Janzen Jackson wearing a cast.

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I still can't help but think that weekly meetings with the coaches might mean weekly drug tests. Was Janzen anywhere near his strike limit on drug tests? Any failed tests?
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TennTradition said:
I still can't help but think that weekly meetings with the coaches might mean weekly drug tests. Was Janzen anywhere near his strike limit on drug tests? Any failed tests?
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The idea, of course, is that if he isn't on the team mow, a failed test isn't a strike...but the coaches want to hold him to the fire on staying clean.

I hope that is absolute crap and this isn't a drug issue at all....
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#34
The more I think about this "issue" he has, the less it makes any sense whatsoever. If it was family, wouldn't he be spending time in Louisiana, Ohio, or wherever the family problems are(unless, of course, it is an issue somewhat like a former unnamed rb had with creating way too much family). This would make "weekly" meetings with the coach(es) virtually impossible. The only other issues that I can think of are either not wanting to go to class and make his grades, the puff issue, or a mixture of the two.
 
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Zeppelin18241 said:
If we stay healthy, we can play with anyone in the nation. Its as simple as that. We desperately need Janzen, Greg, and Austin though.
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with potential but he has not proved himself against good competition at all, young receivers (with definite potential), and a defense that is thin at DT and not very good at Linebacker. People talk about Johnson as if he's good and he's really done very little--best known for missing a tackle in florida game that proved the turning point in the game. I like where Dooley has got us headed, but not sure we can play with anyone yet.
 
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#39
If it's a valid reason I'm glad Dooley supports him. If not, I'm surprised at Dooley's attitude.
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TennTradition said:
The idea, of course, is that if he isn't on the team mow, a failed test isn't a strike...but the coaches want to hold him to the fire on staying clean.

I hope that is absolute crap and this isn't a drug issue at all....
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I actually think you might be on to something... I posted awhile back that there is something very fishy with this whole thing, and I hope Dooley's doesn't set a bad precedent here... But it seems if he were having family or personal problems, that being on a football team would be better than not - making your prediction even more credible in my mind.
 
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VolsDeep said:
I actually think you might be on to something... I posted awhile back that there is something very fishy with this whole thing, and I hope Dooley's doesn't set a bad precedent here... But it seems if he were having family or personal problems, that being on a football team would be better than not - making your prediction even more credible in my mind.
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Why do we all have to think the worst? What if he was working fulltime to pay a family member's debt or legal bills? Being a student and on the team might make working fulltime difficult. Dooley doesn't seem to be the kind that would tolerate drug use and it would be difficult for him to justify reenrollment without a good reason. Would be a hard sell to the NCAA.
 
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manfromtn said:
The more I think about this "issue" he has, the less it makes any sense whatsoever. If it was family, wouldn't he be spending time in Louisiana, Ohio, or wherever the family problems are(unless, of course, it is an issue somewhat like a former unnamed rb had with creating way too much family). This would make "weekly" meetings with the coach(es) virtually impossible. The only other issues that I can think of are either not wanting to go to class and make his grades, the puff issue, or a mixture of the two.
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I think they were labeled as Personal Issues and not family problems.

There are a variety of personal issues that would make going to school difficult for someone who has had problems keeping his personal life stable and trouble free in the past.

I think its concerning that he's having to do this, but not suspicious. It's been clear from the Pilot incident he's a young man with problems with his personal life. It's a positive that he's out of school addressing them instead of riding them out without getting help.
 
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YorkVol said:
Why do we all have to think the worst? What if he was working fulltime to pay a family member's debt or legal bills? Being a student and on the team might make working fulltime difficult. Dooley doesn't seem to be the kind that would tolerate drug use and it would be difficult for him to justify reenrollment without a good reason. Would be a hard sell to the NCAA.
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how would that be a hard sell to the ncaa? "Janzen needed to take a semester off to give him space from bad influences and get back on the straight and narrow. As he makes the necessary steps to remedy these problems, he will be closely monitored by our staff but will not be part of our football team. If he demonstrates a willingness to change and shows improvement in his overall character, then he may be able to join the team assuming he is re-instated as a student."

