Its more that just Crompton...

[T_man_J]

It is easy to place the blame on Crompton, but there are other issues. Last week, Jones was unhappy after the Ohio game. This past week, there were issues in practice that required addressing by CLK in a post-practice talk. Like it or not, Jones seems to have a great amount of influence over this receiver corps; this influence showed in last night’s game.

Crompton was inaccurate during the first part of the game, and he struggled, but no receiver helped him. On many plays, when Crompton moved in the pocket to gain time for the recivers to work, no receiver broke off the route to come back to help. I saw many catchable passes get deflected into the ground by the receiver’s hands. It was obvious to the most casual observer that Hancock and Moore did not make an effort to catch a pass until Jones started playing in the fourth quarter.

CLK is at a cross road with the team. Will the informal field leader win, or will CLK take control of this team, play the young receivers, and starting building a talented passing corps for the future? The practice decisions made this week (which receivers get the reps) will provide insight into what type of coach we really have with Kiffin.

 

[Dudleys87]

When Crompton threw the ball it was behind the intended receiver for most of the night. From my view they made every effort to stop turn and catch the ball.

 

[Pooods]

I don't think many people on here really think it's all JC's fault. Rather, most of us think he is the biggest problem with this team. One player can almost never be the whole reason.

 

[VolGrad 04']

Of course it is more than just crompton. But if you don't think he is the biggest reason you don't know football.

 

[sjt18]

There may be a battle of wills going on... Hard to say.

What isn't hard to say is that there's plenty of blame to go around for the first 3 periods. It seems that it has something to do with the kind of pressure they're under. When they get desperate enough to stop worrying about making mistakes, they play better... all of them. When they seemed to sense that the game had probably already slipped away last night, JC actually started throwing the ball decently well and the receivers picked it up... or maybe they just knew they had to get going or get embarrassed. Whatever it is... they finally looked like a credible passing O in the 4th qtr.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

I have bashed JC most of this year and last and i would like to offer up an apology to him after last night. He has 0 SEC WR's to throw the ball to. G. Jones is very, very overrated, if he played like he smack talked he may be all SEC.
D. Moore is a great talent but can't seem to put it all together.
Brandon Warren, what can be said that the coaching staff has not already said.
Q. Hancock, tried hard but i would imagine its hard to play with a broken jaw.
Our WR's are just plain bad and there is no fear factor there for the other team.
Until we get some really good game changing WR's on this team and a QB we will struggle in the passing game. I believe that Kiffin will get us the players we need as he has already shown.
Kiffin has to play the hand Ole Phil dealt him this year but its gonna come together soon enough.
Go Vols!!

 

[TrickyJim]

Everyone is blaiming Fulmer. Well if it really is Fulmer and it really is the team Kiffin inherited, well then, why were we favorites over UCLA and Auburn, and got beat? The oddsmakers thought enough of the team to make them favorites. What star rating was Warren, what was Jones, what was Crompton, what was Vincent, etc. etc. I believe if you look back you will see that Kiffin is playing with 4 and 5 star players for the most part and favored. Now what is wrong? It is not the players. The cubbard is not bare. We have really good players, alot better than UCLA or Auburn. We should have won both games. What happened? I believe fans are really worried that Hamilton made a big mistake, and just don't want to admit it so they blame it on Fulmer and the players he left behind. Not fair at all.

 

[Cartervol]

As far as the passing game goes, if there is a plan B now is about as good a time as any to see it. Sadly i don't think there is a plan B, it is what it is. Stock up on alcohol, if it will help ease the pain.

 

[VolinDawgland]

I was at the game and the two legends of the game were Carl Pickens and Andy Kelly (or was it Jeff Francis, I get the two confused) and they showed their highlights. It must have been a bit embarrassing and intimidating for our WRs and QB watching those great passes and catches. I forgot how good we used to be and hopefully will be again.

 

[VolsByNature]

I don't think many people on here really think it's all JC's fault. Rather, most of us think he is the biggest problem with this team. One player can almost never be the whole reason.

