Jarrett Guarantano

[KBVol]

To say that Dormady is making calls at the line is just false. That never happens in Butch Jones system, the play is always changed at the sideline.

I am well past the Dormady transferring conversation, but obviously you aren't. I have been consistent that i believe he would get beat out not that he was a horrible QB, He just hasn't impressed IMHO. He found a way to win and looked pretty good in the second half against GT, but he had way to many mistakes to believe that he is ready for SEC play yet. You can say what you want but he has to improve before we get deep in SEC play or we are in trouble.

I believe that he can improve, but he is far from perfect. He just needs to feel more comfortable and changing QBs in and out of the game saturday did neither QB justice for their confidence or their rythmn in the game.

I hope Dormady succeeds, because if he does the Vols Succeed and that is all that matters! Go Vols!!!

I've never said QD is or was ever gonna be a perfect qb here. I was critical of his play vs GaTech while also praising the good that he's done in that game and then the Indy State game.

And I'll admit that I'm still a bit incredulous at your statement from back in the day about QD transferring pretty much before spring classes had even started back in 2015....don't dwell on it, just reminded of it occasionally when I read one of your posts on QD that's invariably, shall we say, less than flattering.

And for what it's worth, I believe I heard Jones say yesterday in his presser that he was impressed with how QD managed the first two games including with his checks in and out of plays.

 

[davethevol]

Dude, what is the source of your utter contempt for Quentin Dormady? It began within about a week of the first time the kid stepped on campus in January of 2015, when you predicted he'd transfer and never play here....and you've been beating the "Dormady sucks" drum ever since. I don't get it.

It's most likely because QD is too white. k-town is a racist. Anyone that's paid attention to his posts in the politics forum knows this.

 

[37620VOL]

This one, where the double in "double coverage" is a good 4-5 yards away from the receiver?

If he hangs that 9 inches higher, the defender 4-5 yards back has an easy interception.

QD had several better throws than that. The best one I saw was when he drilled one in to #5 on an RPO.

 

[johnrlansford]

Jones disputes your contention Dormady doesn't manage the offense.

Dormady manages the offense, as in gets people in position for the play, not changing and calling audibles at the line of scrimage. Jones has never said that ever!!!!!

 

[UTFootballFan]

It's obvious the JG apologists and fanboys are going to hold Dormady to the standard of perfection so they can beat the JG is better and should be starting as a RS freshman drum. It's obvious what they are doing and it has become rather trollesque.

If JG were the better option, he would be playing considering the relationship and history Jones has with daddy Guarantano. I actually believe Jones wants JG to be the one but he knows he's not up to it yet. It's a shame Jones hasn't come out in full support of his starter and keeps playing the competition mindd games. Jones needs to stop pitting vols against one another and start focusing on the Vols competing with the guys in different colored jerseys.

How about we support the team rather than continue to promote discontent. The Vols have enough enemies and detractors without those that claim to be fans attacking and beating down the players. When you have vol fans in your side who needs opponents?

 

[UTFootballFan]

Dormady manages the offense, as in gets people in position for the play, not changing and calling audibles at the line of scrimage. Jones has never said that ever!!!!!

You know for a fact he hasn't audibled or checked off to another play? Do you know for a fact JG has done it?

 

[johnrlansford]

I've never said QD is or was ever gonna be a perfect qb here. I was critical of his play vs GaTech while also praising the good that he's done in that game and then the Indy State game.

And I'll admit that I'm still a bit incredulous at your statement from back in the day about QD transferring pretty much before spring classes had even started back in 2015....don't dwell on it, just reminded of it occasionally when I read one of your posts on QD that's invariably, shall we say, less than flattering.

And for what it's worth, I believe I heard Jones say yesterday in his presser that he was impressed with how QD managed the first two games including with his checks in and out of plays.

The post wasn't flattering? All I said was Dormady scares me and he's gonna have to get better before SEC play, I think that is a common theme on this board not an attack on QD as a player

Ever time the play changed it was from the sideline, he may not like what he sees and steps out but Dormady isn't calling plays at the line of scrimmage! I didn't get that from Butch's remarks or from what I saw at the game on Saturday. Dormady looks to the sideline gets the play and calls it to the offensive line, receivers and Running back get the play from the sideline as well from Signals/Signs.

