Is this the most depressing time in UT history?

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I am a Tennessee Vol fan. That is never depressing. I can not think of another team that I would want to follow. That thought would be depressing.
 
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volfanecs said:
I am a Tennessee Vol fan. That is never depressing. I can not think of another team that I would want to follow. That thought would be depressing.
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But you could be a UCF fan and declare yourself national champions every year. :crazy:
 
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Boca Vol said:
I remember those days. UT would lose a game they had no business losing then follow it up with a great win.
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The Vols had so many chances to win a National Title in the 80s but would drop a loss or 2 to a ******** team like you said. Drove me and my dad crazy.

I think the 85, 88, and 89 VOLS Teams could have beaten anyone to be honest though. They were Majors Teams at its best
 
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TrentVol said:
The Vols had so many chances to win a National Title in the 80s but would drop a loss or 2 to a ******** team like you said. Drove me and my dad crazy.

I think the 85, 88, and 89 VOLS Teams could have beaten anyone to be honest though. They were Majors Teams at its best
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The 88 team was 5-6 after starting 0-6. After that season, Walt Harris was fired as offensive coordinator and Phil Fulmer was promoted to offensive coordinator and recruiting coordinator and they went 11-1. They where co SEC Champs with Alabama and Auburn. 1990 team was 9-2-2 was SEC champs because Florida was on NCAA probation. The 1985 team was SEC Champs because Florida was on NCAA probation.

So if Florida had not been in trouble with the NCAA, the 85 team does not win the SEC and the Sugar Bowl doesn't happen. The 90 team doesn't win if Florida is not in NCAA trouble. The 89 team was in a 3 way tie for the title. If Florida doesn't get caught, Tennessee doesn't win two of Major's titles. If they did it the way they do it now, they would have played Auburn for the SEC title. If they had won that game they would have been champs. Had they lost, Majors would have had zero SEC titles.

As for all the great 80's teams, most where not good. But 1987 they went 10-2-1. Lost to Alabama and Boston College and tied Auburn. BC was unranked and was 5-6 that year. Alabama was 7-5 that year and unranked. So no, Tennessee had no chances in the 1980's to win a National Championship.
 
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VolFan..But said:
The 88 team was 5-6 after starting 0-6. After that season, Walt Harris was fired as offensive coordinator and Phil Fulmer was promoted to offensive coordinator and recruiting coordinator and they went 11-1. They where co SEC Champs with Alabama and Auburn. 1990 team was 9-2-2 was SEC champs because Florida was on NCAA probation. The 1985 team was SEC Champs because Florida was on NCAA probation.

So if Florida had not been in trouble with the NCAA, the 85 team does not win the SEC and the Sugar Bowl doesn't happen. The 90 team doesn't win if Florida is not in NCAA trouble. The 89 team was in a 3 way tie for the title. If Florida doesn't get caught, Tennessee doesn't win two of Major's titles. If they did it the way they do it now, they would have played Auburn for the SEC title. If they had won that game they would have been champs. Had they lost, Majors would have had zero SEC titles.

As for all the great 80's teams, most where not good. But 1987 they went 10-2-1. Lost to Alabama and Boston College and tied Auburn. BC was unranked and was 5-6 that year. Alabama was 7-5 that year and unranked. So no, Tennessee had no chances in the 1980's to win a National Championship.
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vol fan but...........i'm really a gator fan?
 
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VolFan..But said:
The 88 team was 5-6 after starting 0-6. After that season, Walt Harris was fired as offensive coordinator and Phil Fulmer was promoted to offensive coordinator and recruiting coordinator and they went 11-1. They where co SEC Champs with Alabama and Auburn. 1990 team was 9-2-2 was SEC champs because Florida was on NCAA probation. The 1985 team was SEC Champs because Florida was on NCAA probation.

So if Florida had not been in trouble with the NCAA, the 85 team does not win the SEC and the Sugar Bowl doesn't happen. The 90 team doesn't win if Florida is not in NCAA trouble. The 89 team was in a 3 way tie for the title. If Florida doesn't get caught, Tennessee doesn't win two of Major's titles. If they did it the way they do it now, they would have played Auburn for the SEC title. If they had won that game they would have been champs. Had they lost, Majors would have had zero SEC titles.

As for all the great 80's teams, most where not good. But 1987 they went 10-2-1. Lost to Alabama and Boston College and tied Auburn. BC was unranked and was 5-6 that year. Alabama was 7-5 that year and unranked. So no, Tennessee had no chances in the 1980's to win a National Championship.
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Majors had mediocre teams, but the 1985 Team, 89 team really could have beat anyone i think. I know Majors had top 10 finishes in the AP during the 80s, so that what I mean about how The Vols really missed some great chances to win one that decade . I didn't remember Majors 88 team being that bad tho, its been a while haha
 
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TrentVol said:
Hes right , my mind forgot some of Majors early 80s seasons. Lol.
But if UT didnt lose to Bama in 89, they could have been AP National champs. That was the only loss
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i know he's right. but all that stuff did happen, and we won/shared those conference titles. so what's the point in the revisionist history, 30 years later, unless Coach Pell is still butt hurt?
 
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I’d say the night Kiffin walked was the worst in hindsight. Because it triggered a series of bad luck and misery that has lasted for about 10 years.
 
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TrentVol said:
Hes right , my mind forgot some of Majors early 80s seasons. Lol.
But if UT didnt lose to Bama in 89, they could have been AP National champs. That was the only loss
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I'll never forget how our only loss was to a top 10 team and somehow we weren't even talked about in the national title scenario of one loss teams. It made no sense.
 
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Elhanan said:
I’d say the night Kiffin walked was the worst in hindsight. Because it triggered a series of bad luck and misery that has lasted for about 10 years.
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I think you might be right. I remember an insider telling me that 2 coaching changes in 14 months was going to be devastating and might take 5 years+ to recover from. I thought he was overreacting.....
 
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GAVol said:
I'll never forget how our only loss was to a top 10 team and somehow we weren't even talked about in the national title scenario of one loss teams. It made no sense.
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i know. freaking bama.

i'll never forget after the 85 sugar bowl complaining to my dad that we just throttled Miami, who beat OU, but OU wont he title, and i was like "BS!"...lol.

those were still some of hte most fun teams i've ever watched....
 
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GAVol said:
I'll never forget how our only loss was to a top 10 team and somehow we weren't even talked about in the national title scenario of one loss teams. It made no sense.
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Yup and the SEC was super stiff competition that year. Even Arkansas was great that year. UT did finish #5 but man they were a special team
 
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jakez4ut said:
i know. freaking bama.

i'll never forget after the 85 sugar bowl complaining to my dad that we just throttled Miami, who beat OU, but OU wont he title, and i was like "BS!"...lol.

those were still some of hte most fun teams i've ever watched....
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I cant stand Oklahoma. Always root against them. Their fans are arrogant based on my interactions with em.

I do know the 1956 Vols team that Johnny Majors played on got robbed by the AP that year. Oklahoma had a super easy schedule, only one of their opponents finished with a winning record. But OU finished #1 and AP gave UT the 2nd spot. That was the era where national champs were crowned after regular season ended and bowls were not a factor to win the national title .
 
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