IRS admits to targeting Conservative groups

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The co-inky-dinks keep coming - looks like those "2 rogue agents" from Cincinnati are also seemed to have had a little problem with emails - as in their emails are "missing".

Amazing how no one seems to care
 
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volinbham said:
The co-inky-dinks keep coming - looks like those "2 rogue agents" from Cincinnati are also seemed to have had a little problem with emails - as in their emails are "missing".

Amazing how no one seems to care
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My initial reaction was "un... freaking... believable". But after letting reality set in, and thinking about everything else that has gone "missing", it is absolutely believable.
 
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KB5252 said:
Drag your feet long enough and the people lose interest. There is a very good reason IRS officials are destroying evidence and being obstructive. We will likely never know how far the rabbit hole goes.
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That rabbit hole started & ends in the seat of the Oval Office of Barrack Obama when it's all said & done.
 
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Grand Vol said:
At what point do you actually stop and think "perhaps I'm wrong about all this and there is a fairly large conspiracy going on to obstruct the truth from coming out?"
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At what point while you were typing this did you stop to think "why am I bothering"? :)
 
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Grand Vol said:
At what point do you actually stop and think "perhaps I'm wrong about all this and there is a fairly large conspiracy going on to obstruct the truth from coming out?"
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The notion that government employees would be smart enough and organized enough to pull that off is ludicrous. That they'd do it and keep their mouths shut is so unlikely as to be beyond human comprehension.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That they'd do it and keep their mouths shut is so unlikely as to be beyond human comprehension.
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C'mon, man. This isn't Clinton and Lewinsky (who opened her mouth more ways than one). This is Mr. Transperancy. Maybe an investigator can find physical evidence on Lois Lerner's blue screen.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The notion that government employees would be smart enough and organized enough to pull that off is ludicrous. That they'd do it and keep their mouths shut is so unlikely as to be beyond human comprehension.
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It's been working for them this long why stop now w/what's working by lying & stonewalling?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The notion that government employees would be smart enough and organized enough to pull that off is ludicrous. That they'd do it and keep their mouths shut is so unlikely as to be beyond human comprehension.
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If they are aided and assisted by the media and the Justice Department not ludicrous at all.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The notion that government employees would be smart enough and organized enough to pull that off is ludicrous. That they'd do it and keep their mouths shut is so unlikely as to be beyond human comprehension.
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Remember, these are some of the same government employees (or at least part of the same administration) that you have absolute faith in when it comes to crafting healthcare legislation.
 
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volinbham said:
At what point while you were typing this did you stop to think "why am I bothering"? :)
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Around the same time I read this:

lawgator1 said:
The notion that government employees would be smart enough and organized enough to pull that off is ludicrous. That they'd do it and keep their mouths shut is so unlikely as to be beyond human comprehension.
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You really do have your head up your fourth point of contact concerning this matter.

Perhaps you should take VB's advice yourself. The situation has become indefensible.
 
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You guys are the ones insisting that, not only was there an organized and systemic conservative witch hunt, but that there is now an organized and systemic cover up going on. And that the hundreds who would have to have been a part of one or the other are all staying mum. And that it is so well done that at this point your ONLY evidence of it is that there is no evidence.

Take the tin foil hats off and think about that for a moment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You guys are the ones insisting that, not only was there an organized and systemic conservative witch hunt, but that there is now an organized and systemic cover up going on. And that the hundreds who would have to have been a part of one or the other are all staying mum. And that it is so well done that at this point your ONLY evidence of it is that there is no evidence.

Take the tin foil hats off and think about that for a moment.
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So it takes hundreds of people to eliminate computer records? Seriously? A 16 year old could do it in about a half an hour.

So I repeat, when are you going to pop your head out of your ass and realize there is and continues to be a cover up going on? You're a lawyer, you should well know when a defense is trying to suppress evidence.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You guys are the ones insisting that, not only was there an organized and systemic conservative witch hunt, but that there is now an organized and systemic cover up going on. And that the hundreds who would have to have been a part of one or the other are all staying mum. And that it is so well done that at this point your ONLY evidence of it is that there is no evidence.

Take the tin foil hats off and think about that for a moment.
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Just curious... what's your explanation for all the missing emails from various source points that have "failed" and "gone missing"?

Do you honestly think this is pure coincidence and accidental?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Just curious... what's your explanation for all the missing emails from various source points that have "failed" and "gone missing"?

Do you honestly think this is pure coincidence and accidental?
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It's a huge organization. My firm has nine people in it and we've got one office full of decrepit computer equipment. Not only do I think it's possible that over 5 years there have been all sorts of break downs and losses, I think it's highly likely.

They should have had all emails go through a server and saved. I agree. But I can easily believe it's buffoonery not shenanigans.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's a huge organization. My firm has nine people in it and we've got one office full of decrepit computer equipment. Not only do I think it's possible that over 5 years there have been all sorts of break downs and losses, I think it's highly likely.

They should have had all emails go through a server and saved. I agree. But I can easily believe it's buffoonery not shenanigans.
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And you also think it's "highly likely" there were no shenanigans given that these "failures" occurred within days/weeks of notification that there would be an investigation?

As an attorney (i.e. someone who is supposed to look beyond the obvious) I have a hard time believing that you don't find this disconcerting.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's a huge organization. My firm has nine people in it and we've got one office full of decrepit computer equipment. Not only do I think it's possible that over 5 years there have been all sorts of break downs and losses, I think it's highly likely.

They should have had all emails go through a server and saved. I agree. But I can easily believe it's buffoonery not shenanigans.
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It may be possible.

But how likely is it all the computers surrounding one particular investigation suddenly fault? Seriously, take off your idiot glasses for a moment and look at the facts.

"Lois Lerhner's computer broke down and the emails couldn't be recovered."

"Well, they might have been recoverable, but we recycled the hard drive."

"The emails might have been on a government server somewhere, but they're really, really, really hard to track down."

"They might have been on her Blackberry, but that was wiped too. When? Oh, after the investigation started."

"Yeah, we have a few more computers break. And coincidentally those that were in close proximity to the investigation at hand. Sorry guys, nothing to see here."

You are not this biased or dumb. At least I hope not.
 
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