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Trump told Palm Beach police chief ‘thank goodness you’re stopping’ Epstein, called Ghislaine Maxwell ‘evil’ in 2006 phone call: FBI document​


Donald Trump personally called the police chief of Palm Beach, Fla., in 2006 to thank him for investigating Jeffrey Epstein — and told him to “focus on” the disgraced financier’s “evil” accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, according to a newly released FBI document.

According to the summary of an October 2019 interview of Michael Reiter, who served as the wealthy Florida enclave’s top cop from 2001 to 2009, the future president was “one of the very first people to call when people found out” that authorities were investigating Epstein for sex with girls as young as 14 whom he had hired to give him massages.

“Thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this,” Trump was quoted as telling Reiter on the call, adding that he “got the hell out of there” on one occasion when he was around Epstein while teenagers were present.

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Trump told Palm Beach police chief ‘thank goodness you’re stopping’ Epstein, called Ghislaine Maxwell ‘evil’ in 2006 phone call: FBI document

“Thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this.”
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So Trump knew he was doing horrible things with 14 year olds but kept his mouth shut?

World class fella
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Looks like the reason that Epstein was trying to get dirt to help bring down Trump was because Trump was the one who called the police on him in 2006, securing his first investigation and likely conviction.

Weird again that Trump would do that if he were implicated in child rape with him
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After Epstein’s arrest in July 2019, Trump said “I had no idea” when asked if he knew about his former friend’s abuse of teenage girls.

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Ex-Florida police chief claims Trump told him ‘everyone’ knew what Epstein was doing in 2006

Former police chief Michael Reiter claims Trump also said ‘thank goodness you’re stopping’ Epstein in 2006 phone call
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Having sole authority is not ithe question. When he can exercise that sole authority is. Your citation refers to EO 11485 which grants supervision

The correct answer is "no, the president cannot send troops into DC city requested by the mayor, or to federal grounds unless requested by the Capitol Police Board."
In the case of DC - and having not statehood nor a governor - in most respects the mayor acts as a governor. In the case of the capitol - being the seat of Congress - the CPB acts as the separation of powers agent by requesting troops.
The CPB consists of the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol. The two SAAs are the chief law enforcement officers of their respective chambers and work for the respective chamber leaders, in this instance Pelosi and Schumer.

Trump had authorized DCNG assistance; that assistance was offered by DOD on Jan 3, and rejected.
Mayor Bowser had requested routine troop assistance of about 340 troops who were already in DC and assigned duties. She issued an emergency request for more on Jan 6 at 1:34pm. The Capitol Police Board did not request troop support until 2:10pm. As Trump had already authorized assistance, those requests were made to DOD.

Meanwhile:
-- U.S. Capitol Police Chief Sund began calling for troops at 12:58, calling House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving first., then Senate Sergeant at Arms Michael Stenger at 1:05 p.m..
-- He urgently called the Capitol Police Board and the D.C. National Guard, including requests at 1:34 p.m., 1:39 p.m., and 1:45 p.m..
-- He called D.C. National Guard Commander Major General William J. Walker at 1:49 p.m.

Most of these things have been known for years;.
 
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NCFisher said:
Having sole authority is not ithe question. When he can exercise that sole authority is. Your citation refers to EO 11485 which grants supervision

The correct answer is "no, the president cannot send troops into DC city requested by the mayor, or to federal grounds unless requested by the Capitol Police Board."
In the case of DC - and having not statehood nor a governor - in most respects the mayor acts as a governor. In the case of the capitol - being the seat of Congress - the CPB acts as the separation of powers agent by requesting troops.
The CPB consists of the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol. The two SAAs are the chief law enforcement officers of their respective chambers and work for the respective chamber leaders, in this instance Pelosi and Schumer.

Trump had authorized DCNG assistance; that assistance was offered by DOD on Jan 3, and rejected.
Mayor Bowser had requested routine troop assistance of about 340 troops who were already in DC and assigned duties. She issued an emergency request for more on Jan 6 at 1:34pm. The Capitol Police Board did not request troop support until 2:10pm. As Trump had already authorized assistance, those requests were made to DOD.