I would say about 85% of the fan base would blame a lot of our record on Crompton

 

[VolinDawgland]

Everyone is blaiming Fulmer. Well if it really is Fulmer and it really is the team Kiffin inherited, well then, why were we favorites over UCLA and Auburn, and got beat? The oddsmakers thought enough of the team to make them favorites. What star rating was Warren, what was Jones, what was Crompton, what was Vincent, etc. etc. I believe if you look back you will see that Kiffin is playing with 4 and 5 star players for the most part and favored. Now what is wrong? It is not the players. The cubbard is not bare. We have really good players, alot better than UCLA or Auburn. We should have won both games. What happened? I believe fans are really worried that Hamilton made a big mistake, and just don't want to admit it so they blame it on Fulmer and the players he left behind. Not fair at all.

When you have two walk ons on the interior line who are clearly not SEC size or talent and you have absolutely no playmakers at WR and your QB and back-up QB are not SEC caliber then I'm not sure how you can say we have great talent. And yes this lack of talent and depth is absolutely on Fulmer at least this year and partially next.

 

[lylsmorr]

Here is what this reminds me of when Kiffin refuses to pull JC. Have you ever watched the Lakers play and they have a few 2nd teamers on the court? When things are going back Phil Jackson refuses to call a timeout, FORCING them to fix their mistakes. Likewise, Pulling Crompton would be the easy thing to do, to please the fan base. But somehow, someway, Lane Kiffin sees this team practice everyday(and see NS throw INT's in practice all the time apparently) and knows what is better for this team than any of us armchair coaches do. Give him credit, and hope this strategy works.

 

[R481967]

I have bashed JC most of this year and last and i would like to offer up an apology to him after last night. He has 0 SEC WR's to throw the ball to. G. Jones is very, very overrated, if he played like he smack talked he may be all SEC.
D. Moore is a great talent but can't seem to put it all together.
Brandon Warren, what can be said that the coaching staff has not already said.
Q. Hancock, tried hard but i would imagine its hard to play with a broken jaw.
Our WR's are just plain bad and there is no fear factor there for the other team.
Until we get some really good game changing WR's on this team and a QB we will struggle in the passing game. I believe that Kiffin will get us the players we need as he has already shown.
Kiffin has to play the hand Ole Phil dealt him this year but its gonna come together soon enough.
Go Vols!!

Pretty much the way I see it too. Shameful the way this young guy is getting booed by his own fans. He's not a (fill in a great name here) but he's doing his best. Far more than I can say for a sorry bunch of veteran receivers; bench them all til they can run routes right and load up the freshman. I'd like to see Berry snag a few also

 

[perico]

Everyone is blaiming Fulmer. Well if it really is Fulmer and it really is the team Kiffin inherited, well then, why were we favorites over UCLA and Auburn, and got beat? The oddsmakers thought enough of the team to make them favorites. What star rating was Warren, what was Jones, what was Crompton, what was Vincent, etc. etc. I believe if you look back you will see that Kiffin is playing with 4 and 5 star players for the most part and favored. Now what is wrong? It is not the players. The cubbard is not bare. We have really good players, alot better than UCLA or Auburn. We should have won both games. What happened? I believe fans are really worried that Hamilton made a big mistake, and just don't want to admit it so they blame it on Fulmer and the players he left behind. Not fair at all.

:banghead2:

Exhibit A: We are starting two walkons and a Freshman who just switched from playing TE on our OL

Exhibit B: We haven't had a wide reciever drafted in the first two rounds since 2006, and this crop is the worst yet.

Exhibit C: Our walk on MLB was the MVP of our defense besides Berry (granted, Reveiz could probably start anywhere)

Exhibit D: Our QB was a 5 star recruit, but I am beginning to think he played HS ball in the special ed- league.

Exhibit E: Look at the number of true freshmen we are having to start this year

Exhibit F: Look at how many of those 5* recruits that Fulmer brought in have turned out to be total busts (under Phil's watch too)

Exhibit G: The ones that are talented are usually so undercoached that it is taking all year to fix their bad habits

Exhibit H: Our recievers are so bad that it makes me wish for Austin Rogers :fool:

Exhibit I: We have two scholarship quarterbacks, one is the enigma known as Crompton, and the other is known as Pick 6 Nick

Exhibit J: Our leading reciever had ZERO receptions last year under Fulmer

Exhibit K: Our 2nd most reliable reciever was a midget TE last year

Exhibit L: Our new starting MLB hasn't played that position since 8th grade

Exhibit M: We love Cody Sullins so much that we have to start his twin brother too over much more talented players???

