And the thing that gets me the most are all the guys who haven't taken the time to look at his time,results and the circumstances at Vandie, who talk about him as one of the great coaches in the country. He's just not. If you look at what he did at Vandie, it's ONLY impressive relative to what Vandie has done for decades. Truth is, the stars aligned perfectly for him there with regards to a historically bad Tennessee team and an awful SEC East. He never finished higher than 4th in the SEC East, was 11-13 in the SEC in 3 years, lost to all the good teams and only beat the bad teams, while not playing Alabama in either of his 9 win seasons. It was all stars aligning type stuff and smoke and mirrors and now we're seeing that at PennState. He's a fraud who can't do as well 4 years after the whole Paterno mess as OBrien did the 2 immediate years following it. And, oh yeah, he's s dick. An arrogant, condescending, narcissistic, thin-skinned ass who is now being exposed as not a very good head football coach to boot.