And sure, it makes more sense that Janzen Jackson willingly dropped out of school so that he could work full time even though his father is a college football coach and run the risk of not being re-instated into school and consequently forfeiting a year of eligibility and possibly his draft status. A lot of players come from troubled homes with low income, is Dooley going to allow every player to skip practices to go "work" and yet still allow them to play in games (remember, this started back during bowl practice).... Dooley also doesn't seem like the type of guy to tolerate excuses/laziness..

I'm not saying that this is the reason why Janzen is out, but I can assure you that it isn't some cookie cutter BS like you are suggesting. I can't think of ONE personal issue that is better handled away from a football team (who many regard as family, etc) than with one....just as I'm sure there is more behind Art Evans' suspension than simply his failure to pay his car loan.
 
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VolsDeep said:
how would that be a hard sell to the ncaa? "Janzen needed to take a semester off to give him space from bad influences and get back on the straight and narrow. As he makes the necessary steps to remedy these problems, he will be closely monitored by our staff but will not be part of our football team. If he demonstrates a willingness to change and shows improvement in his overall character, then he may be able to join the team assuming he is re-instated as a student."

And sure, it makes more sense that Janzen Jackson willingly dropped out of school so that he could work full time even though his father is a college football coach and run the risk of not being re-instated into school and consequently forfeiting a year of eligibility and possibly his draft status. A lot of players come from troubled homes with low income, is Dooley going to allow every player to skip practices to go "work" and yet still allow them to play in games (remember, this started back during bowl practice).... Dooley also doesn't seem like the type of guy to tolerate excuses/laziness..

I'm not saying that this is the reason why Janzen is out, but I can assure you that it isn't some cookie cutter BS like you are suggesting. I can't think of ONE personal issue that is better handled away from a football team (who many regard as family, etc) than with one....just as I'm sure there is more behind Art Evans' suspension than simply his failure to pay his car loan.
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Hey, thanks for being obtuse!
 
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YorkVol said:
Why do we all have to think the worst?


Because unfortunately, that's the tendency of too many fans here. If there's no issue they have to invent one.


What if he was working fulltime to pay a family member's debt or legal bills? Being a student and on the team might make working fulltime difficult.

At the risk of a tongue in the cheek response, this is what I semi-thought to begin with. That his family was in a monetary situation where every dime made the difference between having rain or a roof overhead.


Dooley doesn't seem to be the kind that would tolerate drug use and it would be difficult for him to justify reenrollment without a good reason. Would be a hard sell to the NCAA.
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This is something I felt all along. If CDD is standing by him, the reason JJ gave for his absence is valid and worthy of the coach's support. The negative thought I had was the hope JJ isn't lying to CDD cause he has a heck of a guy in his corner. betraying that trust would be the end for JJ. Until then, smart thing is for all us fans to shut up and let the coach be the coach.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
This is something I felt all along. If CDD is standing by him, the reason JJ gave for his absence is valid and worthy of the coach's support. The negative thought I had was the hope JJ isn't lying to CDD cause he has a heck of a guy in his corner. betraying that trust would be the end for JJ. Until then, smart thing is for all us fans to shut up and let the coach be the coach.
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Why is that the smart thing? Does Dooley run the risk of not being the coach if us fans don't shut up?
 
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VolsDeep said:
Why is that the smart thing? Does Dooley run the risk of not being the coach if us fans don't shut up?
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Probably not since some folks don't know how to shut up. Or realize that speculation on something they don't really know about works no good for anybody. Conclusion based on your response: It's smarter to run one's mouth on something that doesn't concern them and what they don't really know anything about. OK, got it.

Will now leave this thread to wise heads like you. That might be the smart thing to do.
 
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