms should remain the starter in spite of what his poor play is doing to the attitudes and results of his young teammates. Two, he assumes that if Worley is around for his 4th and 5th year he'll be the starter.

Again, that method just doesn't work anymore if it ever really did.

 

[tvols75]

You don't get it. I don't hate Dooley. Never said I did. I'll bet you $1000 you cannot find where I have said that. But the blind devotion to the guy and willingness to turn on former players or anyone else critical of him is beyond belief.
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Peyton Manning loves the guy. So are you turning on him by ignoring his comments on Coach Dooley? You can't have it both ways.

 

[2ironVol]

Why do people in Tennessee suck so bad at math? What is this "deny him the opportunity to start for two years" business?

Bray isn't going to stay for his Senior year. Worley will start his Junior and Senior year... 1 + 1 = 2. It is VERY common for college QBs to start for 2 years. I don't know the statistics but I'd be surprised if the norm is more or less than that.

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and started as a sophomore and then as a junior. Who's to say he wouldn't leave for the NFL before his senior season?

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and Tennessee goes 5-7 followed by back to back 7-5 seasons.. Dooley most likely would be fired and Worley would be learning a new offense in 2014 as a senior. How fair would that be?

Also.. let's assume Dooley stuck with Simms all the way up to the Vanderbilt game. The game is tied and we are fighting for a bowl appearance when all of a sudden.. Simms gets hurt enough that he has to come out of the game. Dooley has no choice to burn Worley's redshirt and looking back we're all like "dang it. i bet we could have beat south carolina with worley at qb."

The moral of the story is this. Play to win the game and you'll have less regrets. I understand the importance of building toward the future but at some point you have to WIN. Dooley is wrapping up his 2nd year as head coach and if he doesn't start winning, he won't be around to see Worley start a game in 2014 wheter it be as a junior or as a senior. His time to start winning is NOW. It sucks that Worley is losing his redshirt in the process but right now the most important thing to Tennessee's football program and the most important thing to Dooley as a husband and father is for Tennessee to play in a bowl game.

I suppose the same reason people in Tennessee suck at math is why they are so delusional.

What on earth makes you think Bray will skip his senior season for the NFL? While he has an extremely strong arm and a seemingly firm grasp of the offense, I can promise his play hasn't been indicative of someone that will be leaving early. He has too many weaknesses at this point to be considering it.

Ease up young man and do some research

 

[2ironVol]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job. To a guy who will be gone in a few years.
They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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I am stunned at how someone so lost out on reality has been given a guru status. Believe me brother, you are no guru. Not in this sport anyway.

Colquitt's comments were inappropriate at best. For you not to realize it shows your lack of maturity. It has nothing to do with supporting Dooley over the University. Those claims you keep making are abusurd and downright stupid.

 

[WA_Vol]

Colquitt thinks Worley's is wasting his redshirt season to play in a game UT can't win and would be better off playing Simms, assuming UT could beat Vandy and Kentucky with Simms. Dooley thinks you need to play the best player available and helps the team the most win.

I agree with Dooley, and not only that, Worley is from SC and would get to start against SC, I'm sure that is something Worley is excited about. But I don't think any less of Colquitt because he doesn't agree with Dooley. You can't disagree with the HC and be a true fan? I don't get that. He doesn't agree with the HC, let the man have a right to a differing opinion.

 

[tvols75]

Colquitt thinks Worley's is wasting his redshirt season to play in a game UT can't win and would be better off playing Simms, assuming UT could beat Vandy and Kentucky with Simms. Dooley thinks you need to play the best player available and helps the team the most win.

I agree with Dooley, and not only that, Worley is from SC and would get to start against SC, I'm sure that is something Worley is excited about. But I don't think any less of Colquitt because he doesn't agree with Dooley. You can't disagree with the HC and be a true fan? I don't get that. He doesn't agree with the HC, let the man have a right to a differing opinion.

I could care less what anyone's opinion is. But if I'm not mistaken Colquitt was acting like Dooley was going to use Worley as some sort of scapegoat. That is going from an opinion to getting personal.

 

[theutvolunteers]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job. To a guy who will be gone in a few years.
They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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Yeah, how dare we support the guy who is here now over some guy from 15yrs ago. He is obviously bitter about something. I choose not to support that. Would rather support Dooley who is working his ass off to get things straightened out.
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[fishheadspin]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job. To a guy who will be gone in a few years.
They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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it is called giving a guy a chance...dooley has not had a chance to coach a real full team. give him a chance if in 2 more years it is the same then i will lead the freakin choir to have him fired! Truth is he is cleaning up the mess that the 2 previous coaches left!

And give Worley a chance! yes he is young but why go on about how sorry you feel for him because he is sure to lose! He may have a great game. the team may rally around him.

i wonder what Colquitt would say about Simms starting another game and giving us NO chance to win. Simms has had his chance, last year and again last week. There has been not improvement and it is time to move on or risk having the rest of the team suffering from his inability.

Potential out weighs inability!!!

 

[Vols4us]

I suppose the same reason people in Tennessee suck at math is why they are so delusional.

What on earth makes you think Bray will skip his senior season for the NFL? While he has an extremely strong arm and a seemingly firm grasp of the offense, I can promise his play hasn't been indicative of someone that will be leaving early. He has too many weaknesses at this point to be considering it.

Ease up young man and do some research

This.

 

[zidanefan]

Colquitt thinks Worley's is wasting his redshirt season to play in a game UT can't win and would be better off playing Simms, assuming UT could beat Vandy and Kentucky with Simms. Dooley thinks you need to play the best player available and helps the team the most win.

I agree with Dooley, and not only that, Worley is from SC and would get to start against SC, I'm sure that is something Worley is excited about. But I don't think any less of Colquitt because he doesn't agree with Dooley. You can't disagree with the HC and be a true fan? I don't get that. He doesn't agree with the HC, let the man have a right to a differing opinion.

I didn't read the entire thread - went from first page to last and figure that gives me a good enough sample of what's been said.

I agree with everything you've said. Regarding the bolded portion, however, I don't view disagreement with a coach as a measure of "true fandom." I think it has to do with recognizing what impact the comments might have on the program, or how it may be perceived as a result of said comments. I look at Jerry's remarks and say, "What's the point?" They appear to be nothing more than a very obvious personal attack on Dooley. Fair enough, but what does that accomplish?

I think Jerry should have a look at...

 

[CountVolcula]

I'm stunned at how stupid our fan base has become. How devoted to a coach over the team they have become. To the point where they are blinded by devotion to a guy who has a losing record here and his last job. To a guy who will be gone in a few years.
They turn their backs on guys who actually played here in order to support their new savior. Pathetic
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Says the guy that can tell what Fulmer had to eat from sniffing his jock

 

[bleedorange0037]

Peyton Manning loves the guy. So are you turning on him by ignoring his comments on Coach Dooley? You can't have it both ways.

But Manning also supported Fulmer 3 years ago, and 90% of this website disagreed with him. Does that mean people automatically turned their back on him by having a dissenting opinion? Not marching in lock-step with Peyton Manning's opinion of who should or shouldn't be UT's caoch doesn't make someone any less supportive of what's best for this football program.