ISIS Takes Control of Mosul

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CNCVol88 said:
Take out Memphis, Atlanta, and probably Miami and it doesn't look half as bad.
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Perhaps.

I've seen, however, enough evidence of ****trash committed by individuals that thought they were the second coming of Jesus to, understandably, be cautious before making such assumptions.

****trash: it's all around you. Probably even next door. But hopefully not.
 
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volinbham said:
I agree. I have no problem with the attempt. I do have a problem with the leaking of all the details and my assumption is that it was done for political reasons.
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They released the details because a reporter had found out about it . I don't understand how releasing details about a failed rescue mission would help him politically anyway
 
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And that makes me think, there's a serious question: would you rather be murdered or would you rather be raped repeatedly by your own parents?

I don't mean to be crude. It's a legitimate question and one that speaks to our basic definitions of what is ultimate evil. We can all agree that ISIS is ultimate evil. Yet evil exist in our own communities.

To place it in "unjust" terms, is it better to rape someone and force them to deal with it forever or to just kill them and get the trauma over with?

Interesting question.

And I have no clue why I'm asking this, other than it just being a question I've struggled with constantly ever since I was a kid in the DA's office.
 
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kevino said:
They released the details because a reporter had found out about it . I don't understand how releasing details about a failed rescue mission would help him politically anyway
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May have something to do with the perception that they just left them there to die and didnt raise a finger to try and change that.
 
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volprof said:
And that makes me think, there's a serious question: would you rather be murdered or would you rather be raped repeatedly by your own parents?

I don't mean to be crude. It's a legitimate question and one that speaks to our basic definitions of what is ultimate evil. We can all agree that ISIS is ultimate evil. Yet evil exist in our own communities.

To place it in "unjust" terms, is it better to rape someone and force them to deal with it forever or to just kill them and get the trauma over with?

Interesting question.

And I have no clue why I'm asking this, other than it just being a question I've struggled with constantly ever since I was a kid in the DA's office.
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Are you on something?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Are you on something?
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Yes.

My point, however, was that evil, while not always ideological (like ISIS), is all around us, even in places you wouldn't suspect. Your own neighbors perhaps.

Which do you think is more evil: killing someone and getting it over with, or raping someone and leaving them with the rest of their life to "deal with it"? Conventional wisdom tells us murder is worse. The law certainly looks at it that way.
 
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volprof said:
Yes.

My point, however, was that evil, while not always ideological (like ISIS), is all around us, even in places you wouldn't suspect. Your own neighbors perhaps.

Which do you think is more evil: killing someone and getting it over with, or raping someone and leaving them with the rest of their life to "deal with it"? Conventional wisdom tells us murder is worse. The law certainly looks at it that way.
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Honestly both are pretty damn evil, but there is a difference. I mean I can never expect to understand what a woman who has been in that position feels.

That being said, a murdered person has no chance at life going forward. Their life is halted and nothing can be done about it further. A rape victim's fate is in his/her hands (I'm not going to be one of those that says men can't be raped). Many have gone on to help others who have been in their position, make a great life for themselves, and even find true love and live a full life liberated from that nasty and gruesome experience.

EDIT: But I don't think the person who committed the crime should be judged based on a "best case scenario." Some people never fully get over it and some might as well be dead after that event.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Honestly both are pretty damn evil, but there is a difference. I mean I can never expect to understand what a woman who has been in that position feels.

That being said, a murdered person has no chance at life going forward. Their life is halted and nothing can be done about it further. A rape victim's fate is in his/her hands (I'm not going to be one of those that says men can't be raped). Many have gone on to help others who have been in their position, make a great life for themselves, and even find true love and live a full life liberated from that nasty and gruesome experience.

EDIT: But I don't think the person who committed the crime should be judged based on a "best case scenario." Some people never fully get over it and some might as well be dead after that event.
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Excellent, thoughtful, and articulate post.
 
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volprof said:
Yes.

My point, however, was that evil, while not always ideological (like ISIS), is all around us, even in places you wouldn't suspect. Your own neighbors perhaps.

Which do you think is more evil: killing someone and getting it over with, or raping someone and leaving them with the rest of their life to "deal with it"? Conventional wisdom tells us murder is worse. The law certainly looks at it that way.
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That's like asking what is wetter, fresh or saltwater.

You are always asking thought provoking questions, which I am very good with, just thought it seemed an odd time and place.
 
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ISIS makes a threat to blow up a US city,.........and the south border is still open.

Obama took an oath to protect our border, yet another lie.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
That's like asking what is wetter, fresh or saltwater.

You are always asking thought provoking questions, which I am very good with, just thought it seemed an odd time and place.
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It was an odd time and place, I admit that. I was drunk and meditating. Philosophizing even.

And, I could be wrong, but fresh water may actually be "wetter" than saltwater, if, by "wet," we mean pure liquid content. Those salt molecules complicate things.
 
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AirVol said:
ISIS makes a threat to blow up a US city,.........and the south border is still open.

Obama took an oath to protect our border, yet another lie.
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But congress doesn't want to get serious about it either. I'd almost support a temporary military coup that would try the leaders of our country based upon their oathes to the constitution. Did you fail your country by promoting amnesty and open borders? If the answer is "yes," then they are sentenced to 30 years hard labor.
 
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