Jarrett Guarantano

[whobethis16]

I'm referring to the GT game where he threw it deep in double coverage and Callaway bailed him out and caught it. The TD pass to Callaway against Indiana state was beautiful

This one, where the double in "double coverage" is a good 4-5 yards away from the receiver?

 

[k-town_king]

No one is "acting" like he played perfect. You don't know much about the game when you're saying "he hasn't played well". He has played pretty well. He directed a pressure packed, 93 yard drive against GT when it looked like we were done. He's forced a few passes. Not a bunch.

At least get the facts straight. QD is better than JG. It's obvious to anyone who knows just a little about the game

Pretty much everyone has said that QD is better at this point. He is. He has more command of the o.

He was on the field. Like Swain said people that don't know anything see he was the qb and act like he made was the catalyst for the win. He managed the game well enough to win. That is about it. And he forced a lot of passes. He could have two pick sixes already if not for drops by subpar dbs.

 

[BAJAvol]

This one, where the double in "double coverage" is a good 4-5 yards away from the receiver?

The guy on the right appeared to lose his damn mind right before the ball got there

 

[whobethis16]

The guy on the right appeared to lose his damn mind right before the ball got there

Because it was both a helluva throw and a helluva catch. Still, difficult to call it double coverage when he's 5 yards away from the receiver at time of the catch, as I just showed.

 

[whobethis16]

Pretty much everyone has said that QD is better at this point. He is. He has more command of the o.

He was on the field. Like Swain said people that don't know anything see he was the qb and act like he made was the catalyst for the win. He managed the game well enough to win. That is about it. And he forced a lot of passes. He could have two pick sixes already if not for drops by subpar dbs.

And Pat Ryan said he did even better than that. NFL guy who actually played the position, or slightly above average college receiver with a regional radio show?

 

[k-town_king]

And Pat Ryan said he did even better than that. NFL guy who actually played the position, or slightly above average college receiver with a regional radio show?

That is funny because on the Sunday Sports Forum they all said Dormady looked average and fans were giving him too much credit. He was a part of that discussion. They all said exactly what I have been saying and some even think JG should play some. That was Pat Ryan, Sterling Hinton, John Pennington, and Will Overstreet saying this. So . . . :ermm:

 

[Volosaurus rex]

I'm not comparing him to an NFL HOF QB. I'm comparing him to PM's stats at UT when he was a college QB and NOT an NFL HOF QB. I specifically stated look at PM's UT stats. He was worse as a junior than a sophomore with the same amount of attempts. Averaged a pick a game his two veteran collegiate seasons.

Yes, in 1995, Peyton threw only 4 interceptions out of 380 attempts. That requires sound decision-making skills and a lot of LUCK to have an interception percentage that barely eclipses 1%. In fact, I seem to recall, perhaps erroneously, that Peyton once held the NCAA record for that category, although it has since been broken.

I don't recall specifics relevant to his '96 totals, but I distinctly remember several of Peyton's interceptions in 1997 occurring as a result of deflections off of receiver's hands directly into those of defensive backs. And that includes the interception vs. Auburn in the SEC championship game that resulted in Peyton suffering a knee injury, one that hampered his mobility in the Orange Bowl vs. Nebraska.

 

[volfan102455]

That is funny because on the Sunday Sports Forum they all said Dormady looked average and fans were giving him too much credit. He was a part of that discussion. They all said exactly what I have been saying and some even think JG should play some. That was Pat Ryan, Sterling Hinton, John Pennington, and Will Overstreet saying this. So . . . :ermm:

Don't really care what they think to be honest.

 

[volfan102455]

Seriously I get it - some of you have hitched your wagon to JG and want QD to just fade away so you are nitpicking every thing in an attempt to make QD look bad.

One PLAYER is not BIGGER than the rest of the team.

 

[volfan102455]

And this is this same type of stuff that was here about the RB who quit.

 

[BAJAvol]

Because it was both a helluva throw and a helluva catch. Still, difficult to call it double coverage when he's 5 yards away from the receiver at time of the catch, as I just showed.

It was double coverage pre throw. But our play makers made a play.

 

[KBVol]

No one is saying JG should start right now. No one is saying QD is terrible or will never develop.

He hasn't played well and has forced a bunch of passes. Some are acting like he has played perfect or played great. He hasn't.

For a guy you once said would "never start a game here unless it's for an opposing team" (he'll make his 3rd start here on Saturday), I think he's doing just fine as he learns the position.

