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trout-vol said:
So you think America is losing this war?
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"Losing" is subjective.

Militarily? No. Will Iran military defeat the US military? No.

Will Trump get what he wants from Iran in a reasonable timeframe? Also no. At some point I think pressure from within and from other countries will have Trump cave in to some of Iran's demands. And then he will make out like it's the greatest deal in the history of the world. Iran doesn't need their military to "win the war". They only have to cause enough worldwide pain for Trump to give up.

Will Trump's war with Iran be good in the longterm? Probably not.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
They've (DOD) already released a report. 20 billion give or take. I saw it early..
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This includes spent munitions which comprises of about 70 percent of cost here.

Is it a waste? Yes.

I would have just kept assassinating leader after leader and stayed out of the straight and I would have done it covertly.

Their navy is gone and they are in compliment chaos but like Afghan (not in the ME but crazy) you cannot desl with radicals so they just keep coming.

The only way to solve this is to have China in the talks and to control them. Without China, Iran is gone in 5 minutes.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
The House has now passed a war powers limiting act also the Senate apparently did one in May. No combined act yet and there isn’t a veto proof majority.

www.foxnews.com

Trump suffers rare House defeat as bipartisan vote moves to withdraw troops from Iran conflict

The House voted to curb Trump's war powers in Iran after Democrats and several Republicans bucked the president in a rare bipartisan rebuke of his policy.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Its cover for GOP members who need to distance themselves from Trump in October.
 
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BeardedVol said:
www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Trump confirms he called Netanyahu 'crazy,' as he says Israel is complicating peace talks with Iran

But even as the U.S. president acknowledged the tensions, he insisted that his relationship with Netanyahu was solid and they connected, in part, because they're both “wartime” leaders.
www.nbcphiladelphia.com www.nbcphiladelphia.com

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Well, in fairness, this was a totally unpredictable move by the Iranians.

/blue font

And I'm sure Trump will soon explain that he was warned about it by his team and its not their fault he has so badly underestimated Iran.

/blue font again
 
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lawgator1 said:
It’s cover for GOP members who need to distance themselves from Trump in October.
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No it’s actually a political play for Dems to get GOP on the record sanctioning a very unpopular war. Only five crossed over and a couple are gone after this term anyway. Massie for example. It can be both but it’s largely Dem campaign fodder
 
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trout-vol said:
Lol, the reason we extend the cease fire is to show good faith. We've decimated them and could do way if we wanted to. Get your tds meds and go back to sleep.
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We can't stop them from holding the strait without ground troops

We are terrified of them using proxies to take Bab al‑Mandeb Strait.

Combined that would lock the world out 35-40% of the oil.


Drones, speed boats, and mines. The days of just being able to blow people out of the water are over. See Ukraine and Russia.

This is why you don't half ass war. Go all in with troops and bombs or don't go in at all.

The belief we could usher in regime change with bombs was short sighted and arrogant
 
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