Exhibit N: Chad Cunningham is not only our starting punter, but our Kick off guy as well, and he sucks!

Exhibit O: I'm getting sick of this... Yaw Yaw footbawl

 

[Pooods]

I would say about 85% of the fan base would blame a lot of our record on Crompton

Yeah, he is a lot of the problem and most fans know it. But, if we had Manning right now he can't throw And catch. But, with a good QB there would be many more opportunities for the receivers to catch the ball. It would make the opposing D's play honest. You gotta start with the first person the center snaps the ball to. He is the leader.

 

[volbreaker]

When Crompton threw the ball it was behind the intended receiver for most of the night. From my view they made every effort to stop turn and catch the ball.

.... behind and 115 mph. I hate it for JC, but his performance has tentacles that reach to every facet of this teams being. Heck, all the way to the fans and band. Auburn OWNED the stadium Saturday night. I, frankly, am sick of being everyones panacea. Carrying my butt 250 mile round trips to get home at 3 a.m. feeling like this and watching THAT is over. You guys crawl on me and tell me "good, stay away". I don't freaking care. If they want to line up with a Richardson, Jones or whatever and tell people they are going to run it up their throat, then I'll be there. This coddling of a kid that IS NOT going to get better is insanity that I will not watch....CAN NOT watch.

 

[#10_Ainge_#10]

IMO, the sooner we get rid of Fulmer's kids and get rid of that "we don't give a crap if we win or lose" attitude(not all of them carry it but most do), the sooner we will start seeing the results we all want to see

 

[Greg C]

Crompton is still the major problem , he did have a few nice passes last night . Special teams were horrible ,Auburn had outstanding field position after each kickoff . Monte got caught sending the house on third down almost all night , Auburns qb just flipped it over in flat to running backs for 1st down yardage several times .

 

[golf437]

Everyone is blaiming Fulmer. Well if it really is Fulmer and it really is the team Kiffin inherited, well then, why were we favorites over UCLA and Auburn, and got beat? The oddsmakers thought enough of the team to make them favorites. What star rating was Warren, what was Jones, what was Crompton, what was Vincent, etc. etc. I believe if you look back you will see that Kiffin is playing with 4 and 5 star players for the most part and favored. Now what is wrong? It is not the players. The cubbard is not bare. We have really good players, alot better than UCLA or Auburn. We should have won both games. What happened? I believe fans are really worried that Hamilton made a big mistake, and just don't want to admit it so they blame it on Fulmer and the players he left behind. Not fair at all.

i see you lack knowledge about football. Our players except for a few are not SEC capeble. If you wathc most of our players are a step slower than others.

Will you be on the band wagon when things get better in a couple of years.

 

[#10_Ainge_#10]

Everyone is blaiming Fulmer. Well if it really is Fulmer and it really is the team Kiffin inherited, well then, why were we favorites over UCLA and Auburn, and got beat? The oddsmakers thought enough of the team to make them favorites. What star rating was Warren, what was Jones, what was Crompton, what was Vincent, etc. etc. I believe if you look back you will see that Kiffin is playing with 4 and 5 star players for the most part and favored. Now what is wrong? It is not the players. The cubbard is not bare. We have really good players, alot better than UCLA or Auburn. We should have won both games. What happened? I believe fans are really worried that Hamilton made a big mistake, and just don't want to admit it so they blame it on Fulmer and the players he left behind. Not fair at all.

Recruiting rankings don't mean a thing.....Fact is most of the highly recruited guys out of high school that are 4 and 5* athletes are busts....Bad argument there

FAIL

 

[tennvols1965]

Pretty much the way I see it too. Shameful the way this young guy is getting booed by his own fans. He's not a (fill in a great name here) but he's doing his best. Far more than I can say for a sorry bunch of veteran receivers; bench them all til they can run routes right and load up the freshman. I'd like to see Berry snag a few also

I agree, yea crompton made a lot of bad throws last night, but he also made some good throws that the receivers just dropped. I was always coached and I coach my son that if the ball hits your hands, then there is no reason you shouldn't catch it. No matter if its behind you at your feet or where ever. And if an 11 year old can do it, then the receivers at Tennessee should be able to do it. After all, they have been doing it a lot longer than my son.
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