IU VS BAMA

#301
#301
TrueOrange said:
It’s the right move. You needed 4 scores at that point either way.

FG takes you down to only needing 3 scores in the final quarter…which can actually be doable (even if it feels unlikely at this point).

You get nothing here and instead go into the fourth quarter needing 3 drives for TDs plus another drive for a FG or TD, that’s a hard uphill battle for a single quarter without also getting help from turnovers from the other team.
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Need to work on math skills. 3 TDs and 3 2 point conversions total 24. Highly unlikely but 24 points is a 3 score game.
 
#305
#305
Volswin98 said:
While I am enjoying Bama getting their a.. handed to them I can’t help but be thinking Cignetti is doing this with one of the worst football programs in D1 in years 2 and we are told to be patient in year 5.
They might as well put Learing Center on Neyland because that’s how much he are being BS’d.
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I got everyone in this thread riled up for saying something similar.
 
#308
#308
volfan102455 said:
I don't know why folks keep harping on this - with a portal player, for the most part it is some other coach that has coached up the player, not the coaches with the teams they are playing for.
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The difference is those 50plus guys Indy paid to come play for them already had college production on tape. They were known quantities. Players who had performed in college and could be studied on tape vs college offenses and defenses. They still did a GREAT job spotting and evaluating talent...and are clearly good coaches.

What they did NOT do...because it's completely impossible and literally nobody has ever done it in the history of college football... is spot 50 plus different players from HS that EVERY other college coach missed on...AND every recruiting service was dead wrong about giving them either a 3* or zero star rating. They aren't wizards. They don't have 100 guys to go out and scour every raggedy HS football game in America and spot talent that literally nobody else on Earth can see.

Those 2 things above are VERY different scenarios. That's why people point it out. Because it's completely misleading to act like Indy coaches took 50plus zero star kids and 25 three star kids and just coached them up to beat the wheels off Bamas 5* kids. That didn't happen. It never will. The majority of those players are juniors and seniors that played a couple years elsewhere before coming to IND.
 
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#321
#321
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If lots of coaches were winning big with no name guys you might have an argument. Cignetti is the only guy winning at a high level with low level talent.

Most guys, including Alabama, are losing to him with much better talent.

I find it hard to see how that reflects on us. He's beating very, very good programs but he's the only guy in D1 doing this.
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Are you saying Cignetti is the only coach capable of doing it? Because I bet there are more like him. Just got to find him.
 
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#322
Volswin98 said:
It’s not directly related to us. We are told to be happy with mediocre results because we haven’t given it enough time, but many coaches win a lot more than we have in that time. While Cignetti is extreme, he is the one on tv that I’m watching after what I watched our team do in year 5. I hope that makes sense.
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Cignetti is an odd case. He's beaten teams like tOSU and Oregon with year after year great classes and good portal work. He's not normal.

If you look at someone like Venables, who arguably walked into a better situation than Heupel, has he done remarkably better? Josh would've made a 12 team playoff in year 2 also.

Or Sarkasian at TX. The CFP in year 4.

I'm just not sure what you want from Heupel that's reasonable.
 
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