J Jackson's response to the penalty...

#26
#26
This just in We lost because we were playing football, but the refs were there for fruitball.
 
#27
#27
So JJ can't leap to contact a receiver that's just leaped as high as he can into the air? Seems logical.
 
#28
#28
OrangeUTopia said:
Maybe. But it's a rule. If we want to violate it because we don't like it then we'll keep getting 15 yard penalties and keep giving away games like this.
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You are asking Janzen to unlearn what every coach has taught him since he started playing until this year. You need to lighten up on him.
 
#29
#29
I thought the rule was leading with your head. If true, then it was a bogus call. He definitely twisted his torso and led with his shoulder. The NCAA uses stupid language like "launching" because they're professor types who must have conferred with NASA before writing the rule.

They should review those calls also. The reason they don't is because of the monopoly called the NFL. They can fine Harrison of Pittsburgh for a hit even when evidence shows it was the wrong call. I can understand the rule. It's a good rule in theory. But the NFL and NCAA have royally screwed it up. And the NCAA has made the celebration rule a joke. They aren't consistent at all. Funny thing is the Big 10 officials (same as UT-UNC game) did the same thing to Kansas State yesterday with the celebration rule. Just before the questionable call in that game, a Syracuse DL sacked the QB, stood up and celebrated with his little dance. In that series, Kansas State scores and salutes to get flag. Okay to do if you're a DL but not WR?

I would get rid of the celebration rule except when taunting. And review all questionable calls as with JJ.
If they want "no launching", then wear f*&%$ng roller skates. The Big 10 owes UT and K-State apologies for their awful calls yesterday.

The last drive last night was the best example I have seen yet of the refs taking the game out of the players' hands and deciding who won for themselves. There were multiple, and I mean multiple, holding calls missed on the UNC OL....Pathetic.
 
#30
#30
I do not remeber the ref saying that JJ launched himself on that hit, he said it was a hit above the shoulders, which it was not. Awful call.
 
#31
#31
Anything the NFL does College will follow. I guess we should look forward to games without defense. They should just let the offense go out there by themselves and run practice drills. Games in the 40 and 50's will soon be the norm. Arena league football on steroids.
 
#32
#32
He did launch himself on the replay but he was in a hurry to get to the player, to accomplish this he had to get airborne b/c the player was airborne.
 
#35
#35
We're talking about leading with certain body parts, leaving your feet at certain angles, at certain speeds, hitting them at certain parts of their bodies... It sounds more like math and science class.

You shouldn't need to be a physicist to play defense.
 
#37
#37
Cartervol said:
Anything the NFL does College will follow. I guess we should look forward to games without defense. They should just let the offense go out there by themselves and run practice drills. Games in the 40 and 50's will soon be the norm. Arena league football on steroids.
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Then ncaa should follow the time runoff rule on an offensive penalty.
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#39
#39
Bukstar said:
I do not remeber the ref saying that JJ launched himself on that hit, he said it was a hit above the shoulders, which it was not. Awful call.
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The actual term used by the referee in the announcement of the penalty was unnecessary roughness. He never used the term "launching."

Regardless of what actually prompted the penalty...launching, hitting with the helmet (which he didn't do anyway), hitting a defenseless receiver...it was a TERRIBLE call.
 
#40
#40
OrangeUTopia said:
He launched himself. It's the rule. Rules change and if you don't adapt then you'll keep losing games like this.

It's one thing to be aggressive, but he launched himself and led with his helmet. They've been harping on this in the NFL and NCAA all season. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know you can't do that.
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Actually, i would think being a Rocket Scientist would help one better understand the Properties & the Physics associated with Launching and propulsion an object.
 
#41
#41
UTvol2011 said:
Then ncaa should follow the time runoff rule on an offensive penalty.
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At least stand over the ball until Carolina got their whole team off the field. Time should have expired, they should have never got that last play.
 
#42
#42
If we could wrap up and tackle instead of trying to bump defenders and knock them down the game and other games wouldn't have been close enough to lose in the final chaos of what we saw last night. I hate seeing our guys throw a shoulder thinking they are knocking guys on their butts only to see them pick up 10 or more additional yards. In the modern game and with head and neck injuries you are just not going to be able to crack guys by diving at them when they are unprotected...period! Also look for crack blocks to be illegal at any position. It sucks, but it will be the rules we have to play by!
 
#44
#44
deaconkane said:
Lauching and leading with the helmet are two different things. He launched....
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If you go to the NCAA Rule book and do a search for the word "launching" you get 0 returns for the search. I agree that launching and leading with the helmet are totally different. My question is "How can you make a tackle without launching?" It's not very smart for a defensive guy to stand flat footed and let someone run over him. On goal line stands the back leaps over the linemen. If you don't "launch" it's an easy 6 points for the offense.
 
#45
#45
OrangeUTopia said:
He launched himself. It's the rule. Rules change and if you don't adapt then you'll keep losing games like this.

It's one thing to be aggressive, but he launched himself and led with his helmet. They've been harping on this in the NFL and NCAA all season. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know you can't do that.
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1. There is no "launching rule"
2. He hit the guy with his shoulder pad
3. He hit the guy in the back
 
#46
#46
the launching rule is or is not a good rule is moot. Jackson is no Troy Palumalu.. he is no Bob Sanders... and he is no Eric Berry. He needs to learn how to tackle, and quit trying to make the highlight reels. He is every bit as responsible for this loss as was Lincoln. Maybe even more so. JMHO.
 
#47
#47
OrangeUTopia said:
He launched himself. It's the rule. Rules change and if you don't adapt then you'll keep losing games like this.

It's one thing to be aggressive, but he launched himself and led with his helmet. They've been harping on this in the NFL and NCAA all season. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know you can't do that.
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wrong, if you watched the replay he led with his shoulder
 
#48
#48
ERICtheBERRY said:
1. There is no "launching rule"
2. He hit the guy with his shoulder pad
3. He hit the guy in the back
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This.
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#49
#49
i think the whole led with his helmet is stupid due to the fact that you could call that on any hit that is led with the shoulder. why? because your head sits on top of your shoulders. football is being ruined by these ridiculous rules
 
#50
#50
Vol Mania 21 said:
i think the whole led with his helmet is stupid due to the fact that you could call that on any hit that is led with the shoulder. why? because your head sits on top of your shoulders. football is being ruined by these ridiculous rules
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Stupid players that insist on headhunting don't help our team either.
 
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