It is a talent issue...

#26
#26
We hired Dooley when no one else would take the job. The situation would be worse if we make a change now. No one wants to walk into this mess.

Dooley will not win us a championship but the program needs some stability and a few positive things to happen before we look for another coach.
 
#27
#27
I think we need to give Dooley time.
But I also think we were outcoached today. We were uninspired and we didn't find a way to win. Kentucky took a receiver, turned him into a QB and found a way to get the W.
 
#28
#28
salocke said:
If you don't see your coach winning championships, he does not need to be your coach. 8 wins will not cut it, especially when you look at Dooley's soft non-conference schedule in 2012. Demand excellence!
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7 would be something he hasn't accomplished at UT...I would hope for 8-9 wins next season and had better win 4 SEC games. My guess is he has 12 months to prove he is worth it....if he doesn't take a step forward then cya
 
#29
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Jaytrain5 said:
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I'm ready for the next dude.
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There is no realistic shot. I posted it up in another thread, even assuming we could get anybody good to take over the fukushima-esque mess left behind, squeezing the extra $10mil out of the VASF and donors to do so is highly unlikely at best.

I don't think Dooley is a good coach whatsoever and I don't think he's ever going to be good at UT. But we're stuck with him for at least another season.
 
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BigOrangePredsFan said:
We hired Dooley when no one else would take the job. The situation would be worse if we make a change now. No one wants to walk into this mess.

Dooley will not win us a championship but the program needs some stability and a few positive things to happen before we look for another coach.
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It isn't going to be positive or stable no matter when he exits. Wait till next year? If he gets fired it will be because our record sucks. Good chance Hunter and/ or Bray will be gone. Exactly when do you expect Dooley to have this program in stable shape? No matter the year he gets fired, this program is going to be in the dumps when it happens.
 
#33
#33
BigOrangePredsFan said:
I posted this on another site earlier:

I think Dooley can get it going and consistently win 8-10 games per year. I don't see him winning any championships.

That being said, Tennessee cannot fire Dooley right now.

I am not trying to give the coaching staff a pass but this team is bad. There is very litte talent. There is even less experience.

There were only four players on the field today (Malik Jackson, Bray, DaRick Rogers, and Prentiss Waggner) who could make the two deep on LSU, Bama, Arky, or UGA. Two of those were playing with significant injuries.

There is only one senior who is a legitimate SEC starter in Malik Jackson.

There is only one junior who is a legitimate SEC starter in Waggner.

The cluster frick left by Fulmer, Kiffin, and Hamilton was easily a three to four year rebuilding process. I know that there are several examples of coaching turnover that had immediate results. But I can guarantee that those situations did not involve three straight losing seasons and 38 players being kicked off the team or transferring during that time.

The Oline coach (Hiestand) should be fired. A running backs coach needs to be hired.

IMO, Dooley should win 8-10 next year based upon the talent coming back. If not, he should be put on notice that his fourth year could be his last.

I believe most posters on here do not realize how bad we are.

Go Big Orange!
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For the most part I agree and by doing so....I have been labled a Dooley supporter and etc.. I've taken a wait and see attitude because of this and believe he should get another year....and then based on it...perhaps more
 
#34
#34
allvol123 said:
It isn't going to be positive or stable no matter when he exits. Wait till next year? If he gets fired it will be because our record sucks. Good chance Hunter and/ or Bray will be gone. Exactly when do you expect Dooley to have this program in stable shape? No matter the year he gets fired, this program is going to be in the dumps when it happens.
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Exactly.

If we are going to fire him next year, just do it this year. The next coach will have some real skill position talent to work with and be able to coach up some of these raw athletes.

If said coach has a good year, the recruits will start coming in. If he struggles - it's par for the course.
 
#38
#38
Give him another year. If it is another subpar year, offer Jim Tressel barring he has no litigation pending from Ohio State. A proven coach with a real winning track record. He got caught with his pants down at OSU, but that will be 3 years behind him by then and all these coaches know of or have dirt on them.
 