Also, I really hope the light turns on for JG and what we saw on Saturday was just first game jitters, cause he certainly didn't look like a kid who has the potential to be, as you also said, "the best quarterback here since Peyton". What he looked like to me on Saturday was a kid who has a big arm but really struggles to take it from the practice field to the game field.....but I'm certainly not gonna say he'll never play here because i hope and think he will one day, and well.....just not while QD is still here.

 

[johnrlansford]

Simple fact, Jones and company trust QD to check down and make audibles. No chance in Hell does JG get that trust.

QD doesn't check down or Audible, he llines up lets the coaches in the box check the defense and then backs out until they call in the new play.

This is ridiculous, QD doesn't have that kind of trust with the coaches by any means!!!!

 

[johnrlansford]

On tv, it appeared that he first looked at the tight end on a shorter out, then on to receiver coming across the back of the endzone.

Well everyone sitting around me in the back of the endzone would disagree, there was no one who didn't know where the ball was being thrown.

All QBs do it on occasion, but QD has shown a trend of doing it. I think he can improve on it, but he still scares me against SEC defenses. I hope he can break the habit and lead us to a great season!!!

 

[johnrlansford]

Well there you are then. The verdict is in. Two games and one interception is all the proof YOU need. He officially sucks. Doomed to stare down receivers forever with no chance, what so ever, to improve..



I don't suppose you realize how ridiculous you guys sound, do you?

No one ever said that, atleast I didn't!!!

I said that he scares me going into SEC play, he can improve and he doesn't suck. He hasn't played outstanding but he has played well enough to win.

I think he will improve and hope he doesn't stare down receivers against Florida because the fact is they will eat him alive if he does.

 

[BULLET VOL]

I did not get to watch any of the game this past Saturday. From what I have read and listened to this week from everyone is that there is no question who should be starting QB right now. I have not heard one comment that JG should be starting QB except on this board.

 

[sjt18]

I did not get to watch any of the game this past Saturday. From what I have read and listened to this week from everyone is that there is no question who should be starting QB right now. I have not heard one comment that JG should be starting QB except on this board.

No. Now the fall back position for those who attached their egos to the idea that JG would start is to trash Dormady. Anything that goes well... they give total credit to someone else. They can't really explain how someone who is that "horrible" has completed over 70% of his passes since his slow start vs GT... but they're sure he's just playing awful. Why? Well... because to admit otherwise would force them to finally admit they were wrong.

 

[volfan102455]

No. Now the fall back position for those who attached their egos to the idea that JG would start is to trash Dormady. Anything that goes well... they give total credit to someone else. They can't really explain how someone who is that "horrible" has completed over 70% of his passes since his slow start vs GT... but they're sure he's just playing awful. Why? Well... because to admit otherwise would force them to finally admit they were wrong.

The truth!

Before the season my wagon was not hitched behind either one - though from the spring and what I was hearing from fall camp, I fully expected it to be be Dormady.

Two games in, it should be obvious that the QD is and should be the starter. JG over the season needs reps where possible just in case he has to step into the fray in the middle of a big game.

Folks need to unhitch their wagon and get back to supporting ALL Tennessee players. Both were highly rated QB's coming out of high school.

 

[sjt18]

I'm referring to the GT game where he threw it deep in double coverage and Callaway bailed him out and caught it. The TD pass to Callaway against Indiana state was beautiful

I don't agree on that one either. The safety came over late on the GT throw and was trying to get depth. QD found MC in single coverage where MC had the physical advantage and had position. If you watch that play again, MC did have to jump but had the defender not reached up and tackled him by the face mask... he probably scores.

Also when you watch it again, watch where the ball would have gone had there been no defenders. The CB did a good job of cutting MC off which is why he had to slow and leap for the ball rather than running under it.

It wasn't a great throw. But it was a good throw and a good calculated decision to throw to MC against a defender that was 3 or 4 inches shorter weighing about 20 lbs less. MC made a super play on the ball... but again... QD knew who he was throwing to and what he was capable of as well as who he was throwing against.

 

[sjt18]

The truth!

Before the season my wagon was not hitched behind either one - though from the spring and what I was hearing from fall camp, I fully expected it to be be Dormady.

Two games in, it should be obvious that the QD is and should be the starter. JG over the season needs reps where possible just in case he has to step into the fray in the middle of a big game.

