Is RFK, Jr. done?

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#76
NashVol11 said:
Oh well if Biden said that one time, it definitely negates all of the guidance from public health officials and all of the very public discussions comparing the different vaccines and their efficacy. No way this would be a narrative pushed by bad faith idiots who ignored all of the guidance anyway
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A vaccine that was proven not to work only proved Biden and all the guidance was horseđź’©. Every time they changed the narrative it made them look more and more inept.
 
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hog88 said:
LOL

Forcing people into taking an unproven vaccination that turned out not to work as advertised absolutely caused the vax resistance we're seeing today.
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which is unfortunate because it shouldn't be lumped in with highly proven vaccines that have allowed us to eradicate illnesses.
 
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hog88 said:
It was advertised that way, the president himself said you won't get covid if you take the vaccine. Then people saw with their own eyes vaccinated people still getting Covid.
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that's not totally correct. You just have to get the COVID vaccine about 15 - 20x and then it might keep you from not getting that sick from COVID
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I understand

My fear is that we could start to see a resurgence in dangerous infections like HiB and Pneumococcus, which used to be the top 2 causes of infant meningitis and sepsis. Both had a VERY high mortality rate.

And the fault for many parents' choosing to not vaccinate lies squarely with those who forced CV19 shots on everyone. They won't admit it, because they don't want to accept how much harm they have caused or may cause in the future.
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Agreed
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I think many people would prefer the CDC and HHS to review scientific literature, disease patterns, and other factors that influence health and make recommendation for patients and HCPs to consider and discuss. People generally do not like to be FORCED to do anything, especially with regard to their own bodies or children. Removing that pressure could open many people to discussion over options they are not fully comfortable with.
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Florida is dropping vaccine mandates for school kids, presenting the issue as one of "choice." But if the "choice" is offered based on a lie and bogus anti-science claims, and in turn risks other kids, that's a problem and the illnesses and deaths of those other children, infected by kids whose parents are irresponsible enough to forego vaccination, are chargeable to those in government who promoted the "choice."
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida is dropping vaccine mandates for school kids, presenting the issue as one of "choice." But if the "choice" is offered based on a lie and bogus anti-science claims, and in turn risks other kids, that's a problem and the illnesses and deaths of those other children, infected by kids whose parents are irresponsible enough to forego vaccination, are chargeable to those in government who promoted the "choice."
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What lie or bogus anti-science claims? I have not seen those in any statements by the Florida DOH.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Prime example of why there is now vaccine hesitancy. Nice work.
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Wrong, I am not the reason, nor is science the reason. There is an entirely different reason why there is vaccine hesitancy. It's people like you and RFK fear-mongering and spewing nonsense and pretending to be an expert.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida is dropping vaccine mandates for school kids, presenting the issue as one of "choice." But if the "choice" is offered based on a lie and bogus anti-science claims, and in turn risks other kids, that's a problem and the illnesses and deaths of those other children, infected by kids whose parents are irresponsible enough to forego vaccination, are chargeable to those in government who promoted the "choice."
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Just send them over to the NVICP like those injured by taking the vaccines.
 
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TN Ribs said:
The covid vaccine saved lives. Period. Everything else is nonsense.
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which was mostly older people who yes, should've been encouraged (but not mandated) to get it because they were most at risk to die from it. I have no problem with that. But instead we told everyone they had to get it or else even most people who were not at risk of serious illness. For God's sake I had to show a COVID vaccine card to get into a concert in 2021.
 
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theFallGuy said:
which was mostly older people who yes, should've been encouraged (but not mandated) to get it because they were most at risk to die from it. I have no problem with that. But instead we told everyone they had to get it or else even most people who were not at risk of serious illness. For God's sake I had to show a COVID vaccine card to get into a concert in 2021.
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What an inconvenience! You had to pull a card out of your wallet during a public health emergency. Poor guy.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida is dropping vaccine mandates for school kids, presenting the issue as one of "choice." But if the "choice" is offered based on a lie and bogus anti-science claims, and in turn risks other kids, that's a problem and the illnesses and deaths of those other children, infected by kids whose parents are irresponsible enough to forego vaccination, are chargeable to those in government who promoted the "choice."
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If you have your kids vaccinated why worry?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida is dropping vaccine mandates for school kids, presenting the issue as one of "choice." But if the "choice" is offered based on a lie and bogus anti-science claims, and in turn risks other kids, that's a problem and the illnesses and deaths of those other children, infected by kids whose parents are irresponsible enough to forego vaccination, are chargeable to those in government who promoted the "choice."
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Let's revisit if/when these chickens (pox) come home to roost.

There is choice available now and you were never aware of it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Not every kid can get vaccinated and "why worry" about bringing back nearly-eradicated serious diseases is a dumb question
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I'm pretty dang sure that if FL did away with the mandatory vaccines for attending school 85% or more parents would still have their kids vaccinated.

Why do y'all always go Chicken Little when people are given choices.
 
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