Is UT done with the Passleys?

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Everyone knows about #13's trouble and now he's not traveling or dressing for home games. I've heard negative things about his brother too. Should UT just cut ties and move on? I for one would like to see us move on and use the scholly on a better prospect.
 
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Were done with both of them, his brother was booted from his high school team earlier this year.. Were going to have a monster 2008 class because of it. Were high on alot of elite prospects next year, as well as a few 2009 guys.. This program is about to explode with the players were going to bring in.
 
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Any details on why Tony is not dressing out for the games and why his brother was kicked off?
 
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The fact that he can't play 2 minutes without picking up a technical might have something to do with it. I'm sure he's gone. Cutting out the chaff (Passley, Marques Johnson - remember him?) makes more room for the wheat, gives us one more scholly to give for next year.
 
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DowntownVol said:
The fact that he can't play 2 minutes without picking up a technical might have something to do with it. I'm sure he's gone. Cutting out the chaff (Passley, Marques Johnson - remember him?) makes more room for the wheat, gives us one more scholly to give for next year.
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Were these kids that we're cutting all on scholarship? If so, how does the UT athletic department boot someone off of scholarship to free up room for others? Can they do it for violation of team rules, or something like that?
 
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HotlantaVol said:
Were these kids that we're cutting all on scholarship? If so, how does the UT athletic department boot someone off of scholarship to free up room for others? Can they do it for violation of team rules, or something like that?
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Johnson trasnsferred so he forfeited his scholly. Players can get released from scholarships on an annual basis if they just aren't earning it. Schollys are a yearly renewal, not a 4 year "contract." Ethically, schollys are viewed as a 4 year commitment from both parties (student/athlete and universtity), however when one party doesn't fulfil the expectations, the other party is not obligated to renew said yearly commitment.
 
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The problem with Tony likely being gone is that this could take away that scholly for this coming class because of APR. We wouldn't take more than 1 in the spring anyways so it really doesn't matter.
 
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hvwarrior58 said:
The problem with Tony likely being gone is that this could take away that scholly for this coming class because of APR. We wouldn't take more than 1 in the spring anyways so it really doesn't matter.
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Better to have it for later anyway as the McClain kid seems to be the only talent that we can get that is worth it for 2007, unless there is some sleeper JUCO I don't know about. Get McClain and move on to the next year. As stated in the recruiting forum, 2008 class could be sick and better than the current group of freshman. Imagine the 2006 group being SRs. and the 2008 group being Sophs. Fun times ahead.:dance2: :rock:
 
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roswellvol said:
Johnson trasnsferred so he forfeited his scholly. Players can get released from scholarships on an annual basis if they just aren't earning it. Schollys are a yearly renewal, not a 4 year "contract." Ethically, schollys are viewed as a 4 year commitment from both parties (student/athlete and universtity), however when one party doesn't fulfil the expectations, the other party is not obligated to renew said yearly commitment.
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Thank you for that explanation. It sounds like Bruce is laying down high standards for performance and conduct, which in my opinion is good and is long overdue.
 
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HotlantaVol said:
Thank you for that explanation. It sounds like Bruce is laying down high standards for performance and conduct, which in my opinion is good and is long overdue.
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After living through UT football's offseason of arrests a couple years back, I'll support Pearl being a disciplinarian.
 
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HotlantaVol said:
Thank you for that explanation. It sounds like Bruce is laying down high standards for performance and conduct, which in my opinion is good and is long overdue.
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It's dicey to deal with from a recruiting perspective to have a coach basically say, "Get to work or get out," but I like it. Imagine how this tactic might work for the FB team if Fulmer did it. There are NO free rides.
 
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roswellvol said:
It's dicey to deal with from a recruiting perspective to have a coach basically say, "Get to work or get out," but I like it. Imagine how this tactic might work for the FB team if Fulmer did it. There are NO free rides.
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On the other hand, if Pearl and his staff can start developing a steady line of players into the NBA, I think a lot of recruits will weigh that risk/reward favorably and jump into the pipeline.
 
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roswellvol said:
Johnson trasnsferred so he forfeited his scholly. Players can get released from scholarships on an annual basis if they just aren't earning it. Schollys are a yearly renewal, not a 4 year "contract." Ethically, schollys are viewed as a 4 year commitment from both parties (student/athlete and universtity), however when one party doesn't fulfil the expectations, the other party is not obligated to renew said yearly commitment.
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if thats the case, then did we get an extra scholarship from wingate being dismissed?
 
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Sudeepvol said:
if thats the case, then did we get an extra scholarship from wingate being dismissed?
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Lofton, Smith, Smith, Crews, Chism, Bradshaw, Childress, Howell, Tabb, and Passley (for now) are on scholarship that I know of. That's 10. I believe the max for BB is 13. Bradshaw leaving makes 9. Tatum, Williams, Prince, and McClain (hopefully) would put us at 13. So technically getting McClain would be in lieu of Wingate. If we don't get him, then we would have a total of 5 open (if Passley is really gone) to offer for the 2008 class of recruits.

Don't take this as gospel because I don't know all the exact details, but this is the logical scenario I came up with.
 
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I keep hearing talk about McClain... what are UT's realistic chances of landing him and does anyone know when he's planning on committing/announcing?
 
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tidwell said:
I keep hearing talk about McClain... what are UT's realistic chances of landing him and does anyone know when he's planning on committing/announcing?
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The lowdown is this. His 4 choices are UConn, UF, Cincy, and UT. He wants playing time and UConn already has a C that will play 30+ minutes a game if he doesn't bolt for the pros, which is now unlikely. UF may or may not have a scholly available. Which basically leaves Cincy and UT. Kind of a toss up there as both can offer plaing time. He said he wants to visit Knoxville, but he may not until later in the spring perhaps even summer. He probably won't announce anytime soon.

He's ranked #51 overall by Rivals and the #6 C prospect. A little on the skinny side, but could probably provide a good 12-18 minutes off the bench in the post next season. You can never have enough good post players. Technically, if he signs, we have 4 legit post players that would allow us to never have to run with 4 guards unless we really just wanted to try to run teams out of the gym. This guy may end up being the key to being a top 10 team next year as we no longer should have a size disadvatage against top teams.
 
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Thanks for the synopsis of the situation. Exactly what I was looking for. :good!:
 
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Last year, it was Ramar. This Spring, it's McClain. Whenever Pearl is targeting just one guy, I feel good about our chances.
 
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ukvols said:
Any details on why Tony is not dressing out for the games and why his brother was kicked off?
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I'm in the dark too. I've been wondering why Passley wasn't playing. I know he got some technicals but what really is the problem? Thanks :salute:
 
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well we all know about the drug thing plus on the court he has more technicals than field goals and everything i've heard is that his grades are bad
 
#25
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Tony Passley doesn't get on the floor because he's not an SEC caliber player.
 
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