Is there hope? Urban Meyer???

It would take more than money. It would take all the powers being serious about winning football again.
Raising the money would be much easier than getting "the powers" to all row in the same direction...
 
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Then he has no business being in the position that he’s in.

If he cares so much about this program, then he would do what it takes to make us relevant again.
You're right, he doesn't.

He hired a Gump....and gave him a 2 year extension for beating Indiana.....on a fluke play.
 
Is there any hope for Urban Meyer? No. Can’t believe it warrants this amount of discussion. Let’s not even get into the money discussion because that’s unimportant. Play Alabama, Florida and Georgia each year? Saban alone was enough to make him run from the SEC. If he comes back it will be a big program in a low competition conference.

I disagree 100%. He didn’t run from Saban. Coaching at the highest level requires this staggering amount of commitment. I think he was burned out and needed a break. Really the same happened after his run at Ohio state. I think he could be had if we sold out to get him. Saban is nearing the end of his career. The man is nearly 70 for Christ sake. And for a guy like urban that’s already accomplished so much if he could come to Tennessee and return them to being a top 10 team that’s in the mix for the seccg year and year out it would absolutely cement his legacy as one of the best to ever do it
 
This would never ever happen but… If Phillip former went to all the power brokers at UT and said let’s go throw the absolute house at urban Meyer we would get him. And we’d instantly be a top 10 program year in and year out. He has to feel like a scorned lover the way he left Ohio state after all he did there. He’s still relatively young and will absolutely be back in college football one day. He made all these over the top positive comments about Tennessee last year when Pruitt was struggling.

Fulmer could elevate his status to legendary among the Vol faithful with that move. But he’s too conservative and cowardly. Instead, he’ll absolutely attach himself to Jeremy pruitt and go down kicking and screaming with him two years down the road with the program in the gutter. He was responsible for the initial fall and he’ll be responsible for us going down even farther. And that’s what his legacy will be. So damn sad. It’s right there in front of us. We’d just need to give urban the same type deal that a&m gave Jimbo. And he have to know that he is absolutely the guy we want and that we won’t take no for an answer. Go big or go home. That’s how you win in life. And that’s what it’ll take to get Tennessee back ti the top. An elite/established/Rick star of a coach
 
He is never coming to UT.

He will to a school that recruits itself in an easier conference where the AD and school will sell their souls to win.

We aren't remotely that.

FSU or USC is very likely.

USC is where he would land if he wanted and may eventually.

Maybe texas.
 
Bob Stoops is what the doctor ordered for Tennessee. He turned around a flailing Oklahoma program and comes from the Dan Snyder coaching tree. Perfect guy for a program rebuild

I don't think Bob has the drive when he first came on the scene. Granted I'm still royally pissed about the 3k he cost me by accepting a penalty to punt again from the Oklahoma State 40, up 7, with OSU having no timeouts and 40 seconds left in the game when he could have declined and OSU would have been at their own 16. Of course the second punt got housed and Oklahoma lost in OT. Easily one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen from a coach at any level with no justifiable defense.
 
Botch was a proven winner. Scott Frost, Chip Kelly, Jim Harbaugh, Ed O, Kiffin, all proven winners.
And your point is. Kelly had Oregon in the hunt for National titles every year, Ed O won the title, Kiffin. Harbaugh and Frost have produce numerous 9 and 10 win seasons.
 
USC will pay urban whatever it takes to get him to the coast---$10 million / year guaranteed for 10 years, plus a huge oceanfront mansion in Malibu or Redondo near a bunch of movie stars and music execs!
 
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We would win 1 or 2 national titles if Urban was here for 7 years. He's every inch Saban's equal in program building and game day coaching. He just doesn't have the commitment to stay any where for more than 5-7 years.
 
I don't think Bob has the drive when he first came on the scene. Granted I'm still royally pissed about the 3k he cost me by accepting a penalty to punt again from the Oklahoma State 40, up 7, with OSU having no timeouts and 40 seconds left in the game when he could have declined and OSU would have been at their own 16. Of course the second punt got housed and Oklahoma lost in OT. Easily one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen from a coach at any level with no justifiable defense.
Right, that one play overrides all his success, four times to natty championship game, multiple cinfetence titles. I get being pissed about his costing you a bet, but that should have no bearing on whether we want him as our coach.
 