#40
#40
Have to agree on the coaching. Sure, we aren't the most talented team but that sure as hell doesnt mean we are on UK's level. We should have beat them, period.
 
#41
#41
Catbone said:
Have to agree on the coaching. Sure, we aren't the most talented team but that sure as hell doesnt mean we are on UK's level. We should have beat them, period.
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Because it's the staff's fault Bray sucked it up and we don't have a running back worth a penny?
 
#44
#44
Sorry but the OP is trying to say we have no real talent then that IS DOOLEYS fault, he's had 2 classes to bring in talent and he really hasn't. Sure if he was still coaching in the WAC the talent he's brought in would be great, but for the SEC its just not enough to cut it. He's too worried about character and therefor ignores actual talent. Sorry but even though his classes have ranked high, they sure haven't panned out to be what they should have. So either its Dooley has a knack for finding all the highly rated players that won't actually pan out, or, the more likely scenario, Dooley has no idea how to develop players.
Its been pretty obvious he doesn't even know the basics of how to coach a winning team. First you base your play calling off the actual talent you have, not force your players to run plays that may expose their weaknesses. Two, accept responsibility for your actions, when you call the worst plays at the worst time don't blame the players because they couldn't lead into gold. Third, when your down by 2-3 scores going into the fourth quarter you pass at least twice as much as you run, not the other way around. Finally, change things up, do NOT become so predictable a 3yr old can tell what your gonna on the next play before the previous play is even over.
 
#45
#45
The Oline coach (Hiestand) should be fired. A running backs coach needs to be hired.

IMO, Dooley should win 8-10 next year based upon the talent coming back. If not, he should be put on notice that his fourth year could be his last.

I believe most posters on here do not realize how bad we are.

Go Big Orange![/QUOTE]

The O line coach is not the issue. The issue is the sprint-draw system they have tried to make the basis of our running game. It is not going to work in the SEC . Richt brought the same basic design from the ACC and has moved very far away from it and into a power based system . The sprint draw takes way too long to develope , it is easy to read , and SEC backers are just too fast .

The offensive line can pass block , which is usually thought of as much harder than run blocking. If they were not have ing so much success pass blocking ..I would agree with you .

The offense's scheme is flawed from a design stand point as well as what I would term as impatient play calling. It could be alot better if it was not flawed....with the existing players.
 
#46
#46
JFBanicki said:
Sorry but the OP is trying to say we have no real talent then that IS DOOLEYS fault, he's had 2 classes to bring in talent and he really hasn't. Sure if he was still coaching in the WAC the talent he's brought in would be great, but for the SEC its just not enough to cut it. He's too worried about character and therefor ignores actual talent. Sorry but even though his classes have ranked high, they sure haven't panned out to be what they should have. So either its Dooley has a knack for finding all the highly rated players that won't actually pan out, or, the more likely scenario, Dooley has no idea how to develop players.
Its been pretty obvious he doesn't even know the basics of how to coach a winning team. First you base your play calling off the actual talent you have, not force your players to run plays that may expose their weaknesses. Two, accept responsibility for your actions, when you call the worst plays at the worst time don't blame the players because they couldn't lead into gold. Third, when your down by 2-3 scores going into the fourth quarter you pass at least twice as much as you run, not the other way around. Finally, change things up, do NOT become so predictable a 3yr old can tell what your gonna on the next play before the previous play is even over.
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your a fool
 
#47
#47
UTodd01 said:
That's actually exactly what we are saying.

These Doolittle supporters are really grasping at straws tonight.
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Hardly. Bray was the best option at QB, despite his thumb and apparent sickness. Nothing we can do about the O-line until the off-season (now) by firing our O-line coach and getting someone competent. Also, we've got some running back commits that should come in and help the running game in the future. When we're healthy next year, and our youngsters have been given an off-season to continue improving, a lot of the "questionable" play calling will begin to work. Not that our coaches are perfect, but to say that they are the main blame is silly. Just wait until next year. We'll be much improved and we have a favorable schedule.
 
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