It's like we are listening to the same crappy song on repeat

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Thorp32 said:
What resume????? Winning with Saban? Winning one year with Jimbo. You could put the DC for the Little Sisters of the Poor in with Saban and "he or she" would look great. What did Pruitt do at GA without Daddy Saban oh yeah Butch Jones beat him 2 years straight. What has Fulmer ever done as an AD other than give Barnes what he rightfully deserved? Nothing. What did Fulmer do as a " consultant at ETSU? Nothing. He hired Carl Torbush as the coach? Really. So Fulmers most recent hires including Clawson have all been busts. Its time to take off the orange colored glasses and get real.
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A resume is exactly that...an embodiment of your work, experience, success, etc. You don't get penalized on a resume because you have worked for very successful people. The little sisters thing maybe has some merit to it...but probably not....we didn't hire "he or she"... we hired a football coach with a great resume....but only time will tell.

Pruitt was at Georgia for 2 years... They went 10 and 3 both years and sure they lost to the band guy twice but that's why you play the game because just about any team out there can be beat on any given day.

I would also say that with Fulmers EXTREMELY SHORT TIME ON THE JOB... he hasn't had to make hires and that says a lot about the coaches we already have... Obviously meaning every other Sport at UT and not considering him and the Pruitt higher.
 
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CA_Vol said:
You left out the part where reasonable criticisms of the staff and players is greeted by a significant portion of this board with “you’re not a REAL fan” or “go find a new team”.
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The key word here being "reasonable"
 
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Thorp32 said:
What resume????? Winning with Saban? Winning one year with Jimbo. You could put the DC for the Little Sisters of the Poor in with Saban and "he or she" would look great. What did Pruitt do at GA without Daddy Saban oh yeah Butch Jones beat him 2 years straight. What has Fulmer ever done as an AD other than give Barnes what he rightfully deserved? Nothing. What did Fulmer do as a " consultant at ETSU? Nothing. He hired Carl Torbush as the coach? Really. So Fulmers most recent hires including Clawson have all been busts. Its time to take off the orange colored glasses and get real.
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Maybe you are or are not familiar with a Consulting role or job.. to say he did nothing is a bit of a stretch.

As you know at Fulmers recommendation they reached out to Carl Torbush who by the way was one of the best hires they could have made because he knew exactly how to build the program...how to get it stabilized and wasn't going to be a long time coach...which allows you to turn the keys over in a very suitable manner conducive to program stability.

The Clawson thing is beating a dead horse that's been discussed numerous times over and over and over at nauseam...but I think you used it to aid in your agenda. Pruitt has only been here one year...ETSU got the right guy when they brought back their FB program and the Clawson hire was years ago.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Coaching search...AD promises the world. We hire an up and coming "rising star". It is beaten into us the new coach has a good pedigree or coached under a great coach. Great recruiter, players love him. He wants to be here and that's what is important.

Then the wins don't come, recruiting busts, player issues abound, and the dumpster fire reignites.

Then, we do it all over again.
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Don't fault Pruitt because we hired Jones and Dooley. Never should've happened
 
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lifeisdeep said:
I'm going out on a limb and guessing you have not been following the Vols for very long? Johnny Majors had a national championship under his belt when we hired him. He also had several years of HC experience.

As much as he was a loathsome human being, even the guy down at Florida Atlantic had a better resume, in terms of head coaching experience (because he had some), than Pruitt when he was hired here. That doesn't mean Pruitt can't get it done; but your statement is somewhat insupportable.
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I'm 29. I remember the 98 season but not much before that. I forgot Majors had won a NC before coming here. My bad.


I will, however, disagree with you about Kiffin. His pre ut resume was being the Co OC when USC went to the NC game and lost. He went 5-15 as the head coach of the Raiders. Pruitt has 5 National Championships to his credit. So if you think going 5-15 in the NFL is a better accomplishment than winning 5 Titles in college, then yeah, Kiffin had a better resume.
 
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Thorp32 said:
What resume????? Winning with Saban? Winning one year with Jimbo. You could put the DC for the Little Sisters of the Poor in with Saban and "he or she" would look great. What did Pruitt do at GA without Daddy Saban oh yeah Butch Jones beat him 2 years straight. What has Fulmer ever done as an AD other than give Barnes what he rightfully deserved? Nothing. What did Fulmer do as a " consultant at ETSU? Nothing. He hired Carl Torbush as the coach? Really. So Fulmers most recent hires including Clawson have all been busts. Its time to take off the orange colored glasses and get real.
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Sounds like you were saying DCs can sometimes be overrated. That should have caused outrage.
 
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The game of football comes down to being able to block and tackle of which we could do neither on to many plays last season. You must have the skill position guys but winning is about allowing them to make plays. A DC can put you in the right position to make a play but he can't help you make the play. I saw at least a 100 maybe more plays when we were in the right position and whiffed on the tackle or let the QB escape from the pocket plays that you have to make to prevent scores and get off the field. We will start winning when we have an OL that can block effectively and tacklers that make the plays when they have the opportunity. OC, DC, Head Coach have to be able to recruit and give players the right instruction if players can't carry it out then your a losing team.
 
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OnlyGodForgives said:
The coaches that end up being considered legendary may achieve that level by picking their spots as much as anything else. Saban cherry-picked the Bama position knowing that his potential success would be greater there than almost all other places. Stoops pounced on the Oklahoma opening. Urban Meyer picked schools that recruit themselves. Dabo is an outlier, though Clemson has been solid historically. No one gets more international support than Kelly's Notre Dame program. The pipe dream that Pruitt will have anything much beyond .500 success at a run-down program that was never that great to begin with (pre-integration does not count because recruits don't care) is predicated on TN being elite. That has never been true. 7-5 in a good year will have to satisfy the various stakeholders, but at least there's the Vol Navy.
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Meyer led Utah to an undefeated season. Bill Snyder almost won a title at K state. No excuses.
 
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OnlyGodForgives said:
The coaches that end up being considered legendary may achieve that level by picking their spots as much as anything else. Saban cherry-picked the Bama position knowing that his potential success would be greater there than almost all other places. Stoops pounced on the Oklahoma opening. Urban Meyer picked schools that recruit themselves. Dabo is an outlier, though Clemson has been solid historically. No one gets more international support than Kelly's Notre Dame program. The pipe dream that Pruitt will have anything much beyond .500 success at a run-down program that was never that great to begin with (pre-integration does not count because recruits don't care) is predicated on TN being elite. That has never been true. 7-5 in a good year will have to satisfy the various stakeholders, but at least there's the Vol Navy.
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This is inaccurate on so many levels that it hardly warrants replying to. First you discard multiple decades just because, shockingly, suddenly in this day and age eighteen-year-olds are only eighteen and weren't alive fifty years ago; by this logic Miami, Nebraska, USC, and Texas are total irrelevant failures as football programs. Then you conveniently ignore (another word for it would be omit, another word would be lie) the '90's and early 2000's, in which we were as elite as elite gets.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Coaching search...AD promises the world. We hire an up and coming "rising star". It is beaten into us the new coach has a good pedigree or coached under a great coach. Great recruiter, players love him. He wants to be here and that's what is important.

Then the wins don't come, recruiting busts, player issues abound, and the dumpster fire reignites.

Then, we do it all over again.
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Pruitt checks off the right boxes. As far as talent he’s recruited, outside of maybe Peterson, I don’t recall a bust. Player issues are coming from guys from the previous staff with the exception of a handful IMO. Wins will come they just aren’t going to come as quickly as some think. JMO
 
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Speaking to the title of this thread, its more like hearing cool new music but quickly realizing its just a remix of the same bad song.
 
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