It's like we are listening to the same crappy song on repeat

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The Tall Gguy said:
So, do you have an opinion on how 2019 will be or are you just policing threads tonight?
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Not sure how my comment is policing thread, but since you asked, probably a six wib season I guess. I dont follow recruiting so dont know much about that. Only thing I know about it is we ranked about nid way through sec. Given our coach cant seem to coach about recruiting level, id expect us to be a mid / lower tier SEC team. Cheers.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Of course he is. But trying to say that the only reason Pruitt has a great reputation is because he latched on to good coaches is beyond foolis.
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The coaches that end up being considered legendary may achieve that level by picking their spots as much as anything else. Saban cherry-picked the Bama position knowing that his potential success would be greater there than almost all other places. Stoops pounced on the Oklahoma opening. Urban Meyer picked schools that recruit themselves. Dabo is an outlier, though Clemson has been solid historically. No one gets more international support than Kelly's Notre Dame program. The pipe dream that Pruitt will have anything much beyond .500 success at a run-down program that was never that great to begin with (pre-integration does not count because recruits don't care) is predicated on TN being elite. That has never been true. 7-5 in a good year will have to satisfy the various stakeholders, but at least there's the Vol Navy.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Coaching search...AD promises the world. We hire an up and coming "rising star". It is beaten into us the new coach has a good pedigree or coached under a great coach. Great recruiter, players love him. He wants to be here and that's what is important.

Then the wins don't come, recruiting busts, player issues abound, and the dumpster fire reignites.

Then, we do it all over again.
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volfannbama said:
He did do that, but in sure those coaches thought he was good. But again, not a hc.

But of course you are the one that said he should be fired for only winning 5 games. Lol...old threads are a mutha aren't they?
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LOL!!!!! Funny how the tune always changes on here when it comes to defending our coaches. Same thing happened with Dooley and Jones. Btw, your profile pick is still my favorite Navy helmet.
 
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OnlyGodForgives said:
The coaches that end up being considered legendary may achieve that level by picking their spots as much as anything else. Saban cherry-picked the Bama position knowing that his potential success would be greater there than almost all other places. Stoops pounced on the Oklahoma opening. Urban Meyer picked schools that recruit themselves. Dabo is an outlier, though Clemson has been solid historically. No one gets more international support than Kelly's Notre Dame program. The pipe dream that Pruitt will have anything much beyond .500 success at a run-down program that was never that great to begin with (pre-integration does not count because recruits don't care) is predicated on TN being elite. That has never been true. 7-5 in a good year will have to satisfy the various stakeholders, but at least there's the Vol Navy.
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I've been involved in football for 60 years and one thing that has always been a constant is teams have success in cycles. This includes High Schools,Colleges, and the NFL. Tennessee will be back and untill they do I suggest all the fans that constantly nitpick,whine,cry, bitch, and especially the xbox coaches who assume failure at every juncture to take an extended time release valium for their own good!
 
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Godfatha said:
6-6. I'd feel a lot better if we had a decent OL. Even with the new guys coming in, it will take them time to develop into SEC OL.
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With this class I could see 7-5 if they play cards right and call right plays. I just hope we start improving instead of regressing yet again. Another poor year and Pruitt might be on thin ice....
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
And he was able to recruit quality players more easily because

South Carolina sucked
Georgia's borders were wide open to us
He didnt inherit a team with a losing record
He dodnt have a losing record his first year.
He had a Heisman trophy finalist to point to when he sat down in living rooms
AND the most important thing was he had a big name recruit land in his lap because his brother could no longer play football.

Pruitt has none of the above in his favor. So comparing their situations isn't exactly valid.
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Honest question (no snark)

Who is the recruit you reference in your last point?
 
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I thought Peyton signed because of his relationship with Cut? Which brother could no longer play and how did that factor in?

Honest question. Never heard this angle.
 
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Peyton stated in the book of Manning that if Cooper would have been healthy he probably would have signed with Ole Miss to play with his brother. What the OP fails to mention is that we beat out literally every other school in America. It’s not like he just fell in our laps.
 
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VolInNW said:
I thought Peyton signed because of his relationship with Cut? Which brother could no longer play and how did that factor in?

Honest question. Never heard this angle.
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He had no history with Cutcliffe UNTIL he arrived at UT. It was built there.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Weve never hired a HC with the resume half as good as Pruitt
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I'm going out on a limb and guessing you have not been following the Vols for very long? Johnny Majors had a national championship under his belt when we hired him. He also had several years of HC experience.

As much as he was a loathsome human being, even the guy down at Florida Atlantic had a better resume, in terms of head coaching experience (because he had some), than Pruitt when he was hired here. That doesn't mean Pruitt can't get it done; but your statement is somewhat insupportable.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Coaching search...AD promises the world. We hire an up and coming "rising star". It is beaten into us the new coach has a good pedigree or coached under a great coach. Great recruiter, players love him. He wants to be here and that's what is important.

Then the wins don't come, recruiting busts, player issues abound, and the dumpster fire reignites.

Then, we do it all over again.
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You left out the part where reasonable criticisms of the staff and players is greeted by a significant portion of this board with “you’re not a REAL fan” or “go find a new team”.
 
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