Guarantano did the same thing steped out and got a new play a few times. I think that they send them in to line up in a formation to see what the defense is doing and then make the play call from the box.

All plays are coming form the sideline not Dormady changing the play at the line like Peyton would!

 

[UTFootballFan]

The post wasn't flattering? All I said was Dormady scares me and he's gonna have to get better before SEC play, I think that is a common theme on this board not an attack on QD as a player

Ever time the play changed it was from the sideline, he may not like what he sees and steps out but Dormady isn't calling plays at the line of scrimmage! I didn't get that from Butch's remarks or from what I saw at the game on Saturday. Dormady looks to the sideline gets the play and calls it to the offensive line, receivers and Running back get the play from the sideline as well from Signals/Signs.

Guarantano did the same thing steped out and got a new play a few times. I think that they send them in to line up in a formation to see what the defense is doing and then make the play call from the box.

All plays are coming form the sideline not Dormady changing the play at the line like Peyton would!

That's a common theme with all qb's two games in and prior to conference play.

Plays were called much differently when Peyton played at UT.

 

[johnrlansford]

You know for a fact he hasn't audibled or checked off to another play? Do you know for a fact JG has done it?

Yes, If you watch the game everytime Dormady steps back to look to the sidelines, so do the wide receivers, and running backs. Dormady never signals a play to the receivers and running backs he only relays to the OL. He may signal a receiver, on an RPO to let him know he likes a matchup or coverage displayed pre-snap. But never changing an entire play without guidance from the sideline!

 

[whobethis16]

If he hangs that 9 inches higher, the defender 4-5 yards back has an easy interception.

QD had several better throws than that. The best one I saw was when he drilled one in to #5 on an RPO.

If he hangs it 20" higher, it's over everyone's head. Big deal on the hypotheticals. It was on the money for what needed to be done.

 

[UTFootballFan]

Yes, If you watch the game everytime Dormady steps back to look to the sidelines, so do the wide receivers, and running backs. Dormady never signals a play to the receivers and running backs he only relays to the OL. He may signal a receiver, on an RPO to let him know he likes a matchup or coverage displayed pre-snap. But never changing an entire play without guidance from the sideline!

You hold that against Dormady? Do you know if Jones has given him the green light to call audibles at the LOS?

 

[johnrlansford]

That's a common theme with all qb's two games in and prior to conference play.

Plays were called much differently when Peyton played at UT.

Really? Like who?
These issues are a major concern with the defenses we will see in the SEC.

He can improve but it shouldn't be this much of an unknown 2 games in!

 

[37620VOL]

To say that Dormady is making calls at the line is just false. That never happens in Butch Jones system, the play is always changed at the sideline.

It happened last week on the td pass to #7.

Go to 1:07:27 of the full game video here: https://youtu.be/lluYNfm4JwM?t=1h7m22s

He sees the coverage, motions the TE #82, communicates a hot route to #7, 19 yd TD pass with :53 left in the first half. No check with me to the sideline.

 

[sjt18]

The check on the TD pass did not come from the sideline.

Further, in Jones' system there are often sets of plays sent in from the sideline. On some but not all the QB chooses the correct play from that set. That's my understanding from hearing it described on multiple occasions

 

[UTFootballFan]

Really? Like who?
These issues are a major concern with the defenses we will see in the SEC.

He can improve but it shouldn't be this much of an unknown 2 games in!

Every team out there is saying they need improvement. Its the nature of the beast. It's funny how you tweak and try to requalify your statements after being challenged.

 

[johnrlansford]

You hold that against Dormady? Do you know if Jones has given him the green light to call audibles at the LOS?

What am I holding against Dormady?

No 1st year starter gets that responsibilty unless you are a big time QB, Peyton didn't get that til his 3-4 year. Dormady hasn't proven he can not stare down a receiver yet let alone call the plays at the line...Are you for Real?

No knock on Dormady, he is just young when it comes to starts, he may do that later in the year but he has to prove himself as the QB we need him to be first!

 

[johnrlansford]

It happened last week on the td pass to #7.

Go to 1:07:27 of the full game video here: https://youtu.be/lluYNfm4JwM?t=1h7m22s

He sees the coverage, motions the TE #82, communicates a hot route to #7, 19 yd TD pass with :53 left in the first half. No check with me to the sideline.

A hot route receiver isn't changing the play it is adjusting to the defense which I clearly said in my last post, The TE Motion is to see if they are in man or zone coverage.

