ISIS Takes Control of Mosul

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Looks (at least per RUMINT) like there is some sort of coup underway in Baghdad.
 
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Sounds like troops loyal to Maliki have been deployed around the city after he criticized the President. Maliki is facing pressure to step down and he doesn't really want to...
 
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Burhead said:
Looks (at least per RUMINT) like there is some sort of coup underway in Baghdad.
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Are you kidding me? My god. Let's just hope it's the right kind of coup. Admittedly, the Maliki govt. is a piece of **** that deserved to get kicked to the curve a long time ago. But any mention of "coup" in this part of the world worries me.

If true, I guess we'll know soon.
 
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Burhead said:
Sounds like troops loyal to Maliki have been deployed around the city after he criticized the President. Maliki is facing pressure to step down and he doesn't really want to...
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Is it a Sunni bunch wanting to take power or a coalition govt.? This will make or break the future of Iraq.
 
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volprof said:
Is it a Sunni bunch wanting to take power or a coalition govt.? This will make or break the future of Iraq.
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Honestly I don't know, I just think the President and the rest of parliament didn't like the way he handled the months leading up to the ISIS advance. Now he is blasting the President and does not plan to drop his bid for a third term as Prime Minister.

Iraq Special Forces Of Maliki Deployed In Baghdad
 
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volprof said:
Good god. It's like some idiots just like being idiots.
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Just what we need is Baghdad going into chaos as IS advances. I wonder if this is Maliki's decision or is his hand being forced by a higher power (Tehran)?
 
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Burhead said:
Just what we need is Baghdad going into chaos as IS advances. I wonder if this is Maliki's decision or is his hand being forced by a higher power (Tehran)?
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Who the hell knows! I swear, this Iraqi govt. really screwed the pooch. And let's hope to god that Tehran isn't deciding that this is an opportune time.

That Richard Cheney. I swear. To this day, I'd love to wring his old, geezer neck.
 
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volprof said:
Who the hell knows! I swear, this Iraqi govt. really screwed the pooch. And let's hope to god that Tehran isn't deciding that this is an opportune time.

That Richard Cheney. I swear. To this day, I'd love to wring his old, geezer neck.
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He's about to start making a lot more money. As soon as this next war kicks off.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
He's about to start making a lot more money. As soon as this next war kicks off.
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Hell if I know. I just know that that man ran our country into the dirt during his presidency and Bush, Jr's vice presidency. Obama hasn't helped, just so that the anti-Obamites on here don't mercilessly attack me.

You might think I'm ****ting you, but 5 or 6 years ago, when I first moved out here and before I met my wife, I went out on one date with a girl whose father was friends with Dick Cheney, as she informed me. She was rich Houston oil money. I don't remember specifically anymore, but I **** you not, she said that Cheney had given her father a gun as a gift. I just laughed.

Nothing against the girl. She was sweet. But I never went out with her again. Family dinners would have been far too awkward.
 
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volprof said:
Good god. It's like some idiots just like being idiots.
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Burhead said:
Just what we need is Baghdad going into chaos as IS advances. I wonder if this is Maliki's decision or is his hand being forced by a higher power (Tehran)?
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I haven't heard much about the ISIS advances south in recent days. I know they are hitting the Kurds pretty hard though.

Wonder if they are spread a little thin and are focusing on one thing at a time?
 
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About time:

US sending arms to Iraq's Kurds in battle against militants, official says | Fox News

The United States is sending weapons to Kurdish forces in Iraq who have begun to roll back gains made by Sunni militants, a senior U.S. official confirmed to Fox News.

Providing weapons to Kurdish forces is a reversal of U.S. policy, which previously had only allowed for selling arms directly to the Iraqi government. In recent days, the U.S. military has been helping facilitate weapons deliveries from the Iraqis to the Kurds, providing logistical assistance and transportation to the north.
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And of course while the Kurds are fighting ISIS every bit of the way:

Iraq: Troops swell in Baghdad amid humanitarian chaos - CNN.com

Iraqi forces and tanks surged into some Baghdad neighborhoods Sunday as a wave of troops swarmed Baghdad's Green Zone -- the secure area where many government buildings, the military headquarters and the U.S. Embassy are located, two Iraqi police officials said.

Exactly what led to the surge remains unclear. But some believe the beefed up military presence is part of a power struggle between second-term Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and newly elected President Fuad Masum.

"You've got Nuri al-Maliki refusing to step down. Now he's mobilized not just security troops loyal to him, but now he's mobilized army units to put tanks in the streets,"said retired Lt. Col. Rick Francona, a CNN military analyst.
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Grand Vol said:
I haven't heard much about the ISIS advances south in recent days. I know they are hitting the Kurds pretty hard though.

Wonder if they are spread a little thin and are focusing on one thing at a time?
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You would think so, especially with how fast they have been moving. They probably realized they don't have the manpower to take the whole country in one go so shifted strategy from before to a single focus now. A little scary the animals can think (if this is indeed what has happened)
 
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LouderVol said:
You would think so, especially with how fast they have been moving. They probably realized they don't have the manpower to take the whole country in one go so shifted strategy from before to a single focus now. A little scary the animals can think (if this is indeed what has happened)
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That is the key question right there. Who is pulling the strings and in command? Tactics don't win wars, logistics do. And for someone to recognize the fact that logistically they cannot support a two pronged drive (an assumption) is not your average insurgent type fighter. So I'm curious as to who exactly is planning this out for them.

It makes sense they would try to consolidate the gains in the north and take out the Kurds before moving south again. It removes that potential thorn from their flank.
 
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Grand Vol said:
That is the key question right there. Who is pulling the strings and in command? Tactics don't win wars, logistics do. And for someone to recognize the fact that logistically they cannot support a two pronged drive (an assumption) is not your average insurgent type fighter. So I'm curious as to who exactly is planning this out for them.

It makes sense they would try to consolidate the gains in the north and take out the Kurds before moving south again. It removes that potential thorn from their flank.
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Here would be your answer, good sir.

Rising Star of ISIS Has Chechen Background and Fierce Reputation - NBC News

Omar the Chechen. It's clear as day though that someone knows what they're doing, given the numbers of ISIS fighters, which is relatively small even compared with other Islamist groups. I guess al-Baghdadi figured if he was going to do it, he might as well do it right and do it with the Jihad Dream Team.
 
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We are going to arm the Kurds through the CIA but no heavy weaponry, just small-arms and ammunition.
 
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Stratfor reporting that forces loyal to Maliki have blockaded the new Prime Minister candidate in a hotel in the green zone.
 
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Velo Vol said:
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All fun or games until someone has their head sawed off with a 6 inch blade or 300 people get buried alive out in the desert.

But, other than that, looks like a pleasant place.
 
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volprof said:
All fun or games until someone has their head sawed off with a 6 inch blade or 300 people get buried alive out in the desert.

But, other than that, looks like a pleasant place.
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At the start I was fiercely anti-Assad and supported his overthrow. After seeing the true nature of what will take over in a post-Assad power vacuum is making me rethink he may be the lesser of two evils.
 
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