Meanwhile:
-- U.S. Capitol Police Chief Sund began calling for troops at 12:58, calling House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving first., then Senate Sergeant at Arms Michael Stenger at 1:05 p.m..
-- He urgently called the Capitol Police Board and the D.C. National Guard, including requests at 1:34 p.m., 1:39 p.m., and 1:45 p.m..
-- He called D.C. National Guard Commander Major General William J. Walker at 1:49 p.m.

Most of these things have been known for years;.
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Deploying the D.C. National Guard

The president’s concerning use of the D.C. National Guard relies on incredibly broad and outdated statutory law and a history of maximalist executive branch practice.
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I'd say an attempt to stop the certification of election through a violent assault on the capital building would have fulfilled 49-103.

Regardless, despite you and your fellow MAGAts parroting the nonsense, Nancy Pelosi had no authority to deploy the DC National Guard, as their deployment is at the discretion of the President.

Take your 'L' and accept that you didn't know what you were talking about.
 
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Deploying the D.C. National Guard

The president’s concerning use of the D.C. National Guard relies on incredibly broad and outdated statutory law and a history of maximalist executive branch practice.
www.lawfaremedia.org www.lawfaremedia.org
I'd say an attempt to stop the certification of election through a violent assault on the capital building would have fulfilled 49-103.

Regardless, despite you and your fellow MAGAts parroting the nonsense, Nancy Pelosi had no authority to deploy the DC National Guard, as their deployment is at the discretion of the President.

Take your 'L' and accept that you didn't know what you were talking about.
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They knew what they were doing and had clear intent on limiting the national guard in response to Trump's request to protect the demonstrators on that day.
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Deploying the D.C. National Guard

The president’s concerning use of the D.C. National Guard relies on incredibly broad and outdated statutory law and a history of maximalist executive branch practice.
www.lawfaremedia.org www.lawfaremedia.org
I'd say an attempt to stop the certification of election through a violent assault on the capital building would have fulfilled 49-103.

Regardless, despite you and your fellow MAGAts parroting the nonsense, Nancy Pelosi had no authority to deploy the DC National Guard, as their deployment is at the discretion of the President.

Take your 'L' and accept that you didn't know what you were talking about.
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Yeah, but no and you responded as I thought you would.
Any other day of the year except when Congress is NOT certifying an election, sure.

In the instance of certifying electoral votes on Jan 6, just no. The civilian controlled DOD was the proper locus for such response, having already been authorized to deploy upon request.
It's simplistic or purposeful bias not to understand this.
 
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Yeah, but no and you responded as I thought you would.
Any other day of the year except when Congress is NOT certifying an election, sure.

In the instance of certifying electoral votes on Jan 6, just no. The civilian controlled DOD was the proper locus for such response, having already been authorized to deploy upon request.
It's simplistic or purposeful bias not to understand this.
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You're still arguing from a position where you believe that the president doesn't have the sole ability to deploy the DC national guard, or to delegate the secretary of defense or the army to do so.

The basis for your argument is flat out factually incorrect, and no matter how much you try to pile on top it it, it will not change that fact.
 
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You're still arguing from a position where you believe that the president doesn't have the sole ability to deploy the DC national guard, or to delegate the secretary of defense or the army to do so.

The basis for your argument is flat out factually incorrect, and no matter how much you try to pile on top it it, it will not change that fact.
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Good grief, man; I have stated the exact opposite of that. Read it again.

What I argued is that the President can't simply send troops into DC or capitol grounds without request from the Mayor or CPB respectively. There was no insurrection to invoke the Insurrection Act.

But here, I'll make you happy - let's say it was an insurrection.
- There was no contingency plan because both the Mayor and CPB had rejected the notion that troops would be needed.
- There was standing authorization to provide troop assistance; all they had to do was ask since first offered on Jan 3.

Trump's speech had ended at 1:10pm.
Def. Sec. Chris Miller began acting on Bowser's call for troops at 1:38pm after hanging up.
CPB called for troops @ 2:10pm as the West entrance where the violence was concentrated, was breached between 2:11 and 2:16pm.
It was minutes after the breach that the Senate recessed, and minutes later the House recessed, as both chambers began evacuating.

See that timeline? What you imagine as some period when Trump should have authorized troops - in addition to having already done so - is the period people realize that not having a troop contingency means a spigot isn't going to begin raining them.

There are actual logistics that magic thinking doesn't overcome.
 
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