 

[UTFootballFan]

What am I holding against Dormady?

No 1st year starter gets that responsibilty unless you are a big time QB, Peyton didn't get that til his 3-4 year. Dormady hasn't proven he can not stare down a receiver yet let alone call the plays at the line...Are you for Real?

No knock on Dormady, he is just young when it comes to starts, he may do that later in the year but he has to prove himself as the QB we need him to be first!

It sure seems like you are holding against him by bringing it up in the argument to beat him down and portray him as not being good enough. Both qb's are works in progress. Dormady is the better choice and some are having trouble accepting that.

 

[k-town_king]

May 23, 2016.....your exact quote....

"I agree. JG has the potential to be better than any qb we have had since Peyton. I doubt Dormady ever starts a game here unless it is an opponent on the opposing team."


Was looking back through my pics on my iPhone this morning looking for a specific one of my daughter, ran across this post from you that I'd "screen-shotted"....I'd insert the actual picture but can rarely get my iPhone to do it.

So, you're misremembering here, you wrote it.

Since when does doubt=certainty. I said I doubt. That was also 2016. If you pull up an post from this camp or spring I said I though QD would start the season. So . . .

It's most likely because QD is too white. k-town is a racist. Anyone that's paid attention to his posts in the politics forum knows this.

Yea because we all know the people who think everyone is equal and fights against racism are the real racists right? :crazy::shakehead:

 

[johnrlansford]

Every team out there is saying they need improvement. Its the nature of the beast. It's funny how you tweak and try to requalify your statements after being challenged.

Read all my post I am consistent in the fact that I believe that Dormady can improve, But he still scares me with his decision making especially going into SEC play! Very Consistent! And you sir aren't a challenge!

 

[volfan102455]

It happened last week on the td pass to #7.

Go to 1:07:27 of the full game video here: https://youtu.be/lluYNfm4JwM?t=1h7m22s

He sees the coverage, motions the TE #82, communicates a hot route to #7, 19 yd TD pass with :53 left in the first half. No check with me to the sideline.

Yes I remember this play. He obviously saw the match up that would occur if he moved #82 to the other side.

No check to the sidelines at all.

 

[k-town_king]

Read all my post I am consistent in the fact that I believe that Dormady can improve, But he still scares me with his decision making especially going into SEC play! Very Consistent! And you sir aren't a challenge!

Exactly.

Dobbs was bashed left and right and people think it was all valid.

Post facts about Dormady that don't make him look like the next Peyton and you hate the kid.

Yet if you accused anyone of hating Dobbs the same people would cry.

:jpshakehead:

 

[johnrlansford]

It sure seems like you are holding against him by bringing it up in the argument to beat him down and portray him as not being good enough. Both qb's are works in progress. Dormady is the better choice and some are having trouble accepting that.

I have agreed that Dormady is the better option numerous times. I am not holding anything against Dormady, but he isn't a very good QB right now. He will get better I think, but no one can say that he is a great QB right now!!!

He has done some good things and some bad things but consistancy is my major concern, He has to be better because we have played 2 worst defenses we will get to see, he won't get away with some of his previous decisions against FL, GA, AL, LSU.

That is all I am saying, I am not trying to beat him down but he does need to get better, I think most logical people can admit that!

 

[johnrlansford]

Exactly.

Dobbs was bashed left and right and people think it was all valid.

Post facts about Dormady that don't make him look like the next Peyton and you hate the kid.

Yet if you accused anyone of hating Dobbs the same people would cry.

:jpshakehead:

I supported Dobbs until the end and I will support Dormady until he isn't the starter, but he needs to be better if we want to win any amount of games in the SEC. It is a simple fact, we aren't a good Football tema right not and that includes Dormady! We will learn a lot about Dormady and the Vols this Saturday when we play Florida! Go Vols!!!

 

[k-town_king]

I supported Dobbs until the end and I will support Dormady until he isn't the starter, but he needs to be better if we want to win any amount of games in the SEC. It is a simple fact, we aren't a good Football tema right not and that includes Dormady! We will learn a lot about Dormady and the Vols this Saturday when we play Florida! Go Vols!!!

I support him also. He is the starter right now.

He needs to play way better to beat good teams. He has made bad decisions so far.

I hope he improves.

Some on here have problems with the truth. He needs to play way better.