Folks need to unhitch their wagon and get back to supporting ALL Tennessee players. Both were highly rated QB's coming out of high school.

Pretty much the same. My reaction isn't really in support of QD as much as in opposition to the biased trashing.

Honestly, I'm kind of stoked about JG too. I think it is a pity that there isn't one more year of separation between the two. If they do a good job of building a team around him, he could potentially start one year and go pro. I think he's that talented. But he needs the seasoning. He needs to work as QD's understudy and learn from someone else's mistakes. If he handles it well, he has a GREAT future and will go into the draft with a less abused body than many guys do.

I've made a few responses to those now starting to trash JG a little. Neither of these QB's can run downfield and hand the ball off to receivers instead of passing it. George can't drop balls thrown as well as the one JG threw. I think JG may have missed his line call on the play where he got clocked. Probably good medicine to help him remember.

 

[k-town_king]

For a guy you once said would "never start a game here unless it's for an opposing team" (he'll make his 3rd start here on Saturday), I think he's doing just fine as he learns the position.

Also, I really hope the light turns on for JG and what we saw on Saturday was just first game jitters, cause he certainly didn't look like a kid who has the potential to be, as you also said, "the best quarterback here since Peyton". What he looked like to me on Saturday was a kid who has a big arm but really struggles to take it from the practice field to the game field.....but I'm certainly not gonna say he'll never play here because i hope and think he will one day, and well.....just not while QD is still here.

I have never said Dormady would never make a start. Maybe you are confused. I said in the spring he MAY never start a game here because he was in a competition with a younger, more talented qb.

 

[KBVol]

QD doesn't check down or Audible, he llines up lets the coaches in the box check the defense and then backs out until they call in the new play.

This is ridiculous, QD doesn't have that kind of trust with the coaches by any means!!!!

Dude, what is the source of your utter contempt for Quentin Dormady? It began within about a week of the first time the kid stepped on campus in January of 2015, when you predicted he'd transfer and never play here....and you've been beating the "Dormady sucks" drum ever since. I don't get it.

 

[johnrlansford]

Dude, what is the source of your utter contempt for Quentin Dormady? It began within about a week of the first time the kid stepped on campus in January of 2015, when you predicted he'd transfer and never play here....and you've been beating the "Dormady sucks" drum ever since. I don't get it.

To say that Dormady is making calls at the line is just false. That never happens in Butch Jones system, the play is always changed at the sideline.

I am well past the Dormady transferring conversation, but obviously you aren't. I have been consistent that i believe he would get beat out not that he was a horrible QB, He just hasn't impressed IMHO. He found a way to win and looked pretty good in the second half against GT, but he had way to many mistakes to believe that he is ready for SEC play yet. You can say what you want but he has to improve before we get deep in SEC play or we are in trouble.

I believe that he can improve, but he is far from perfect. He just needs to feel more comfortable and changing QBs in and out of the game saturday did neither QB justice for their confidence or their rythmn in the game.

I hope Dormady succeeds, because if he does the Vols Succeed and that is all that matters! Go Vols!!!

 

[KBVol]

I have never said Dormady would never make a start. Maybe you are confused. I said in the spring he MAY never start a game here because he was in a competition with a younger, more talented qb.

May 23, 2016.....your exact quote....

"I agree. JG has the potential to be better than any qb we have had since Peyton. I doubt Dormady ever starts a game here unless it is an opponent on the opposing team."


Was looking back through my pics on my iPhone this morning looking for a specific one of my daughter, ran across this post from you that I'd "screen-shotted"....I'd insert the actual picture but can rarely get my iPhone to do it.

So, you're misremembering here, you wrote it.

 

[UTFootballFan]

To say that Dormady is making calls at the line is just false. That never happens in Butch Jones system, the play is always changed at the sideline.

I am well past the Dormady transferring conversation, but obviously you aren't. I have been consistent that i believe he would get beat out not that he was a horrible QB, He just hasn't impressed IMHO. He found a way to win and looked pretty good in the second half against GT, but he had way to many mistakes to believe that he is ready for SEC play yet. You can say what you want but he has to improve before we get deep in SEC play or we are in trouble.

I believe that he can improve, but he is far from perfect. He just needs to feel more comfortable and changing QBs in and out of the game saturday did neither QB justice for their confidence or their rythmn in the game.

I hope Dormady succeeds, because if he does the Vols Succeed and that is all that matters! Go Vols!!!

Jones disputes your contention Dormady doesn't manage the offense.