We would win 1 or 2 national titles if Urban was here for 7 years. He's every inch Saban's equal in program building and game day coaching. He just doesn't have the commitment to stay any where for more than 5-7 years.
I doubt he'd stay more than four years given his track record and health issues, but Id "settle" for four yrs, an SEC title and substantial upgrade of the program.
 
I doubt he'd stay more than four years given his track record and health issues, but Id "settle" for four yrs, an SEC title and substantial upgrade of the program.

I'd take him for two. He's great at having assistant coaches who can be head coaching material. He would likely have a quality coordinator and a few top 5 classes in place to keep things rolling.

That said, it's all a pipe dream. UT would never make a move for a guy like Meyer.
 
Evidence?
Read the article...never hints that he wants the job, or any job for that matter.

I just don't get all this Meyer wanting to coach again stuff. Guy has been at the top of the game in the hardest conference to win at AND again at his "dream" school. Couple that with a current job that he has said on many occasions is the best job he's ever had and there's no way he comes back to coaching.
 
Read the article...never hints that he wants the job, or any job for that matter.

I just don't get all this Meyer wanting to coach again stuff. Guy has been at the top of the game in the hardest conference to win at AND again at his "dream" school. Couple that with a current job that he has said on many occasions is the best job he's ever had and there's no way he comes back to coaching.
Just playing devil’s advocate bc I agree with you. But he could come in and stick it to Saban who passed on hiring him and stick it to Florida as well.

I do think there’s a chance he comes back to coaching but it will be at Texas or USC. Both would be fast turnaround and would cement his legacy as one of the greatest coaches of all time if he won a national title at a third coaching stop.
 
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The minute Meyer, Stoops or any other coach lost a game here he shouldn’t, the VN gurus would be saying it’s time for a new HC.
I think in a normal year, after season is over if Fulmer felt better option out there. It happens.

Considering the last **** show, and, Covid. It aint happening.
 
We would win 1 or 2 national titles if Urban was here for 7 years. He's every inch Saban's equal in program building and game day coaching. He just doesn't have the commitment to stay any where for more than 5-7 years.

100% correct. You could really make an argument for him being better than Saban as he’s had undefeated teams at 3 different colleges. But you’re right...he’s just not willing to stay at the same school for years and years. Most guys aren’t. They’re ready for the next challenge b it’s one of the things that makes Saban so unique. And imo not necessarily in a great way. Saban will have/has had a absolutely ridiculous talent advantage in every game he ever coaches for bama. It’s so significant it’s staggering. Imagine being a nfl coaches but getting 15 first round pics every year. At some point does that not kinda become boring? I don’t get how someone could be content with that for 20 years straight. He’s a weird mo fo
 
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I believe there are two jobs Meyer would take, maybe 3. USC and Notre Dame are the two. ND is doing well enough that that won’t be open anytime soon barring a major surprise.

The other possibility to me is Texas.

I just didn’t think he’s interested in a “top 10” job. I think he’s interested in what he considers a top 5 job.

And yes, I think he would succeed at Tennessee and turn that program around. He’s that good. I don’t think he’d have UF or Ohio State type success, but I could see him winning 10 games a year there. I’m 100% certain he wouldn’t field a team that couldn’t complete a forward pass and I know for certain he’s your prototypical modern day CEO-type head coach. There would be no “I thought we done some good things” or “we don’t got no reason to be discouraged” hillbilly Bob press conferences.
Why do you assume that Tennessee's ceiling is 10 wins? We have had an undefeated national championship team. Even in really bad years we recruit in the top 20 and we can recruit in the top 5 in really good years. But you think our ceiling would be 10 wins with one of the best coaches in college football??? Get real.
 
I can forgive a lot in a coach. Freeze, Kiffin, sure, give them another shot. But someone who looked the other way on a coach who beat his wife, NO. Our program doesn’t need that. That and anyone associated with the Sandisky/Penn State debacle are Rubicon’s I am unwilling to cross.
 
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