Is it wrong for us to wait until the last moment to poach another team's QB?

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Brave Volunteer said:
Yeah I'm sure other programs and their fans will consider that.
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Freely entering the portal is entirely different than player representatives actively shopping their player during the season. It's you that doesn't understand it with your BS claims concerning hypocrisy. You try to create negative spin on the Vols at every opportunity
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Freely entering the portal is entirely different than player representatives actively shopping their player during the season. It's you that doesn't understand it with your BS claims concerning hypocrisy. You try to create negative spin on the Vols at every opportunity
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Yes I'm sure all of these players are "freely" entering the portal with no tampering whatsoever. We are squeaky clean in this whole process.
 
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Get behind players that desire to play fo UT,to hell with the ones that dont,Support our current qbs, they were brought here to play, lets play,Qb didn't win games last yr,defense and running game did
 
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DaddyChad said:
The player decided to hit the transfer portal not the other way around.

Wrong or not, Heupel’s job is to put a winning team on the field. Not fair to the fans or the team to not try to get someone. A bad season gets him far more issues than getting someone else’s qb.
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Theoretically you are absolutely right. However, the nuance is in how it makes the program look. If we poach someone, then there is the potential for negative press for the team and that will trickle down to recruits. I'm not sure that's the reputation we need right now
 
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Can you believe how quiet it has gotten? Talk about poaching! We’re slithering through the grass about to pounce on a big one. But it won’t happen until the last possible day! I think the deal is done and everybody is waiting around trying to be cool! Don’t want to unnecessarily hurt anybody’s feelings. I’ll stand by that theory until something proves me wrong! I think the deal is done and we’re going to be happy!
 
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volsack said:
Theoretically you are absolutely right. However, the nuance is in how it makes the program look. If we poach someone, then there is the potential for negative press for the team and that will trickle down to recruits. I'm not sure that's the reputation we need right now
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How can people be so damn off? Recruits want to win
 
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madbamahater said:
Only Alabama and a few others will accuse the Vols and Heupel of poaching and how wrong it is, if they do. Anything Alabama is against, we should be for. Anything Alabama is for, we should be against. Who cares what they think? Of course, they and Saban are pretending to be on Tennessee's side over the Nico thing. Don't believe them, they are only doing so because they know it hurts Tennessee. They will be using the Nico situation negatively in recruiting against Tennessee while at the same time publicly acting like they support Heupel.

If they or anyone have a chance to bring in a top QB at any time, they'd do it (and they should), but if the Vols do it there will be a full court press on how wrong and unethical the move would be from Heupel. They're good with pretending to support Heupel as long as it gives them the advantage. Just like when Saban thought Jones, Dooley and Cornbread were perfect coaches for Tennessee. Of course he did, because he beat the **** out of them. Again, whatever they say/think just do opposite.
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Amen. And I extent this sentiment to the rest of the SEC as well. F-those tools.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Yes I'm sure all of these players are "freely" entering the portal with no tampering whatsoever. We are squeaky clean in this whole process.
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I'm not saying we are or aren't squeaky clean. You're simply making claims on a broad generalization of the process. As a matter of fact, many of the players enter the portal because they want to move into a starting role for another team instead of sitting the bench for their current team
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I'm not saying we are or aren't squeaky clean. You're simply making claims on a broad generalization of the process. As a matter of fact, many of the players enter the portal because they want to move into a starting role for another team instead of sitting the bench for their current team
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If we take Altmyer from Illinois, he's QB1 there. He's leaving for ???? better exposure, like being a starter in the B1G isn't good exposure? better coaching, for one year?

We'd be offering better money, primarily.

We're left hating a player who leaves because we didn't meet his money demands then getting a player who almost certainly left Illinois because they didn't match the money we offered.

It's definitely "part of the same hypocrisy."
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If we take Altmyer from Illinois, he's QB1 there. He's leaving for ???? better exposure, like being a starter in the B1G isn't good exposure? better coaching, for one year?

We'd be offering better money, primarily.

We're left hating a player who leaves because we didn't meet his money demands then getting a player who almost certainly left Illinois because they didn't match the money we offered.

It's definitely "part of the same hypocrisy."
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Has he declared for the portal yet? If not, you would be correct.
 
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vavolfan6 said:
Just wondering. I know we were left out to dry in an unfortunate situation for ourselves. But if we wait until the last moment to poach another team's QB, than that team won't have any time left in the transfer window to convince another's team's QB to enter the transfer portal.

This whole situation is about to turn into a gane of hot potato with a ticking time bomb. One team is going to be left with having their QB taken at the last moment with no viable option to replace them.
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We do exactly what everyone else is doing. Get the best players we can get.
 
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EZE said:
I dislike it as much as everyone else. But under these rules, that is how you have to roll. And if we don’t play by the current rules? We will get buried.

Damn straight we take a top-shelf QB if we can get one.
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This
 
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To Quote Smokey: "It's a dog-eat-dog world out there!"

It may very well be that we end up with a QB swap with UCLA or we get ND's odd man out.
 
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vavolfan6 said:
Just wondering. I know we were left out to dry in an unfortunate situation for ourselves. But if we wait until the last moment to poach another team's QB, than that team won't have any time left in the transfer window to convince another's team's QB to enter the transfer portal.

This whole situation is about to turn into a gane of hot potato with a ticking time bomb. One team is going to be left with having their QB taken at the last moment with no viable option to replace them.
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Money makes all of these scenarios a normal route of decision making. It was not normal before NIL, but anything is legal now (in the wild, Wild West) of college football.
 
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Swapping with UCLA for qb's is a trade and we probably come out on top because of what has beentold about "big nic".Little letters were meant.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
The irony of all of this is everyone is mad at Nico for leaving our program to try and get more money. Yet that's exactly what we're wanting another QB to do to their current team to come play for us. To quote Michael Corleone in The Godfather Part 2, "we're both part of the same hypocrisy".
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Or “I know it was you Nico. You broke my heart”!
 
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Understand that if the player IS in the portal now later whenever the deal is made public it matters not when the deal was made. Ain’t no last minute shat when the player has announced his intention by entering portal It might seem there was no interest when actually the player made a deal the first day. We just gotta get used to not being spoon fed every step on the way I think things are going on that we have no clue about and that’s the way it should be!
 
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